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Postby ChristianKitsune » Mon Sep 11, 2006 2:34 pm

are they negative or positive views, UCP? I mean do they praise the vampires at all?
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Postby Tommy » Mon Sep 11, 2006 3:18 pm

Wingzero22 wrote:93 eps so far. Well, that rules out watching Bleach, because of my 60 ep rule.


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Postby jon_jinn » Mon Sep 11, 2006 4:13 pm

Tom Dincht wrote:That would deprive you of 5 or so fantastic anime.


i know. there goes hunter x hunter, yu yu hakusho, BLEACH, hajime no ippo, and prince of tennis. not to mention serveral other animes that are practically MUST-sees. :drool:
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Postby Roy Mustang » Mon Sep 11, 2006 4:45 pm

Tom Dincht wrote:That would deprive you of 5 or so fantastic anime.


I don't care. If anything has to take that long to tell a story is too slow IMO. Even if they are fantastic, I will not watch them.

I'm not going to take three to five years just to buy anime dvds of one show.

As for hunter x hunter and yu yu hakusho, I watch about a good 30 eps and it wasn't for me. It maybe fantastic to some, but those two animes were not something that I cared for.


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Postby rocklobster » Mon Sep 11, 2006 5:02 pm

Actually, sometimes a long anime can be a good thing. Take it from me, I'm an Inuyasha fan. What I like best about Inuyasha is that I've watched many characters change dramatically. For example, Shippo used to be so cowardly, but now he seems a little more courageous.
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Postby Radical Dreamer » Mon Sep 11, 2006 5:06 pm

Eh, sometimes a long series can be ok (this is coming from a big Ruroken fan XD), but a lot of times, I prefer the short or normal-sized series. I'll watch a series if it's over 60 eps, especially if it's on TV, but longer series always run the risk of dragging on and on. And on. XD *coughdbcoughzandinucoughyashacoughcough*
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Postby uc pseudonym » Tue Sep 12, 2006 6:24 pm

To be honest, I strongly favor long stories over short ones. It is definitely possible to be profound with a short story, but at the same time there are things that should be said that should not or cannot be put into an extremely short space. When the theme is epic, I approve of as many episodes as necessary.

That having been said, all of Bleach so far could fit into half as many episodes (at least) if they had tighter directing. I don't like (though I accept) that they are trying to make the storyline last as long as possible. But that is why it isn't worth watching again.

ChristianRonin wrote:are they negative or positive views, UCP? I mean do they praise the vampires at all?

Don't quote me on this. However, I recall that the Protestant nations generally have vampires living as a significant portion of their populations, thus they are accepted as normal people. "Racial" tensions are still high, obviously, but it isn't the same as the Catholic nations where vampires are mostly underground.
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Postby mitsuki lover » Tue Sep 12, 2006 6:46 pm

From what I looked up of Trinity Blood before the pilot aired it seems that the so called Vampires are some type of alien that just look and act like the classic vampire of folklore.However there seems to be a vast difference in that in classic folklore vampires can only reproduce by feeding off a victim,or as Buffy once said:
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Postby desperado » Wed Sep 13, 2006 4:35 am

I kinda like how the show has a "your different then me but ill accept you for that" later on. Anyone else feel that [spoiler] the reason for albel wanting to kill cain is not explained clearly at all? Maybe I accidently skipped a part though [/spoiler] I liked the series and it definetly leaves a huge opening for a sequel.
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Postby Seppuku » Wed Sep 13, 2006 10:57 am

^-^ yay the bleach dub didnt suck, the only voice that i didnt like was rukia's, i dunno why but it just didnt click with me. ^^;; i still have yet to see the tb dub
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Postby mitsuki lover » Wed Sep 13, 2006 11:34 am

Maybe you don't like Michelle Ruff who does Rukia's voice.Michelle Ruff is why I like Rukia.
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Postby rocklobster » Wed Sep 13, 2006 4:04 pm

I think Johnny Yong Bosch can pull off being a punk. Don't forget, he played Kaneda in Akira. Kaneda was definitely a punk.
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Postby uc pseudonym » Wed Sep 13, 2006 6:19 pm

mitsuki lover wrote:From what I looked up of Trinity Blood before the pilot aired it seems that the so called Vampires are some type of alien that just look and act like the classic vampire of folklore.However there seems to be a vast difference in that in classic folklore vampires can only reproduce by feeding off a victim,or as Buffy once said:
"It's one big sucky thingie."

Well, I basically can't respond to that without spoilers...
[spoiler=vampires]The vampires aren't the mythological creatures, yes. They're actually humans infected with a virus that gives them enhanced strength and speed but simultaneously destroys their red blood cells at a steady rate. Thus they need to drink blood in order to stave off the virus. For the moment we will ignore the fact that physically drinking blood would only make it pass through the digestive system and likely never come into contact with the virus.[/spoiler]
And then there are some real spoilers about Abel and company:
[spoiler=Crusniks]They are actually humans modified with nano-technology, possibly to be more durable than standard people (they live longer than humans or vampires) or likely to combat vampires. Unlike vampires, feeding is not a necessity.[/spoiler]
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Postby Ichigo_89 » Wed Sep 13, 2006 8:45 pm

Trinity Blood had some animation that's better than most animes series these days, but I can't say I was captivated by the story or characters at all. Still, I'll give this one a couple more eps before I dismiss it.

Bleach, ah wow. This is just a plain good anime adaption. In some ways, better than the manga! But ya, luv this show
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Postby rurouninaruto » Thu Sep 14, 2006 10:55 am

It was pretty stupid of me to judge to dubs for Bleach from a 30 second commercial. I really liked the dubs. At first, as someone else pointed out, I thought JYB wouldn't have enough attitude in his voice to fit Ichigo, but I was throughly convinced otherwise after I saw the first episode. In a way I kinda felt like Vash was going to appear on the screen at times. Ichigo, in my opinion sounded just like a tougher version of Vash.

I also loved Rukia's voice. I am definatley looking foward to future episodes! ^^
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Postby Mr. SmartyPants » Thu Sep 14, 2006 11:08 am

mitsuki lover wrote:Maybe you don't like Michelle Ruff who does Rukia's voice.Michelle Ruff is why I like Rukia.

Dude. Just because I don't (or anybody) like Rukia's voice doesn't mean I don't like Michelle Ruff. I'm sure Michelle Ruff would be more suited for a different role.
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Postby mitsuki lover » Thu Sep 14, 2006 11:57 am

No,her voice fits Rukia perfectly.

I still think though that Bleach should have been aired first and then Trinity Blood since Trinity Blood appears more violent in nature.
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Postby uc pseudonym » Thu Sep 14, 2006 6:05 pm

New episodes two nights from now, as I'm sure you all know. I probably won't watch either, as I don't like the second episode of Bleach and don't particularly want to see this one in Trinity Blood, either.

Ichigo_89 wrote:Trinity Blood had some animation that's better than most animes series these days, but I can't say I was captivated by the story or characters at all. Still, I'll give this one a couple more eps before I dismiss it.

Give it until episode 4 or so. I'm not so sure episodes two and three (though not necessarily bad episodes) are properly representative of the series.

mitsuki lover wrote:No,her voice fits Rukia perfectly.

I am going to step in and request that this subject be ended now. In my opinion, it can only become mindless butting of heads or absurdly nitpicking character/voice analysis. And I think the world will be a more beautiful place without more of that.
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Postby Chosen Raven » Thu Sep 14, 2006 7:46 pm

Trinity Blood: I fully expected to hate this. I thought it was just going to be(from my point of view) another dull, serious anime like Witch Hunter Robin and Ghost in the Shell. I was pleasantly suprised. Abel is a pretty cool character. Sort of like Vash without the crybabyness and pacifism(thank God). I'm hoping Christianity(or at least Catholicism since we Protestents rarely get any attention in anime....yes, I know there are exceptions) will continue to be portrayed in a good light. It's kinda cool that the main character is a Christian and a super vampire(or Crusnik[sp?]). I've seen vampire hunters in anime that are human, dampir, and vampire, but I've never seen a vampire that feeds off other vampires. Anyway, it was a pretty cool first episode. I guess I'll post my thoughts on Bleach later. So tired....
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Postby mitsuki lover » Sun Sep 17, 2006 1:30 pm

Father Abel appears to be a bit naive at times.Like yesterday when he thought the
vampire really was a nun and trusted her looks instead of looking deeper.

As to Bleach,well once I make up my mind on a character I can be rather stubborn so I won't be changing my mind about Rukia in any time.
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Postby RedMage » Sun Sep 17, 2006 1:32 pm

Abel is such a Vash ripoff it's not even funny. Trinity Blood appears to be a cross (pun!) of Hellsing and Trigun.
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Postby dyzzispell » Sun Sep 17, 2006 4:02 pm

Watched about 10 minutes of Trinity Blood last night. The TVMA rating sorta chased me away, too. Either way, in the 10 minutes I watched, I wasn't crazy about it. Seemed a little spooky.
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Postby Radical Dreamer » Sun Sep 17, 2006 6:35 pm

RedMage wrote:Abel is such a Vash ripoff it's not even funny. Trinity Blood appears to be a cross (pun!) of Hellsing and Trigun.


I thought we had established that earlier? XD

Anyways, I totally forgot to watch both shows last night, so I haven't got much to say here. I guess I got so out-of-the-habit of watching AS, that it barely crosses my mind anymore. XD; Well, there's always next week!
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Postby RedMage » Sun Sep 17, 2006 7:01 pm

Radical Dreamer wrote:I thought we had established that earlier? XD


I didn't watch TB the first week so I couldn't judge firsthand.
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Postby Doubleshadow » Sun Sep 17, 2006 7:14 pm

I think this anime hits my absolute limit of gore tolerance. I'm a little slow I must admit to not have realized a vampire anime on adult swim was going to be this bloody. If I didn't love everything else, I probably couldn't stomach it. Speaking of things I love, did anyone else catch this line?

"Nothing! We're, uh, practicing for the Easter Pageant!"

That has to be the best line I have ever heard in anything. That was truly inspired, pricelessness defined. In my opinion anyway.
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Postby Radical Dreamer » Sun Sep 17, 2006 7:19 pm

RedMage wrote:I didn't watch TB the first week so I couldn't judge firsthand.


No, I mean earlier on in the thread. But nevermind, we're deviating from the main topic. XD;
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Postby RedMage » Sun Sep 17, 2006 7:25 pm

[quote="Radical Dreamer"]No, I mean earlier on in the thread. But nevermind, we're deviating from the main topic. XD]

No, I know what you meant, I'm just adding my agreement with the previously reached conclusion now that I'm in a position to do so.
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Postby ChristianKitsune » Sun Sep 17, 2006 10:48 pm

Doubleshadow wrote:I think this anime hits my absolute limit of gore tolerance. I'm a little slow I must admit to not have realized a vampire anime on adult swim was going to be this bloody. If I didn't love everything else, I probably couldn't stomach it. Speaking of things I love, did anyone else catch this line?

"Nothing! We're, uh, practicing for the Easter Pageant!"

That has to be the best line I have ever heard in anything. That was truly inspired, pricelessness defined. In my opinion anyway.


The way I look at it is that it's just red ink....and laugh as the limbs go flying...

if it were real I would run for the nearest trash can...^^;



XD YESSSSSS!!! and then the Father Tres kinda explodes.... XDDD
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Postby rocklobster » Mon Sep 18, 2006 4:51 am

I actually thought that little girl was cute.
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Postby samuraidragon » Mon Sep 18, 2006 6:38 am

i agree with what mr. smarty pants said earlier in the thread. i just don''t think the english voices convey the same emotion as they do in japanese. i almost cried when i heard rukia's opening line. just go to you tube and watch them side by side. i'm so glad they kept the original opening though, i was going to be mad if they didn't.
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