Otakus dissed on g4!

my last fm profile! · Postby **rocklobster** » Sat Jul 22, 2006 4:39 am

http://animenewsnetwork.com/article.php?id=9220
And to think we otakus once supported that network!

Postby **TrigunX89** » Sat Jul 22, 2006 4:49 am

Meh, I lost my love for G4 a long time ago.

Postby **KBMaster** » Sat Jul 22, 2006 5:03 am

Wow, that's pretty mean. I've never watched the show, but my sister said they don't usually go and attack people like that. I've never been "scared" by a so-called "hardcore" fan. I thought the defending party did a pretty good job at handling it, though.

Postby **RedMage** » Sat Jul 22, 2006 9:44 am

G4 is a pale shadow of what it once was. The best days were directly after the merger with TechTV, when they were still calling it "G4 TechTV," in fact.

Postby **Seppuku** » Sat Jul 22, 2006 9:52 am

that wasnt that bad

my last fm profile! · Postby **rocklobster** » Sat Jul 22, 2006 9:55 am

What I really hated was when they got on the cosplayer's case. I have a lot of respect for good cosplayers because it takes a lot of hard work to make those.

Postby **Radical Dreamer** » Sat Jul 22, 2006 10:59 am

You know, the fact that that channel used to air (or still does air?) anime just confuses me. What are they trying to do, lose viewers? They lost me after they merged with Tech TV. G4 used to be the most awesome channel, and now it's awful. After the merge with Tech TV, I noticed more sexual content, more language, some of my favorite show hosts were replaced by Tech TV's hosts...That channel's just gone straight downhill ever since the merge. And aren't a lot of gamers anime fans, too? I don't understand the logic in their broadcast of that interview...Are they really trying to shake viewers? Gah, whatever. XD

Postby **Needle Noggin** » Sat Jul 22, 2006 11:06 am

Being an Otaku is not a good thing. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Otaku

Postby **uc pseudonym** » Sat Jul 22, 2006 12:34 pm

The term is typically used by Americans in a more casual sense, as stated in the second paragraph of the Wikipedia article.

Personally, I didn't think the interview was really that mean-spirited (though I didn't like the use of colors to designate speakers - why not just names). Look at the second to last paragraph, where they make a summary statement. That strikes me as fairly reasonable. To be honest, I think the people that fall under the most obsessive part of the "otaku" umbrella do need to reconsider their priorities.

Postby **RedMage** » Sat Jul 22, 2006 12:39 pm

Radical Dreamer wrote:You know, the fact that that channel used to air (or still does air?) anime just confuses me.

They dropped their anime block months ago.

They lost me after they merged with Tech TV. G4 used to be the most awesome channel, and now it's awful.

I don't think they ran anime before the merge with TechTV. Anime Unleashed as a TechTV show.

After the merge with Tech TV, I noticed more sexual content, more language, some of my favorite show hosts were replaced by Tech TV's hosts...

Actually, Adam Sessler and Morgan Webb (X-Play) are pretty much the only TechTV people left as far as I can tell. A lot of old G4 people have fallen by the wayside as well (I've always gotten the impression G4 is ruthless about their personnel changes), but if anything G4 hosts pushed out the TechTV ones. Remember G4 bought TechTV, not the other way around.

Postby **Myoti** » Sat Jul 22, 2006 2:01 pm

Um, really, that wasn't too bad. I do have to go with uc on this, true "superfans" probably do need a wake-up call.

Postby **Seppuku** » Sat Jul 22, 2006 11:41 pm

uc pseudonym wrote:Personally, I didn't think the interview was really that mean-spirited.

i agree it didnt strike me as offensive really. and on the defensive side of the conversation they made good points with relating it to sport fanatics and other hobbies, perhaps that can actually convince people that its really not all that strange.

Postby **mitsuki lover** » Sun Jul 23, 2006 12:29 pm

The interview wasn't that bad really they were just giving their views on normal anime fans vs. the few crazy superfans that are out there.The only place where
they said anime sucks was at the beginning but that was more of a question than a statment,"Does anime suck?"
Overall the questions were fair and they allowed the interviewees enough time to answer each one.
As far as AU goes it may be back.It wasn't cancelled just put on hiatus so it might still be back.

Postby **Hitokiri** » Sun Jul 23, 2006 1:42 pm

Haha that was good. I might get stoned for this but I really dislike intense anime fans that argue and whine over such petty things. And I am sorry but I would rather die then appear anywhere in a outfit she was wearing. I would rather be brutally murdered then cosplay. Cosplayers just annoy me. I understand how much time and resources are spent into it but it's just....seems like a waste of time. Maybe I am tired of all the Inuyasha's and Sesshama-whatever's girls that cosplay in my Japanese class.

It's one thing to be a fan but it's another thing to write pairing fan fics, dress up cosplay parties, and center your entire life around anime.

Postby **mitsuki lover** » Mon Jul 24, 2006 1:53 pm

Agree there is such a thing as overdoing it.Remember Trekkies the documentary they made about people who center their lives around Star Trek..and we probably thought THAT was bad!

Postby **Roy Mustang** » Mon Jul 24, 2006 2:11 pm

The people that would think this interview was dissed anime would be superfans.

As for the cosplay. I cosplay, but I only cosplay at a con only. Its just a fun thing to do a few times a year, but when someone makes it into their way of life, as if you get mad over someone having costume thats just looks like yours or if you didn't win an award, then I see a problem.

But any hobby, has superfans.

I have more hobbies then just anime.

One is going to high school football games with my dad and watch college football with my family.

The other hobby that I have is watching trains, I will not put these hobbies first before my family or work.

I know that some will. You just have to look at as, there are going to some superfans and we just going to get use to that.

Wingzero22

Postby **CookinLikeSanji** » Mon Jul 24, 2006 2:11 pm

Ah yeah I saw that...

The girl who cosplayed and was interviewed on there was actually a regular from a cosplay message board that I regularly visit. She's recieved a lot of support against G4 ever since the incident.

I've honestly lost all respect for G4...What little of it I had left I should say.

Just my 2 cents on the whole thing.

Postby **Nightshade X** » Mon Jul 24, 2006 2:55 pm

When they took "Judgment Day" and "The Screensavers" off of G4, that's about the time where I almost completely lost interest (Cinematech is the only thing keeping me there, but barely). As much as I loved the channel, it's clearly seen its better days. Now, it's just another "guy's channel"... and that's what I loathe about it the most.

The reason I loved G4 is because it was so different from all the others... sure, it was a guy's channel, but it was different and I liked it. Now... it's just like all the others... almost completely based on sex and crude humor (Attack of the Show is a clear example of this, as well as the Midnight Spank segment.).

So... from the bottom of my heart... G4 can go eat poop, for all I care. XP

Postby **ChristianKitsune** » Mon Jul 24, 2006 4:03 pm

wow..just wow...

Okie I am with UC on this one... I love anime as much as probably a lot of people on this board, and I am Considering cosplaying (casually) for my anime con coming up in august (maybe a haibane Renmei or something because they are actually SORT of normal and all I need is a halo)

but wow... people need to redirect their lives to something more healthy!

I admit when I first became a fan I would think Japan was totallly awesome! I like wanted to move there and everything. Now, I am like "It's another country with an art style that I like." But I don't think I am so obsessed with anime as I used to be.

I think my love for it lies in the art (and not the icky part of the art either) I love the style, but I am also trying to create my own substyle.

I would never appear on TV in a getup like that girl did. OMGOSH that was freaky scary. I mean It looks really good..but maybe TOO good?

I agree with the G4 people on maybe that RABID anime fans DO scare the casual fans away. I mean my sis is a casual anime fan, maybe I am a bit more hardcore...but I have realized that if I talk so much about ANime and how awesome it is, I confuse her and she loses interest REALLY fast.

so.. I don't appreciate G4 dissing the anime fans, andI don't like this channel for what it has become...

but are they totally wrong?

Postby **Myoti** » Mon Jul 24, 2006 7:05 pm

I'd like to cosplay, but yes, as said, those that center stuff like that around their lives need to check out their priorities.

I go with Nightshade X about G4. Cinematech is the only thing that really interested me (well, that and Icons was pretty interesting). Attack of the Show should... burn. Along with the Man Show.

Smoker's view of G4 now:

"Tell them to go eat crap!"

(I had to quote it after what Nightshade X said. xD )

Postby **CookinLikeSanji** » Mon Jul 24, 2006 7:22 pm

Well, just so you guys know, a lot of people make a living out of cosplay (Making costume/prop/wig/etc. comissions) or it's simply a large part of their lives and for a lot of their work, devotion to the subject is required a lot of the time. But I know there are certainly some who are overly obsessive (I've met plenty) but don't think that most of the cosplay community is full of rampart "I live, eat and breath Otaku-ism" fanatics. It's a small portion.

Postby **mitsuki lover** » Tue Jul 25, 2006 1:26 pm

I don't think they were aiming their comments at the majority of cosplayers or anime fans just the ones that go totally overboard.I mean that one guy said something about the type of football fan who gets up for the game by painting himself all over and stuff like that.

Postby **Chii** » Tue Jul 25, 2006 1:58 pm

Well, that didn't seem to offend me since i'm a "casual anime fan" actually really casual...but I didn't believe G4 "ATTACK OF THE SHOW" was attacking anyone. I watch that show and it's not like that, when they showed up at the Comic Con they took 3 really good cosplayers of non-anime and complimented and said that those were realy good outfits.

1. there are some extreme fans, but isn't that true for just about anything?
2. I don't believe other anime fans feel, "overwhelmed"

Postby **creed4** » Tue Jul 25, 2006 2:13 pm

I never cared for attack of the Show too Crude. I miss TechTV

Postby **Roy Mustang** » Tue Jul 25, 2006 2:38 pm

CookinLikeSanji wrote:Well, just so you guys know, a lot of people make a living out of cosplay (Making costume/prop/wig/etc. comissions) or it's simply a large part of their lives and for a lot of their work, devotion to the subject is required a lot of the time.

I forgot to say something about that. That part is good and even I have bought a costume from a place that two ladies make cosplay comissions and they have or one of them was an art major in college.

What my point is, fans that just eat, sleep and breath anime 24 hours a day.

Its good to take a hobby and make it into a job, if you can. I feel that if you gift to make costumes and can make money from it, then that is great way make a living. That's something that I like do with one of my hobbies. And yes, we do look on the good side and bad side of it as with our hobbies.

Wingzero22

Postby **oro!** » Tue Jul 25, 2006 6:18 pm

I don't like G4 nymore either b/c of the same reasons as most of you, but I didn't really feel that it was such a big problem....

Obsession over anything is NOT good, especially for a Christian like myself. If I find that there is something that has more importance than following Jesus, then there is some serious talking to God and changing I have to do.

But dressing up a couple of times a year is not obsession, just fun.

Postby **WrestlingOtaku** » Tue Jul 25, 2006 6:55 pm

That football fan comment hurt. I would be one of the guys who painted themselves and do that kind of thing. Unfortunately, I'm a little shy about taking my shirt off. (Darn you beer belly!!!) Although I could do something like the Cincinatti Bengal's Storm Trooper. Except I couldn't fit in the suit. (Read previous quotes for reaction.)

Anyways, getting back on track. I do believe that doing something 24 hours a day is a harmfull, but showing off how much you like something once in a while isn't. That's why people cosplay and paint themselves. They want to show off how much they love that certain something. This includes guys dressing up as girls. (Wich gets the following reaction from me whenever I see it. "Ahhh!!!! My eyes!!!!! The image is being burned into my eyes!!!") I believe these people are showing how much they love something. Many of them don't do this 24 hours a day, most football fans can't anyways, and in fact live perfectly normal lives. It's just when they get around the thing that they love, they have to express them selves.

Darn it! I started rambling again, didn't I? Anyways, a few more comments and I'm out. Comment #1: I miss football season.

Comment #2: Go Jaguars!! All right I'm done.

Postby **ChristianKitsune** » Tue Jul 25, 2006 10:33 pm

I think if half the Christian Anime fans showed as much enthusiasm for God as they did for Anime the world would be an awesome place! ^_^

(I am guilty of this too, so I am just stating a fun statement ok? not bashing anyone!)

Seriously though!! I know so many times I quote LOTS of anime characters..but how often do I quote scripture?

Or my favorite anime show is coming on tonight! I am so pumped!! but why aren't I as pumped about my quiet time with the Lord?

maybe if we got more defensive when people make fun of Christians rather than anime fans, we would see a change?

these are just things I think about sometimes...

Postby **termyt** » Wed Jul 26, 2006 8:31 am

I thought the article was fairly positive, to be honest. We do have a more than our share of rabid fans. We even have quite a few on this very site. The only thing I thought was ridiculous was the question of whether you could be just a casual fan, as if it was some requirement that you strap a naruto headband to your forehead before gaining access to a con. But even that questions was there to make it clear that you could be a casual fan. The guy from ANN spoke very well on that and through out the article.

Postby **mitsuki lover** » Wed Jul 26, 2006 1:43 pm

It all goes back to that famous SNL William Shatner sketch,the one where he appears at a con and tells all the Trekkies to:GET A LIFE!
Funny but true.
It's always important to balance your interests and hobbies.I enjoy anime,but I also enjoy watching the History Channel,especially when they have stuff like
The Revolution on,which I am sad to say I haven't seen enough of.

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