I have thought this for a while now and mentioned it a bit earlier in this thread. I think this is a very plausible hypothesis, given that he so easily believes in the Dullahan myth and that he often refers to humans as if he himself isn't included in that class.Kung_Fu_Master (post: 1397208) wrote:On the flip-side, does anyone get the impression that Izaya is more than he lets on (besides the seeming to be a nice guy but likes to mess with people to have them kill each other.) ? I'm saying that given how some people are in this show he may not even be human at all.
Nate (post: 1396123) wrote:DON'T MIND ME JUST DROPPIN' THIS OFF HERE.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KAO4M5_Gf00
mechana2015 (post: 1397586) wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I53smUYwqnc well guys, I finally found something worth posting.
Blessed be the LORD my strength which teacheth my hands to war, and my fingers to fight:
My goodness, and my fortress; my high tower, and my deliverer; my shield, and he in whom I trust; who subdueth my people under me.
blkmage (post: 1398745) wrote:Really? You can't think of any reason why it wouldn't be a good idea for you to reveal yourself to the leader of the gang you suspect is inciting violent clashes with your gang? Alternatively, in the case that he isn't the leader of said gang, there's really no reason to avoid revealing that you're the leader of the gang that's the cause of the violence around town?
That's not to say that those reasons are necessarily good enough to justify not revealing your hand, but it's far from obvious that the best solution is to just talk it out, especially given that we have far more information (and know some of the characters better) than any of the characters do.
There's a deceptively simple solution here.
Fish and Chips (post: 1398777) wrote:There's a deceptively simple solution here.
Mr. Hat'n'Clogs (post: 1398788) wrote:Hey hey hey hey hey, I think it's a bit unfair to call the Dollars an army of violent subjects, since they haven't done anything yet, bar Shizuo.
And to say Kida should be encouraged by Izaya's planning, I think that Kida knows Izaya well enough to know to be careful with working against Izaya.
Mr. Hat'n'Clogs (post: 1398784) wrote:Forgive me, but who is Horada again?
This guy.Mr. Hat'n'Clogs (post: 1398784) wrote:On the side of the Yellow Scarves, we see an issue. A large group of the gang is no longer loyal to Kida, to the point of ignoring his orders. Just the people who attacked Takeguchi alone represent that much, and its obvious these people also just like violence, and authority, like when they attacked Shingen. They want control, after having had it then losing it following the loss of Kida, and now that Kida is back, he doesn't want to fight the Dollars for control. Neither gang trusts the other, really, and neither leader has much authority. I'm pretty sure both Kida and Mikado know this, which is why neither have really acted on it.
Except that how does opening channels of negotiation NOT lead to further communication between them? The whole reason this is even complicated in the first place is because everyone values their anonymity - something my solution would have settled without compromising.ich1990 (post: 1398785) wrote:While that would be a clever way to solve the current dilemma, it doesn't really solve the problem. The whole reason this gang war started in the first place was from a lack of communication.
blkmage (post: 1398793) wrote:There's a huge risk for Kida to be open if, in the worst case scenario, Mikado actually turns out to be malicious. Sure, he knows what he's like as his friend, but Kida has no idea what Mikado's motivations are as the leader of the Dollars. What's to stop Mikado from using that against the Yellow Scarves if he decides to value the Dollars over his friendship with Kida? In fact, Kida would be even more aware of these possibilities considering he's in the exact same position as Mikado, where he needs to lead a secret double-life. If he can act like a carefree high school student while hiding the fact that he runs a violent gang, why couldn't Mikado?
Fish and Chips (post: 1398796) wrote:Except that how does opening channels of negotiation NOT lead to further communication between them? The whole reason this is even complicated in the first place is because everyone values their anonymity - something my solution would have settled without compromising.
ich1990 (post: 1398821) wrote:If the worst case scenario were to happen and Mikado were to turn against him, Kida would lose a friendship he didn't really have and a gang he couldn't really control.
On the plus side, he would be able to face this new reality knowing that he put himself on the line for his friends and that is through no fault of his own that his relationships were lost. This is a far better result than, say, waiting around doing nothing because you are afraid of what my happen next --which is what he seems to be doing ever since he found out that Mikado is top dollar. What happened to all of that courage he displayed in talking with the van group?
Fish and Chips (post: 1398796) wrote:And I stress - I stress - that the window for this is already closed. This is the sort of thing that could have wrapped things up in episode 18, but episode 20 we're dealing with a different problem. My post was in regret more than anything.
blkmage (post: 1398828) wrote:If Mikado takes an action that benefits the Dollars over Kida, that doesn't mean that Mikado doesn't value Kida's friendship. For all he knows, there could be circumstances under which Mikado would decide that his responsibility to the Dollars is too large to put Kida above. And obviously, also clandestinely leading a gang himself, Kida is aware of all of these choices that Mikado might have to make.
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