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Postby rurouninaruto » Tue Aug 29, 2006 2:12 pm

is bleach ok for ages 13 and up? it has violence i know, but could a 13 yr. old handle the violence?

also is vandread, eureka 7, trigun and cowboy bebop ok for this age group as well?

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Postby GrubbTheFragger » Tue Aug 29, 2006 2:16 pm

It has innuendo, Violence, and Language. I think it might be ok. I have only watched eps 1-11 so far.
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Postby jon_jinn » Tue Aug 29, 2006 2:34 pm

yeah. bleach should be pretty okay for someone your age. the manga's rated T and i think the anime's less graphic so it should be okay. not that much sexual content and stuff like that but there's lots of fighting. if you can handle naruto, then it shouldn't be that bad. as for cowboy bebop, maybe. i'm thirteen and i've seen the entire series but i'm not sure about you. check out the reviews if you want and you could PM the author of the cowboy bebop and bleach reviews. however, the author of the bleach review gave the violence level a 9 and i really disagree with that. however, that's a totally different concept so i'll stick to the subject.
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Postby uc pseudonym » Tue Aug 29, 2006 5:14 pm

Others have given good overviews I see no need to repeat. If you want more specific details on content, read the manga review below and then mentally tone it down slightly:
http://www.christiananime.net/manga_reviews.php?display=184

But the real test of this is you. It might be helpful if you were to tell us what anime you have felt were acceptable or unacceptable and we will tell you how Bleach compares.
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Postby rurouninaruto » Wed Aug 30, 2006 12:26 pm

well, my dad lets me watch inuyasha and naruto.
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Postby GrubbTheFragger » Wed Aug 30, 2006 12:38 pm

I'd say you should be fine. Give the first few episodes a go then if your dad desides against it then it will be settled. I don't beleave Bleach is worse than either of them.
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Postby rurouninaruto » Wed Aug 30, 2006 2:18 pm

thanks for letting me know. doesn't bleach have cutting off arms though?
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Postby GrubbTheFragger » Wed Aug 30, 2006 2:24 pm

Bleach does have some arms being hacked but not from humans only from hallow. They bleed but its not an over the top fountain of blood its realistically dipicted without being to bloody
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Postby rurouninaruto » Wed Aug 30, 2006 3:23 pm

so it is not horribly bloody or anything?
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Postby GrubbTheFragger » Wed Aug 30, 2006 3:26 pm

No. Its not to bloody there is blood but nothing worse than that of (uncut) Kenshin I don't think. Like i said give the first ep a try because it gives a good feel for whats to come.
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Postby jon_jinn » Wed Aug 30, 2006 6:27 pm

also, if you've read naruto and seen kakashi's chidori (lightning blade) against haku, then it's probably not any worse than that.
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Postby rurouninaruto » Fri Sep 01, 2006 5:14 am

thanks for the info guys.
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Postby GrubbTheFragger » Fri Sep 01, 2006 1:03 pm

Andrewshka wrote:Do not think me rude, but later on I must disagree with you. I know that the series may not seem to bloody, but it picks up quite a bit in soul society. So just watch on my friend and you will see.


Don't worry that wasn't rude at all. And I really can't give my oppion for either since I have not seen the full versions of ether and thanks for the info. But just try not to double post to much specially since it seem both of you post stated the same thing.
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Postby uc pseudonym » Fri Sep 01, 2006 4:56 pm

Andrewshka wrote:I know that the series may not seem to bloody, but it picks up quite a bit in soul society.

But the blood is still mostly limited to impact shots and being coughed up, as opposed to coating battlegrounds. I wouldn't say it is as bad as the Chidori in Naruto, nor is blood going everywhere as in Berserk.

However, you do make a good point: if sheer volume of blood bothers you, then later on the series will make you uncomfortable. I have Senbonzakura in mind in saying that.
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Postby jon_jinn » Fri Sep 01, 2006 5:43 pm

however, i think it would be wise to keep in mind that later on in the story when the soul society saga picks up, there's RARELY any killing. though, there are many attempts, there's a very low rate of deaths that take place.
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Postby rurouninaruto » Sat Sep 02, 2006 8:06 am

thanks for the info. my guess is that the final answer to this subject is yes 13 and up is ok. am i right?
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Postby GrubbTheFragger » Sat Sep 02, 2006 11:30 am

rurouinaruto wrote:thanks for the info. my guess is that the final answer to this subject is yes 13 and up is ok. am i right?


Actually the real answer is Is bleach ok for 13 and old maybe but its really up too the viewer.
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Postby jon_jinn » Sat Sep 02, 2006 11:56 am

Andrewshka wrote:An intersting assumption. But just look at the wall with Aizen, also look at the fight with captain of the 11th squad, there is tons of hits that he takes and just keeps on going it is a little disturbing to see how much he love to fight. That is about the worst, but you are right I guess. But it has about as much blood as a war movie or gladiator. Think about it that way, i do agree that no one dies so that is a positive. That is all I have to say for now, but I am enjoying this descussion.


yes. i must agree with you on aizen. that scene was rather disturbing and quite surprising as well.
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Postby uc pseudonym » Sat Sep 02, 2006 2:56 pm

I wonder as to what point you are commenting about Aizen from. That's all I'll say on that for the time being, though further comments are likely to need spoiler tags. But I personally didn't find that very disturbing.

Andrewshka wrote:An intersting assumption.

Also a well founded one. So far in Bleach, no one has died except in flashbacks. Nameless characters don't count, but even almost none of them have died.
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Postby jon_jinn » Sat Sep 02, 2006 5:49 pm

uc pseudonym wrote:Also a well founded one. So far in Bleach, no one has died except in flashbacks. Nameless characters don't count, but even almost none of them have died.


yes. the worst it would get is when a character is confronted with death or the theme of killing in order to gain something. most of the time, after an intense battle, either both or one of the characters would usually just lose consciousness.
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Postby GrubbTheFragger » Sat Sep 02, 2006 7:52 pm

Yea i never noticed that no one dies. Just alot of hallows
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Postby jon_jinn » Sat Sep 02, 2006 7:59 pm

GrubbTheFragger wrote:Yea i never noticed that no one dies. Just alot of hallows


yep. however, hollows are already (basically) dead.
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"Believers do not pray with the view of informing God about things unknown to Him, or of exciting Him to do His duty, or of urging Him as though He were reluctant. On the contrary, they pray in order that they may arouse themselves to seek Him, that they may exercise their faith in meditating on His promises, that they may relieve themselves from their anxieties by pouring them into His bosom; in a word, that they may declare that from Him alone they hope and expect, both for themselves and for others, all good things."
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"I have to tell you first that I am ready to die. I have put my affairs in order. Your supreme weapon is killing. My supreme weapon is dying, because when you kill me, people all over Romania will read my books and believe on the God that I preach - even more than they do now."
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Postby uc pseudonym » Sun Sep 03, 2006 7:46 pm

Most of the characters are already dead, actually. Everyone except the main bunch of protagonists, really.

But let me also say that this thread has completed its topic, and we probably shouldn't keep it going too long. It has served its purpose; if you want to discuss Bleach overall that can be done in another thread.
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Postby jon_jinn » Mon Sep 04, 2006 9:10 pm

*note* to sora764. hmmm...why's there a double post? i'm sure you probably know so i'm just noting it.
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-John Piper

"The very One from Whom we need to be saved, is the One Who has saved us."
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"All of Christian life is ceaseless worship of God the Father, through the mediatorship of God the Son, by the indwelling power of God the Spirit, doing what God commands in Scripture, not doing what God forbids in Scripture, in culturally contextualized ways, for the furtherance of the Gospel, when both gathered for adoration, and scattered for action, in joyous response to God's glorious grace."
- Mark Driscoll

"Believers do not pray with the view of informing God about things unknown to Him, or of exciting Him to do His duty, or of urging Him as though He were reluctant. On the contrary, they pray in order that they may arouse themselves to seek Him, that they may exercise their faith in meditating on His promises, that they may relieve themselves from their anxieties by pouring them into His bosom; in a word, that they may declare that from Him alone they hope and expect, both for themselves and for others, all good things."
- Martin Luther

"I have to tell you first that I am ready to die. I have put my affairs in order. Your supreme weapon is killing. My supreme weapon is dying, because when you kill me, people all over Romania will read my books and believe on the God that I preach - even more than they do now."
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