Bludgeoner Angel Little Dokuro

[Kumagoro]

Do you really feel so strongly about it that you'd go to such measures just for it to be changed?

I'm just defending a series I love. I don't think I'm going to any particularly extraordinary lengths to express my opinion. I'm sure you'd do the same if you felt Full Moon wo Sagashite or another show you like received an unfair rating, too.

You should of written your own review since you all love this silly cartoon so much.

Actually, I was going to write a review for Loveless, but I now I think I'm too liberal and my opinion of the series wouldn't accurately reflect the tone of this site.

[Nate]

Seeing as I only watched the first ep, I was under the impression that the "pedophile" thing wasn't intentional, because Sakura wasn't into young girls at all...

I was under the impression Sakura wasn't a pedo at the time, but when he became older he would become one...that would be the reason why the serum he invented for eternal youth froze the girls at 12 years old physically.

Too much rating on "personal interest/belief" (as many of the members here seem to think) can end up being a serious problem. As you said, one person who doesn't care as much about violence may rate it lower on that scale, while some (with more "conviction" or such) may rate it higher.

I meant as far as the "overall" rating. I agree with his individual ratings of the content, except I probably would've given Bad Religion a 5 or a 6 (his rating is fine though). If I had kept all the things exactly the same as his review, I still would've given it a 6/10 overall, because I find the series slightly enjoyable. That's what I meant by personal view. He gave it a 4/10; he didn't like it that much, and that's perfectly fine.

And we also have the thread in the review section, so people can chime in if they liked the series and it was given a poor overall rating (such as what has happened here). By the same token, a series that was rated highly can be given a second point of view by someone who maybe didn't enjoy it so much, I've seen that too (can't think of any off the top of my head). Like where the reviewer gave it maybe a 6 or 7/10 and someone came in the thread and said "This anime had too much (insert item here) for my taste, so I really didn't like it."

So yeah. I didn't mean personal interest, as far as content (that should adhere to the non-existant guidelines XD;; ), I meant personal interest as far as the "Overall" portion of the review.

[Myoti]

Yeah, I know. The "overall" rating themselves typically can be difficult to trust, especially with everyone's likes and dislikes. I mean, the review for Azumanga Daioh recieved an Overall rating of 10/10, and yet I hate the show.

Typically all I want to check in the series is what it's about, and what the content is (and hopefully the content will be done in an accurate form).

[Mr. SmartyPants]

You should of written your own review since you all love this silly cartoon so much. Cephas VII wrote the review and how he felt about it. You would of done the same.

Easier said than done. It goes by a first come first serve basis. I was about to write a Cat Soup review, but scribs has already taken the liberty of doing so.

Which was a pretty inaccurate one (It's changed around, but it's still pretty inaccurate. Theres no sexual content at all. But the previous score was at 7. (Currently it is at a 2, and I'm still disatisfied with it)

There were some other issues with it, But I'll set them aside for now.

On another tangent. Why do you always speak to us so condescendingly? "It's just a silly cartoon" or "Grow up, it's only a cartoon. That's all it is"

Thanks for stating the obvious, we know it's a cartoon. It's just that maybe we have a stronger passion for these "cartoons" than you do. So stop speaking so illy of something we like.

[JesusFreak84]

Question: is the character a pedophile outright, as in when he's a kid in the anime, or does he become a pedophile as he grows into adulthood?

[Bobtheduck]

I was under the impression Sakura wasn't a pedo at the time, but when he became older he would become one...that would be the reason why the serum he invented for eternal youth froze the girls at 12 years old physically.

Once again, this comes from the first ep only, but I had guessed that he may not have chosen when they stopped aging... So, everyone just assumed they stopped at 12 because he was a pedophile, but actually he didn't have any control over that...

I mean, it sure seemed like he was interested in older girls, anyhow... I mean do they ever give an indication other than that function of his fountain of youth (and resulting assumptions of dokuro and his classmates) that this wasn't the case, or became not the case?

[everdred12a]

On another tangent. Why do you always speak to us so condescendingly? "It's just a silly cartoon" or "Grow up, it's only a cartoon. That's all it is"

Thanks for stating the obvious, we know it's a cartoon. It's just that maybe we have a stronger passion for these "cartoons" than you do. So stop speaking so illy of something we like.

This is one of my major issues with this whole review discussion, and part of the reason I haven't posted back in a long time. The 'holier than thou' crap gets old fast. In Cephas's larger post, the first impression that I got from reading it is that he was equating liking this anime to worshiping Satan. I'm sure this isn't what he meant, and maybe it's a little bit of an overreaction on my part, but that's how the tone of this thread is coming off.

And finally. I think everyone who is condeming this anime is reading *way* too much into it. If this was something with a more serious tone to it it would warrant a harsh review.

This anime is against God for many reasons, including blasphemy. It has content that SHOULD NOT be shown to young viewers: it gives them the message that it's alright to kill because God kills.

This statement is probably the one I have the biggest issue with. This makes me think of how people blamed Doom and Grand Theft Auto for the Columbine shootings. I can see the headlines now: "Seven dead; attacker claims God inspired him through Japanese cartoon"
Okay. Can you see how asinine that is?

Seriously though, going back to another of MSP's posts, it's just Japan using western religion to be different or edgy. No matter how you look at it, pop culture is rittled with people using religion for one means or another. Television, music, books, movies, whatever.

[Kumagoro]

Like others have said, the representations of God and angels in this anime are just there to make it "cooler". It would certainly be potentially offensive if they held some sort of symbolistic meaning like in Evangelion or if Devil worship was promoted, but that isn't the case here at all.

Think of it this way: you know how here we take things like the Yin/Yang symbol and put it on shirts, or put odd little Buddha statues on our car's dashboard even though we aren't Buddhist? It's the same concept, just reversed. We don't hold Eastern religion in the same high regard that they do since it's their culture so we just use it for superficial reasons. We think its "exotic" and therefore cool. The same goes for them. They aren't Westerners, so they don't have the same deep ties to Christianity that we do. To them that's a superficial thing and it's what they find "exotic".

[everdred12a]

Nice point on the Ying/Yang thing. I never thought about it that way before.

[Mr. SmartyPants]

Off topic: Technically Christianity IS an eastern philosophy/religion. But most practitioners are western, it's seen as a "western philosophy"

[Shao Feng-Li]

Easier said than done. It goes by a first come first serve basis. I was about to write a Cat Soup review, but scribs has already taken the liberty of doing so.

Which was a pretty inaccurate one (It's changed around, but it's still pretty inaccurate. Theres no sexual content at all. But the previous score was at 7. (Currently it is at a 2, and I'm still disatisfied with it)

There were some other issues with it, But I'll set them aside for now.

On another tangent. Why do you always speak to us so condescendingly? "It's just a silly cartoon" or "Grow up, it's only a cartoon. That's all it is"

Thanks for stating the obvious, we know it's a cartoon. It's just that maybe we have a stronger passion for these "cartoons" than you do. So stop speaking so illy of something we like.

Not so true. I do love anime. C'mon, no matter how you put it, cartoons are silly. Animation live action, whatever.
And I ought not to post when I'm angry at least. Sorry about that.

Perhaps one issue is, is that Christianity is the only true religion.

[Mr. SmartyPants]

C'mon, no matter how you put it, cartoons are silly. Animation live action, whatever.

Go watch Monster and tell me if that's silly or not. Or how about Paranoia Agent.

I don't see cartoons silly at all. Sure some are over the top or funny. But that doesn't make them "silly"

Some are anything BUT silly. Look at Monster or Paranoia Agent. Go read some 20th Century Boys or Death Note. Tell me if those are silly or not.

[Shao Feng-Li]

Go watch Monster and tell me if that's silly or not. Or how about Paranoia Agent.

I don't see cartoons silly at all. Sure some are over the top or funny. But that doesn't make them "silly"

Some are anything BUT silly. Look at Monster or Paranoia Agent. Go read some 20th Century Boys or Death Note. Tell me if those are silly or not.

Nevermind, I'm not making my context clear. We can live without them... Bah...

I've a better idea. This all never happened.

And I do own Death Note.

[CephasWhite]

Guys, let's get back to the point at hand.

Like others have said, the representations of God and angels in this anime are just there to make it "cooler". It would certainly be potentially offensive if they held some sort of symbolistic meaning like in Evangelion or if Devil worship was promoted, but that isn't the case here at all.

May look "cooler", but it's still against God.

Think of it this way: you know how here we take things like the Yin/Yang symbol and put it on shirts, or put odd little Buddha statues on our car's dashboard even though we aren't Buddhist? It's the same concept, just reversed. We don't hold Eastern religion in the same high regard that they do since it's their culture so we just use it for superficial reasons. We think its "exotic" and therefore cool. The same goes for them. They aren't Westerners, so they don't have the same deep ties to Christianity that we do. To them that's a superficial thing and it's what they find "exotic".

I don't care if you do own a buddist statue or whatever, just remember who you are, what you stand for, and what the real truth is.

[Mr. SmartyPants]

I don't care if you do own a buddist statue or whatever, just remember who you are, what you stand for, and what the real truth is.

As far as we know, "god" in that anime might not mean the Christian god in any sort of way.

An example is Islam, their understanding of God is vastly different than ours. The same premisis is with this series.

I'm not disagreeing you with anything, just pointing this out.

[Kumagoro]

I don't care if you do own a buddist statue or whatever, just remember who you are, what you stand for, and what the real truth is.

It's off topic but I don't actually do this. My mom's quirky "starving artist" friend does, however.

And in some people's eyes it may mean I don't have good taste in television shows and that I have an immature sense of humor, but liking this anime doesn't make me any less of a person.

[Myoti]

I don't care if you do own a buddist statue or whatever, just remember who you are, what you stand for, and what the real truth is.

Exactly, so what is the whole problem here? o_O