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Postby Gypsy » Fri Jun 23, 2006 12:43 pm

Peh. Remind me to skip this one, CephasVII. Good review, though. ^^;

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Postby Nate » Fri Jun 23, 2006 3:06 pm

I just thought I'd point out,

the only thing that comes to my mind objectively is how there is a sense of pedophilia in this anime.

A sense? It's stated flat outright...the basic premise is that this guy Sakura finds a way to create eternal youth, but because he's a pedophile, the process makes all women stop aging once they turn 12. So yeah.

This anime was totally weird and a bit creepy, but it was...it was interesting. I did like the one episode where Sakura and Dokuro took a walk in the woods, and he was like, "There's no such thing as robotic cats, or reindeer that are doctors, or moving castles!" And as he says each thing, Doreamon, Chopper (from One Piece), and the castle from Howl's Moving Castle show up. That was pretty funny.
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Postby Tenshi no Ai » Fri Jun 23, 2006 3:12 pm

I remember seeing a pic on this on AnimeNfo when it was new and thinking that it looked cute, but off plotline. And from the review...yeeesh!


kaemmerite wrote:This anime was totally weird and a bit creepy, but it was...it was interesting. I did like the one episode where Sakura and Dokuro took a walk in the woods, and he was like, "There's no such thing as robotic cats, or reindeer that are doctors, or moving castles!" And as he says each thing, Doreamon, Chopper (from One Piece), and the castle from Howl's Moving Castle show up. That was pretty funny.


:lol: That would be amusing!!
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Postby rocklobster » Sun Jun 25, 2006 4:14 am

Where did you find this one? I never heard of it!
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Postby Shia Kyosuka » Thu Jul 06, 2006 11:09 am

Oh, I love this anime! It was sooo hilarious! One of the most hilarious things I've ever seen, as a matter of fact. I watch it every once in a while with my friends. ^_^

didn't seem like you liked it, though, with the 4/10 you gave it. :(

They ran out of money to support this anime, I guess, and ended it early, though. So, the ending was... horrible...

I don't think the gore was THAT graphic, but I guess I'm not so... squeemish or... whatever. I'd give that a 7 at most. It could be much more graphic, ya know.

I really don't think that it deserves a 21 and up rating. More like... 15 and up at most. It depends on the person.

And... Bad Religion all the way up at 8/10? It deserves more of a 3-5, in my opinion. Dokuro-chan is just an angel working for God. nothing more.

There's also a story behind this anime that you forgot to mention.

In the future, Sakura is going to create a solution for eternal youth (and it stops all girl's aging at 12). Obviously, this collides with God's plan, so He sends Dokuro-chan to kill Sakura (explains why she has the excaliborg). She becomes too attached to Sakura, and decides to do anything in her power to make him fail school, so that he can't create the solution, anyway.

That explains why she's so annoying all the time, around Sakura. She wants him to live... just not be like.. smart. at all. It also explains why she lifted up her dress in the beginning of the series. She was distracting Sakura from his homework, so that his grades will be complete crap. I found that part to be reeeally hilarious, but ok, it was partly intended to be fanservice.

While I'm at it, I think you're exaggurating the breast sizes just a bit. There not all that big and it's not every girl in the anime, either. :/

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Postby everdred12a » Thu Jul 06, 2006 12:23 pm

I read the review for this one... and rather than turn me off from this anime, it made me want to see it. I loved Excel Saga, and this just strikes me as being similar.

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Postby Shia Kyosuka » Thu Jul 06, 2006 3:03 pm

Really, it's a great anime. One of my favorites. I definently recommend it. Don't expect anything out of the ending, though.
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Postby Kumagoro » Thu Jul 06, 2006 4:27 pm

They ran out of money to support this anime, I guess, and ended it early, though. So, the ending was... horrible...


On the contrary, this show was wildly successful in Japan. It was planed to be only eight (fifteen minute) episodes right from the start. I mean really, if this show dragged on for a full twenty six episodes it'd get pretty tiresome, right? The humor is pretty reliant on shocking the audience, and watching Dokuro beat Sakura to death once every five minutes would eventually get boring. There is a second season of another eight fifteen minute episodes in production.

...I really don't think that it deserves a 21 and up rating. More like... 15 and up at most. It depends on the person...


My thoughts exactly. I'm thirteen, and I love this show to pieces (although it's a bit of a guilty pleasure, since the humor is pretty immature and scatological). The violence is very cartoony, much like The Itchy and Scratchy Show on The Simpsons, and shouldn't be too disturbing for anyone over thirteen. My eleven year old sister likes this show, too. I think this is individually the most unfair review I've seen on this site.

While I'm at it, I think you're exaggurating the breast sizes just a bit. There not all that big and it's not every girl in the anime, either. :/...


Her boobs are totally normal sized, considering her age and the fact that this is a shounen anime. In fact, comparing this show to Divergence Eve or Eiken, they're quite small.

Where did you find this one? I never heard of it!


All the episodes can be found on Youtube.
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Postby Shia Kyosuka » Thu Jul 06, 2006 6:15 pm

Kumagoro wrote:On the contrary, this show was wildly successful in Japan. It was planed to be only eight (fifteen minute) episodes right from the start. I mean really, if this show dragged on for a full twenty six episodes it'd get pretty tiresome, right? The humor is pretty reliant on shocking the audience, and watching Dokuro beat Sakura to death once every five minutes would eventually get boring. There is a second season of another eight fifteen minute episodes in production.


Ah, Well, I guess what I heard about Dokuro being ended early was just a rumour. :/

and... Really?! A second season?! Sweet! Can't wait! ^_^

Her boobs are totally normal sized, considering her age and the fact that this is a shounen anime. In fact, comparing this show to Divergence Eve or Eiken, they're quite small.


Good, now I don't feel weird for thinking they're normal sized, too. ^_^

I think this is individually the most unfair review I've seen on this site.


aaaaaand...

Thanks for saying it for me. :sweat: *whistles*
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Postby everdred12a » Thu Jul 06, 2006 6:17 pm

and watching Dokuro beat Sakura to death once every five minutes would eventually get boring.

No it wouldn't xD

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Postby Rev. Doc » Fri Jul 07, 2006 7:07 am

Actually, there are quite a few aspects of this title that might be viewed as offensive to many believers...

There are a large number of sexual innuendoes throughout the 8 episodes

The issue of a Pedophile that is presented as the norm in future years. Of course this would not be the case unless all men leaned this way in their hearts, which is not the true

A messenger of God (an angel) who turns to violence and debauchery to achieve her own goals and this personified by a girl who is only the age of a middle schooler

A great deal of "bathroom" humor

Blood and gore that is a little too graphic in some scenes

I can't imagine allowing an 11 year old to watch this let alone some of the ages posted here. I think a little more parental guidance in needed with computer time.

Personally, CephasVII was far more lenient than I would have been giving it a 4/10 rating. I would have given it a 0/10 as I found no entertainment value at all from a Christian perspective, which is what these reviews are all about.
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Postby everdred12a » Fri Jul 07, 2006 9:17 am

Rev. Doc wrote:Actually, there are quite a few aspects of this title that might be viewed as offensive to many believers...

There are a large number of sexual innuendoes throughout the 8 episodes

The issue of a Pedophile that is presented as the norm in future years. Of course this would not be the case unless all men leaned this way in their hearts, which is not the true

A messenger of God (an angel) who turns to violence and debauchery to achieve her own goals and this personified by a girl who is only the age of a middle schooler

A great deal of "bathroom" humor

Blood and gore that is a little too graphic in some scenes

I can't imagine allowing an 11 year old to watch this let alone some of the ages posted here. I think a little more parental guidance in needed with computer time.

Personally, CephasVII was far more lenient than I would have been giving it a 4/10 rating. I would have given it a 0/10 as I found no entertainment value at all from a Christian perspective, which is what these reviews are all about.

You make some good points, but one thing you have to keep in mind is that some of us are more liberal-minded than others here, myself being one of them.

I wholeheartedly agree that this show isn't intended for 11-year-olds, but I'm not exactly sure how an 11-year-old would get his hands on this in the first place... From reading the review, based on what is said, it would more than likely get a 16 and up rating if it were to become licensed and released here.

But seriously though. This is a comedy. If the show was intended to be serious, then I think it would have deserved such a rating, or maybe even lower. But that's what makes me think that this rating was a bit harsh; the fact that it is a comedy.

Finally, I'll be honest about this. Yes, I'm defending a title I know next to nothing about. But, I think that it looks like a decent watch, and I will as soon as I can.

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Postby Rev. Doc » Fri Jul 07, 2006 9:48 am

everdred12a wrote:You make some good points, but one thing you have to keep in mind is that some of us are more liberal-minded than others here, myself being one of them.


It really has nothing to do with being liberal or conservative in one's mindset.

When I do a review here I seek to put the title in a Christian environment. Therefore, I ask myself a number of questions:

1. Would I show this title to a children's group at church? Why or why not? And if so, would there be anything in it I would want to discuss with them afterwards to clarify some things.

2. Would I show this title to a youth group at church? Why or why not? And if so, would there be anything in it I would want to discuss with them afterwards to clarify some things.

3. Would I show this title to a young adult group at church? Why or why not? And if so, would there be anything in it I would want to discuss with them afterwards to clarify some things.

There are some shows that will fit into any of those groupings. There are a lot of shows that would not fall into any of them because, to put it plain and simple, no one in any of those groups should see it's content.

As a Christian, if I can't recommend a title to anyone in those groups, how can I recommend it to anyone else, a believer or unbeliever? People can get anime reviews from a dozen different sites which will feature a worldly perspective. They come here because they want a Christian viewpoint on a series. If they come here and see "Two thumbs way up," and then get hit with a series with as much objectionable material as this one has, we become nothing more than a stumbling block and the reviews of this site lose any relevance.
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Postby Nate » Fri Jul 07, 2006 2:15 pm

Eh...I agree and disagree. I think the rating is given for personal enjoyment and varies from person to person. While this anime may be a 0 for you, Rev., it is a 4 for Cephas, a 6 from me, and might even be an 8 from Shia.

Fushigi Yugi is my favorite anime and I give it a 10/10. Some people don't like the sexual content and for that reason would give it a 3/10 or lower. One of my favorite anime, Mahoromatic, is chock-full of fanservice but the characters, plot, and music are so awesome that I personally give it an 8/10.

I think the rating is there for personal enjoyment, not recommendation value. That's how I see it, anyway. And if someone did see a review where an anime was given an 8/10, there's still the content things, so they could go, "Even though this show got a really good rating, it still has a 7/10 for nudity so I think I'll steer clear."

Anyway, that's just how I see it. I guess we see the rating a little differently, which is understandable. I guess maybe if I was a parent, I'd be the same way. XD;;
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Postby Shao Feng-Li » Sat Jul 08, 2006 5:28 am

...sounds a bit too dirty for my taste... And not to mention blaphemous methinks.
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Postby CephasWhite » Sun Jul 09, 2006 1:40 am

Everything I have stated in the review is of my own opinion. What Rev. Doc said was exactly what I thought

Adding on to the review. The anime just disgusted me, I couldn't stand watching mostly every male on the show being perverted, hateful, stupid, and idiotic.

I don't understand how some of the members here would even watch this and enjoy it. As Christians, we are supposed to be serving the Holy Word of God which is Yihoshua without a sense of evil, perversion, or death in our minds, spirits, or hearts involved with it. If we do add ANY sense of wrongdoing or evil in the smallest of sense, it's STILL wrong in the eyes of God, and that makes us unpure Christians.

The reason I made this 21 max is because of these things:

- Small, young girl's bodies, or their body parts are shown numerous amount of times throughout each episode.

- Small, young boys were drooling over mostly every single girl in the anime.

- Having a boy's head or body blown apart with graphic detail of the organs inside is highly disturbing.

- I do not believe God would send His angels to kill someone, I just don't, AND I do not believe that He would want any of his angels showing off his/her body parts, he/she might as well be a prostitute.

- Disobeying God is a sin, actually and to disobey Him would result in death.

Shia Kyosuka wrote:
And... Bad Religion all the way up at 8/10? It deserves more of a 3-5, in my opinion. Dokuro-chan is just an angel working for God. nothing more.


You're missing the point though Shia:

This anime is promoting the wrong message. I do not believe God sends out ill-tempered angels who want to get naked, show off their body lustfully, and start killing people mercilessly. This would promote God as being a hateful God, not a loving God that we are suppose to believe as Christians we are.

Kumagoro wrote:My thoughts exactly. I'm fourteen, and I love this show to pieces (although it's a bit of a guilty pleasure, since the humor is pretty immature and scatological). The violence is very cartoony, much like The Itchy and Scratchy Show on The Simpsons, and shouldn't be too disturbing for anyone over thirteen.


hmm...itchy and scratchy was different. There weren't pieces of human flesh flying everywhere, human blood spewing on the walls, a massive amount I should say. I found all of this highly disturbing I should say. We as humans relate to human acts, especially to cartoons, and to have somebody's head ripped off, or blown off, is grossly disturbing to me.

Kumagoro wrote:My eleven year old sister likes this show, too. I think this is individually the most unfair review I've seen on this site.


The most unfair?! What would be the reason you would say that? I am stating what a Christian should say: This anime is against God for many reasons, including blasphemy. It has content that SHOULD NOT be shown to young viewers: it gives them the message that it's alright to kill because God kills. God does NOT kill, God LOVES and SAVES!

Saying that this review is unfair and having someone else clarify that has insulted me greatly, and has given me no respect. I am outraged by we as Christians who are SUPPOSED to be obeying EVERYTHING the Bible says, ESPECIALLY what God says and then we think "oh this is okay...a little bit of pedophilia is okay...a little bit of prostitution is okay...a little bit of lust is okay..." WRONG, it is entirely against God:

ROM 12:1 Therefore, I urge you, brothers(including sisters), in view of God's mercy, to offer your bodies as living sacrifices, holy and pleasing to God--this is your spiritual act of worship.

2 Do not conform any longer to the pattern of this world, but be
transformed by the renewing of your mind. Then you will be able to test and approve what God's will is--his good, pleasing and perfect will.

3 For by the grace given me I say to every one of you: Do not think of
yourself more highly than you ought, but rather think of yourself with
sober judgment, in accordance with the measure of faith God has given you.

6 We have different gifts, according to the grace given us. If a man's
gift is prophesying, let him use it in proportion to his faith.

7 If it is serving, let him serve]

With the statment of being unfair:

[b]Romans 2:1 You, therefore, have no excuse, you who pass judgment on someone else, for at whatever point you judge the other, you are condemning yourself, because you who pass judgment do the same things.


Whoever says they're being unfair for saying something that most Christians would say and is with the will of God is also being unfair by saying that statment against them in the first place.

Romans 13:8 Let no debt remain outstanding, except the continuing debt to love one another, for he who loves his fellowman has fulfilled the law.

9 The commandments, "Do not commit adultery," "Do not murder," "Do not steal," "Do not covet," and whatever other commandment there may be, are summed up in this one rule: "Love your neighbor as yourself."

10 Love does no harm to its neighbor. Therefore love is the fulfillment of
the law.

11 And do this, understanding the present time. The hour has come for you
to wake up from your slumber, because our salvation is nearer now than when we first believed.

12 The night is nearly over; the day is almost here. So let us put aside
the deeds of darkness and put on the armor of light.

[u]13 Let us behave decently, as in the daytime, not in orgies and
drunkenness, not in sexual immorality and debauchery, not in dissension and jealousy.

14 Rather, clothe yourselves with the Lord Jesus Christ, and do not think
about how to gratify the desires of the sinful nature.[u]

We HAVE to remember what God is trying to say to us!

[b]Romans 14:20 Brothers, stop thinking like children. In regard to evil be infants, but in your thinking be adults.

16:13 Be on your guard; stand firm in the faith; be men of courage; be
strong.

14 Do everything in love.


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Postby Mr. SmartyPants » Sun Jul 09, 2006 10:16 am

Does the show imply that the god is the same as our understanding of God? If not then one could argue that its the whole "Japanese-using-western-religion-to-make-things-more-interesting" complex. (Like FMA for example)
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Postby Shao Feng-Li » Sun Jul 09, 2006 11:51 am

Mr. SmartyPants wrote:Does the show imply that the god is the same as our understanding of God? If not then one could argue that its the whole "Japanese-using-western-religion-to-make-things-more-interesting" complex. (Like FMA for example)


Well, that might only resolve one of the many issues...

I'm with Cephas VII on this one.
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Postby Kumagoro » Sun Jul 09, 2006 12:20 pm

You make a point, but I still don't think the age restriction should be twenty one. Eighteen, or even nineteen would be more appropriate. Forgive me if I'm mistaken, but I assumed that the age rating was more of a target audience indicator than a warning. Berserk is the only other anime that has received this rating on this site, and I think it is fitting since the show is primarily for adults. The targeted audience for Dokuro-chan is boys in their late teens and twenties, and tn my opinion this show is highly comparable to Excel Saga, which also received an 18+ rating. Actually, I think the final episodes of Excel are more offensive than anything Dokuro-chan dished out. Now, when actual anime DVDs have 21+ age ratings, it's usually for violence, murder, and rape for sexual gratification and explicate sex possibly involving unusual fetishes like tentacles, watersports, and scat. Dokuro-chan may be racy, but it's not as bad as it could be.
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Postby Mr. SmartyPants » Sun Jul 09, 2006 2:04 pm

Kumagoro does have a point. It doesn't make sense to say "You're 20 you cant watch it" as opposed to "You're 21 you are allowed to watch it"

There isn't a "magical age" to when someone will be mature enough to watch something. Most 18 year olds and 21 year olds act pretty much alike in terms of maturity.
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Postby Radical Dreamer » Sun Jul 09, 2006 3:37 pm

I think I'm with Cephas on this one...Granted, I've never even seen the anime, but from reading the review, it's certainly not something I'd want to invest my time in watching. And the age reccommendation isn't saying "You are not allowed to watch this anime unless you are 21 years or older," but serves as more of a warning, saying, "A 21 year old might be able to handle this better than a 16 year old." And come on, guys, even Anime News Network gave this title a Mature rating: "Age rating: Mature (May contain sex, drugs, and extreme graphic violence)." So Cephas isn't too far from the mark there.

From THEManime.org: "Recommended Audience: Well, we've covered the fact that this show is violent. Extremely so, in fact. I guess I could mention the fan service, the panty shots, the near-nudity, the crude humor, the diarrhea (wait...I DID mention the diarrhea), but I think I've given you enough reasons not to watch this show, so there you go. This show is certainly not for children, but on the other hand, it's not for adults with intelligence to spare either. So who's it for?"

Read the whole THEM review here:
http://www.themanime.org/viewreview.php?id=824

So yeah, I agree with Cephas and his review on this title. Some people may find it enjoyable, but as a Christian, I know I couldn't watch this and not feel convicted by its content.

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Postby CephasWhite » Sun Jul 09, 2006 8:29 pm

Radical Dreamer wrote:I think I'm with Cephas on this one...Granted, I've never even seen the anime, but from reading the review, it's certainly not something I'd want to invest my time in watching. And the age reccommendation isn't saying "You are not allowed to watch this anime unless you are 21 years or older," but serves as more of a warning, saying, "A 21 year old might be able to handle this better than a 16 year old." And come on, guys, even Anime News Network gave this title a Mature rating: "Age rating: Mature (May contain sex, drugs, and extreme graphic violence)." So Cephas isn't too far from the mark there.

From THEManime.org: "Recommended Audience: Well, we've covered the fact that this show is violent. Extremely so, in fact. I guess I could mention the fan service, the panty shots, the near-nudity, the crude humor, the diarrhea (wait...I DID mention the diarrhea), but I think I've given you enough reasons not to watch this show, so there you go. This show is certainly not for children, but on the other hand, it's not for adults with intelligence to spare either. So who's it for?"

Read the whole THEM review here:
http://www.themanime.org/viewreview.php?id=824

So yeah, I agree with Cephas and his review on this title. Some people may find it enjoyable, but as a Christian, I know I couldn't watch this and not feel convicted by its content.

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Postby Kumagoro » Sun Jul 09, 2006 11:17 pm

I'm standing by my opinion that Dokuro-chan should be rated 18+, and I'm not backing down. I feel strongly that this should be changed.

Let's take a look at people who work at the MPAA who professionally bestow age restrictions to movies shall we? Certainly one can't simply say, "Oh, the content of this movie definitely makes it 'R' rated, no doubt about that, but I personally hated it so I'm rating it 'NC-17' so no one else will ever have to see this trash." and rate movies fairly, can they?
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Postby Radical Dreamer » Mon Jul 10, 2006 12:10 am

Kumagoro wrote:I'm standing by my opinion that Dokuro-chan should be rated 18+, and I'm not backing down. I feel strongly that this should be changed.

Let's take a look at people who work at the MPAA who professionally bestow age restrictions to movies shall we? Certainly one can't simply say, "Oh, the content of this movie definitely makes it 'R' rated, no doubt about that, but I personally hated it so I'm rating it 'NC-17' so no one else will ever have to see this trash." and rate movies fairly, can they?



Do you really feel so strongly about it that you'd go to such measures just for it to be changed? Honestly, CAA isn't the MPAA. CAA is trying to give reviews from a Christian perspective, and I feel that Cephas has done a good job with this review. It's really not such a big deal anyways]wasn't[/i] treating it fairly (though I believe it was). It's not something to make such a fuss over. This isn't like the Cat Soup incident of a few weeks back, where the content really just wasn't there. It is a mature anime; even the non-Christian sites that I posted earlier said so. I suggest the topic be dropped, really. There are better things to talk about on other threads. :thumb:
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Postby Nate » Mon Jul 10, 2006 3:42 am

I agree with Corrie, and though I also feel the rating should be 18+ rather than 21+, it honestly isn't that big of a deal. Not enough to cry about.

What I do take issue with, however, is Cephas' statements earlier in the thread. I'm sorry, but I'm no less of a Christian for liking this anime, neither is Shia, and neither is Yahshua (who is currently watching it and enjoying it). I realize you don't like it because of its content. That's fine. I have no qualms with that. Feel free to not watch it.

But don't sit there and try and make it seem like the ones of us who enjoy it are somehow ignoring the Bible or "less Christian" than those of you who don't enjoy it. That's very rude.
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Postby Bobtheduck » Mon Jul 10, 2006 7:40 am

21+? We have such a rating at CAA? I could have sworn 18 was our top limit... Something past that would be, like, Hentai... This isn't hentai... It's just absurdly violent. Like, Kill Bill is cowering a bit in it's bloody shower. And it IS absurd... Of course, I only watched the first ep... I found it to be like a slightly more tolerable version of the Happy Tree Friends, only with people instead of animals. Having Sakura get his head knocked off or brutally ripped apart stopped being interesting about the third time it happened.

Seeing as I only watched the first ep, I was under the impression that the "pedophile" thing wasn't intentional, because Sakura wasn't into young girls at all... I just wasn't interested in the show long enough to find out how it was resolved... I found the "pedophile" thing to be more of a "Meet the Parents" or "Love Hina" type of misunderstanding... Maybe the show changes that later on...
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Postby Myoti » Mon Jul 10, 2006 7:47 am

I get strange feeling something may end up on the "DnD" list soon. o-o

Eh...I agree and disagree. I think the rating is given for personal enjoyment and varies from person to person. While this anime may be a 0 for you, Rev., it is a 4 for Cephas, a 6 from me, and might even be an 8 from Shia.

Fushigi Yugi is my favorite anime and I give it a 10/10. Some people don't like the sexual content and for that reason would give it a 3/10 or lower. One of my favorite anime, Mahoromatic, is chock-full of fanservice but the characters, plot, and music are so awesome that I personally give it an 8/10.

I think the rating is there for personal enjoyment, not recommendation value. That's how I see it, anyway. And if someone did see a review where an anime was given an 8/10, there's still the content things, so they could go, "Even though this show got a really good rating, it still has a 7/10 for nudity so I think I'll steer clear."

Oh dear. Too much rating on "personal interest/belief" (as many of the members here seem to think) can end up being a serious problem. As you said, one person who doesn't care as much about violence may rate it lower on that scale, while some (with more "conviction" or such) may rate it higher.

This is why I am encouraging a stricter rating system (I PMed Gypsy on this).

Example: When anime like One Piece and Rurouni Kenshin both get a "7" for Violence, there's a problem. OP I can understand, as it's extremely bloody and has many "painful" moments (getting impaled, shot, slashed, etc.). However, OP has no gore and very deaths. RK, on the other hand, should probably have a higher rating due to the amounts of gore (so I've heard) and such.

We really need some sort of list for specific ratings on content.
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Postby Shao Feng-Li » Mon Jul 10, 2006 7:52 am

It's SAmurai X that has the gore. Not Rurouni Kenshin so much.

Honestly, you guys are being to petty over the ages. You should of written your own review since you all love this silly cartoon so much. Cephas VII wrote the review and how he felt about it. You would of done the same.

And you can't trust the MPAA worth crap. They rated Catch me if You Can PG-13 :shady:
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Postby Myoti » Mon Jul 10, 2006 8:01 am

Funny, I thought Samurai X was the same thing? Ah well...
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Postby Shao Feng-Li » Mon Jul 10, 2006 8:03 am

Samurai X (OAV) is the part they didn't animate as part of the Rurouni Kenshin TV series. Samurai X and Rurouni Kenshin are the same tihng in the original manga.

RK Tv rated 13+ and Samurai X rated 17+
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