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Postby ~BlueRose~ » Tue Apr 11, 2006 6:05 pm

[spoiler= Tom Dincht's question]In the 1000 enemy fight, there is no Behemoth on beginner mode. I'm not sure about Proud Mode, I'm tryin to get to that. <_<
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Demyx will play his "guitar like" weapon, and send clones everywhere. The key is to stay near him, and to continually be pressing triangle. Don't just stand there and press it when you see it, go around the clones that are in groups. Use the Wild Dance continually, until Demyx discontinues his move, and you have deleted them all. This move will continue throughout the battle, so try and keep attacking Demyx whenever they're not around. [/spoiler]

Hope I helped. ^_^ Right-on for the 'take your time' angle.
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Postby Nate » Wed Apr 12, 2006 12:47 am

As far as the picture. No, there aren't any Behemoths, not even on Proud Mode. That picture was conceptual. Often times in conceptual art and screens, there are things that do not appear in the final version. That's definitely from way before the final version, as you can tell from the comment on the bottom (about "This is supposedly the beginning of the game," when it doesn't happen until about halfway through). So yeah. That screenshot isn't a hoax, it's just a concept screen, and they obviously took out the Behemoths before the final product.
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Postby Kkun » Wed Apr 12, 2006 5:31 am

Tom Dincht wrote:I just got semi-stuck on a boss.

I may sound like a complete n00b because I haven`t finished it yet but I am taking this game really slowly (maybe a half hour every other day at the most) and I have no intention of wrapping it up quickly.

That dude with the guitar. He randomly makes all these clones and they seperate all over the ring and you have 9 seconds to kill them all. It takes 6 seconds to get to one and yes, I know about Wild Dance.


Right when the fight starts, try jumping in instead of just running up to one. Also, another way to go about it is to immediately lock-on and attack with Slide Dash (I think that's it) equipped. Sora will automatically zoom up to one. If getting to them is your problem, those might help...
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Postby ~BlueRose~ » Wed Apr 12, 2006 12:51 pm

[spoiler=Refering to the concept art and screens] That goes for the scene where the gang first see Mickey Mouse in Twilight town. It shows Sora in his black outfit, and he hadn't even gone to Yen Sid's place yet. *shrug* There are actually quite a few scenes that they changed I noticed. [/spoiler]
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Postby Tommy » Wed Apr 12, 2006 1:08 pm

I wonder why they took the Behemoths out. They would`ve made a great touch (and it would`ve given me back that awesome war feeling I lost after beating LOTR The Return of the King). When I saw those screenshots, LOTR did come to mind.

Anyways, I beat that boss and I actually disliked the battle of 1000 Heartless. Not enough variety. They needed numerous kinds of Heartless and two Behemoths would`ve rocked.
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Postby ~BlueRose~ » Wed Apr 12, 2006 7:13 pm

*sighs* Behemoths were my favorite. They made ya feel like you were acomplishing something great, when they were kinda easy. So many attacks though! @.@ Oh yeah!
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Postby Gypsy » Thu Apr 13, 2006 6:39 am

I'm still picking away at the game too. I've gone as far as the story will let me and still be able to get out to the world map, so now I'm running from place to place with Sweet Memories trying to get an insane amount of items and max out my levels. Also, trying to accomplish all the missions in the journal is proving a bit tricky on some of them. And it's the stupid ones that are tripping me up. Poster delievery makes me want to say bad words - I'm still trying to work out a good route, and the junk sweep ... I'm almost up in the 90s and I'm not even close to being able to destroy all that stuff in 6 swings. *grumble grumble*
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Postby Kkun » Thu Apr 13, 2006 6:43 am

Gypsy wrote:I'm still picking away at the game too. I've gone as far as the story will let me and still be able to get out to the world map, so now I'm running from place to place with Sweet Memories trying to get an insane amount of items and max out my levels. Also, trying to accomplish all the missions in the journal is proving a bit tricky on some of them. And it's the stupid ones that are tripping me up. Poster delievery makes me want to say bad words - I'm still trying to work out a good route, and the junk sweep ... I'm almost up in the 90s and I'm not even close to being able to destroy all that stuff in 6 swings. *grumble grumble*



If you want to max out your levels, the best place to go is the Peak in Pride Lands. Go into Simba's den and look for the door at the back. You'll fight about 200 Rapid Thrusters. Equip Sora with the Experience Boost ability and the Gull Wing Keyblade. Then, let him get beaten up enough to where he is in critical condition (also, take all healing abilities off of your allies). Every time you kill one of the Rapid Thrusters, you'll get 168 EXP. Use Magnega on large groups of them and you're in for a ton of EXP. I went from level 74 to around 90-something in like an hour. It's really cool. XD Also, you'll max out your Lightning Shards very quickly.
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Postby Nate » Thu Apr 13, 2006 9:12 am

Gypsy wrote:and the junk sweep ... I'm almost up in the 90s and I'm not even close to being able to destroy all that stuff in 6 swings. *grumble grumble*

The best way is to get Fenrir from Sephiroth and take off all combo pluses and equip Negative Combo. You will then have a one swing combo. The tip is that the final swing of a combo is what sends the boxes flying, so if you have only one swing in your combo, that will send the junk flying right away. Just line up a box so that it hits a bunch of other boxes too, and that'll do it. The same principle applies to the Maniac mode of Phil's training.

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Postby Kry » Thu Apr 13, 2006 11:27 am

Kkun wrote:If you want to max out your levels, the best place to go is the Peak in Pride Lands. Go into Simba's den and look for the door at the back. You'll fight about 200 Rapid Thrusters. Equip Sora with the Experience Boost ability and the Gull Wing Keyblade. Then, let him get beaten up enough to where he is in critical condition (also, take all healing abilities off of your allies). Every time you kill one of the Rapid Thrusters, you'll get 168 EXP. Use Magnega on large groups of them and you're in for a ton of EXP. I went from level 74 to around 90-something in like an hour. It's really cool. XD Also, you'll max out your Lightning Shards very quickly.


o.o -didn't know that- wow, cool....I'm gonna try that! I already got past pride rock...but I want to level some more just because..I do. >.>
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Postby Mega.EXE » Sun Apr 16, 2006 1:19 pm

well at first i didnt like KH but thats probably bc i played only a little of the first one and the little of it i played was in alice in wonderland yay!
i didnt like chain of memories for the GBA and didnt like it that much.
but if i had a PS2 i would probably get it.
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Postby Nate » Sun Apr 16, 2006 1:45 pm

Kkun wrote:If you want to max out your levels, the best place to go is the Peak in Pride Lands. . .

Two more additions to this you may find helpful. The XP boost from Gullwing/Experience Boost only applies to enemies SORA kills. If Donald and Goofy kill one, it still gives you only 56. To max out your potential XP, be sure to equip Donald and Goofy with their initial weapons and take off all their special abilities to minimize the number of enemies they kill.
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Postby Kami » Sun Apr 16, 2006 8:29 pm

Wow-- Just beat it-- Now I'm going to go back and do some cleaning up and finish the little side quests and stuff XD; Wow ! Thanks for the tips, Kry and K-sama ! Very helpful ;D

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Postby Sami_jane » Tue Apr 18, 2006 5:22 am

i loved the first KH and i really want KH2 but unfortunately i have to get another PS2 for that to happen. but i am thinking of selling my xbox and its games for a PS2 instead cause we dont play w/ the xbox at all. im hoping that will at least get me the PS2. after taht when i get a job i can get the game. i cant wait!!

btw i heard that at the end of KH2 when you beat it that is, that there is another trailor for KH3. but i also heard that they are going to make it for the PS3 which is going to be way more expensive <_<
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Postby Bunny » Tue Apr 18, 2006 7:53 pm

Yay! Just beat the game completing only enough to get to the secret ending. (And let me just say that the level of irritation in doing so bordered on the heinous.)

Is anyone else a little worried about that secret ending, by the way?
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Postby Kami » Wed Apr 19, 2006 7:27 am

Yes ! OMG. I watched it and got SO ANNOYED. I want to know what happens so bad ! Has anyone else seen the Another side Another Story clip ?? I saw it on YouTube and ..... just..... >_< !!!! D=

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Postby Tommy » Wed Apr 19, 2006 8:01 am

They wanna make money so therefore they make more games because no matter how much they make, they will sell, and you know it. You honestly thought it would end at 2?!

It`s going to to be stretched out but not as much as FF.

Rumor has it that Kingdom Heart III will NOT star Sora.

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Postby GrubbTheFragger » Wed Apr 19, 2006 8:08 am

square/enix end at only 2 games. thats funny
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Postby Tommy » Wed Apr 19, 2006 9:55 am

*cough Musashi Cough*
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Postby Kami » Wed Apr 19, 2006 11:40 am

Oh, KH is by Tetsuya Nomura. OF COURSE it's going to have more than 2 ! XD I mean. Can anyone say : Final Fantasy ?! XD;; I heard that too Tom-- Also, I heard

[spoiler]it's either supposed to be in the Future, or in the Past. Personally I'm leaning to the Future, seeing as the suits and stuff >.>; They looked like Power Rangers XD[/spoiler]

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Postby Tommy » Wed Apr 19, 2006 1:12 pm

Nomura didn`t produce FF. He just did character designing.
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Postby Nate » Wed Apr 19, 2006 2:04 pm

Tom Dincht wrote:Rumor has it that Kingdom Heart III will NOT star Sora.

Wow. No one listens to the guy who makes the games? That's interesting. Since, you know, the guy who is in charge of MAKING the games would have the most weight to his words.

FACT: Sora will be the star of ALL Kingdom Hearts games. Taken from an interview with Tetsuya Nomura:

GMR: Chain of Memories is primarily a one-man show, despite appearances by nearly everyone from the first game. Why put the focus on Sora?

TN: Kingdom Hearts is Sora's story...and especially in Chain of Memories, Sora's memories play an important role.

There you go. Kingdom Hearts is, and always will be Sora's story. In other words, there will not be a Kingdom Hearts game in which Sora is not the star. I don't care what rumors you hear. The GUY MAKING THE GAME says it is Sora's story.

As far as the Kingdom Hearts thing "going on forever," he also debunked that rumor.

GMR: With the first Kingdom Hearts, you took a wait-and-see approach before starting work on a sequel. Now that the series is a success, do you plan to turn Kingdom Hearts into an ongoing, Final Fantasy-sized franchise? What is the future of Kingdom Hearts?

TN: I believe that the Final Fantasy series is one that will continue forever. On the other hand, Kingdom Hearts will come to an end at some point. Whether that end comes in the next story or in several more installments, I do not know. What I do know is that I already see that "last scene" that will put an end to Kingdom Hearts.

Again, from the CREATOR'S mouth. There will be an end to the Kingdom Hearts games. It won't go on like Final Fantasy.

All quotes were taken from this interview:

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Postby Tommy » Wed Apr 19, 2006 3:13 pm

I said it was a RUMOR. i never said it was a true rumor.

And I am perfectly aware the series isn`t oging to stretch out.
I read that interview prior to making the post.

I just recently hard a rumor that Sora was not going to appear in it but rather Roxas who is PART of Sora. never said it to be fact though.
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Postby Bunny » Wed Apr 19, 2006 3:31 pm

In reference to the secret ending-

[spoiler="click here"]The figures in armor are trippin' me out. All I know is that the day KH goes mech, I'm crying myself to sleep.[/spoiler]
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Postby Kawaiikneko » Wed Apr 19, 2006 7:20 pm

I don't really care either way, but I'd like to point out a little hasty generalization in your debate ^^ Simply because he says Kingdom Hearts is Sora's story, especially since he's only answering a direct question asking why the focus is on Sora, does not give you enough info to jump to the totalist conclusion that EVERY game will be about Sora. Maybe they will be, but jumping to a conclusion from such a small amount of information is generally not wise and you may end up creating a disappointment for yourself.

As for me, as long as the storylines are good and the gameplay is fun I think they can go wild with Kingdom Hearts. (I do like Sora though, and would like them to continue with him as main character)
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Postby ~BlueRose~ » Wed Apr 19, 2006 8:43 pm

I find it neat that Nomura-san knows the ending scene already. ^_^ I wonder what is in this clever man's head ya know? ^_^

I go with Tee though, whatever they do with the KH games, I wanna play em (Unless they get too dark or something). And I am SO not gonna go for any rumors until a month before the game is released. Gosh, you could look up so many from KH2 that were waaaaaay off. But that's just what I'm gonna do. *shrug* In any case, I'm looking very much forward to this upcoming Kingdom Hearts game.
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Postby Tommy » Thu Apr 20, 2006 6:50 am

Am I the only person who finds it funny how this is a kid`s version of FF and yet the storlyine is more complicated than most FFs (excluding VII, you had to really pay attention in VII).
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Postby ~BlueRose~ » Thu Apr 20, 2006 1:31 pm

lol, I find it funny. Clever is the word I like to use. Very clever. Keeps ya on your toes, neh? ^_~
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Postby ~BlueRose~ » Fri Apr 21, 2006 3:47 pm

Found this awesome site that has every cutscene in the game in Japanese, and was observing the Secret ending. I have some thoughts, but you guys probably thought of them already, but I just wanted to share. ^_^

Here are some of my random thoughts after watching it over once more:
[spoiler=Secret Ending] What mainly caught my eye, was that in the beginning, you see the tallest, and middle PIA (Person In Armor). He doesn't move until what looks like a dobule of himself matches up to him. So I'm figuring it might be Sora...maybe. It seems though, it may be someone and their Nobody together. But the only person who could do such a thing would be Sora or Kairi, because Namine and Roxas still remain with them.
Another thought was, that I'm guessing that might be Xehanort in the shadows of the dust, because it looks like a man in a black coat. Or at least...some kind of flowing clothing.
I was reading up on it, and observed the 3 keyblades in the ground closer, noticed that that is Riku's heartless keyblade on the left, and Mickey's on the right. Now I'm wondering...what in the world is a girl picking up Mickey's keyblade for? And why in the world is some short dude pickin up Riku's? I wonder how many years later...or even earlier this was. I'm guessing later though....I really really think the Keyblade plays a big part in this game....lol. XD[/spoiler]

*shrugs* Just thoughts.
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Postby Nate » Fri Apr 21, 2006 3:56 pm

[SPOILER=Secret Ending]Again, the three characters in armor aren't Sora, Riku, or Kairi. They are three original characters that have not yet been introduced. Nomura says so. ^^[/SPOILER]
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