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Postby rocklobster » Mon Mar 27, 2006 6:50 pm

I was quite surprised this happened on Saturday. If I were in charge of the programming, I'd have aired it during AS. It's WAY too violent for the Toonami crowd. The parents would be in an uproar. I mean, come on they have to edit Naruto, for Pete's sake!
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Postby Sync » Mon Mar 27, 2006 8:07 pm

they've shown Ace Ventura, Who Framed Roger Rabbit and now Dumb & Dumber is upcoming, none of which are kids movies even when edited. the S&P people are obviously slacking off.
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Postby Tenshi no Ai » Mon Mar 27, 2006 8:12 pm

Well if YTV can air it uncut too... not surprised. (And YTV was the company that stalled on sticking the GitS: SAC ep "Jungle Cruise" on... but eventually did). Not sure what time Toonami's on, but I think it was fairly early in the night that YTV had it on.
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Postby Sami_jane » Tue Mar 28, 2006 5:31 am

well i didnt expect it to be so gory since it was on toonami...so ya i really kind of am suprised they didnt show it on AS. i mean i guess all the other movies i could see on toonami but that one being on there really did suprise me.
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Postby Kawaiikneko » Tue Mar 28, 2006 7:02 am

yeah I was surprised! Did anyone here watch it and see how much they editted

I have it from when I taped it on TCM so I didn't watch it on CN
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Postby beau99 » Tue Mar 28, 2006 9:07 am

Kawaiikneko wrote:yeah I was surprised! Did anyone here watch it and see how much they editted

Nothing was edited, per Miyazaki's rule.
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Postby rii namuras » Tue Mar 28, 2006 10:07 am

(Nothing was edited?! Whoah. I rented it a month ago and watched it with my dad (my siblings were up in Lousiana), and while I didn't mind the gore and minor cursing (though I did twitch a few times), I would have never let my siblings watch something like that, especially near the end with a certain character who became a demon. I was intending on letting them watch it because it was on CN, but now...)

( ::deletes off of Tivo:: )
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Postby beau99 » Tue Mar 28, 2006 10:25 am

Besides cuts made for fitting within a time limit, Miyazaki doesn't allow anything to be edited in his movies content-wise.
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Postby inkjet1987 » Tue Mar 28, 2006 10:41 am

Now I wish I would have known this was on.
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Postby GrubbTheFragger » Tue Mar 28, 2006 11:40 am

i was quiet surprised that it was shown un-edited and that makes me happy cuz it being editted would not have done the film justice
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Postby ChristianKitsune » Tue Mar 28, 2006 12:15 pm

I couldnt watch it, but I was suprised that it was on...(I was travelling)

but It was my first anime movie..and when I watched it, I was rather scared of it..XP (that was 5 years ago)
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Postby Tommy » Tue Mar 28, 2006 12:26 pm

"Who Framed Roger Rabbit" is a kid`s movie edited or not.....
I think that the movie was fine on Toonami. The only gore that was shown was that of an animal which can be shown on the Discovery Channel with a TV PG rating not animated.
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Postby Tenshi no Ai » Tue Mar 28, 2006 12:28 pm

Tom Dincht wrote:The only gore that was shown was that of an animal which can be shown on the Discovery Channel with a TV PG rating not animated.


And maybe Ashitaka being shot... and still surviving, just bleeding lots... oh, and can't forget when Ashitaka shooting off several arms AND heads of samurai :/ Cause ya know, seeing a close-up of severed arms hooked onto a tree by an arrow isn't gorry at all ;)
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Postby Tommy » Tue Mar 28, 2006 12:29 pm

Yeah, and no blood splatted anywhere.

The head just came off and the guys arm looked like a slab of steak.
We`re talking about gore not blood anyway. No human gore was shown.
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Postby GrubbTheFragger » Tue Mar 28, 2006 12:34 pm

tom dinct wrote:Yeah, and no blood splatted anywhere.

The head just came off and the guys arm looked like a slab of steak.
We`re talking about gore not blood anyway. No human gore was shown.


tom Princess monoke was gorey for Toonami cuz well again some ones arms were ripped off and pinned to a tree. And last time i checked the edited Naruto and One piece for blood. <last part was uncalled for on my part so editted>
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Postby Tenshi no Ai » Tue Mar 28, 2006 12:35 pm

Miyazaki has never really drawn "gore" anyhow :/ Now that I think about it, there's only been a couple anime I've seen with human gore actually shown (not counting Inuyasha with the demons and stuff) :/ Akira, Elfen Lied... and well, I guess the first ep of FMA would count too :/ ...that's about it, really :/ I've seen lots of anime, and even though some were pretty violent and even bloody (Kenshin OVAs for example) wasn't even gory :/
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Postby GrubbTheFragger » Tue Mar 28, 2006 12:51 pm

well in my opppion i classify Gore as like losing of limbs not blood covering stuff. So in my oppion it was a bit gorey for toonami
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Postby Tommy » Tue Mar 28, 2006 1:26 pm

Naruto still has an adult swim level of blood. Normally it doesn`t, but the battle with Zabuza was equivelent to that of a FMA episode.

Gorey for TOONAMI is a WHOLE DIFFERENT ball park.
Not neccessarily.
They did warn audiences that it had more violence then the usual cartoons they air and it did get a TV 14 label so no, I don`t think it was too violent.
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Postby Sami_jane » Tue Mar 28, 2006 1:28 pm

the point is tho that it was made for an older age group....not really the younger croud.
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Postby Tommy » Tue Mar 28, 2006 1:31 pm

Which uis what the 'Viewer Discresion" warning was for.
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Postby Mangafanatic » Tue Mar 28, 2006 1:32 pm

It's perfectly fine for us to all have varying opinion on this matter. However, let's all be sure that our words are constructive and will not provoke anger in others. :P

I, personally, would say this movie was innapropriate for Toonami. Decapitations, busty village girls(former prostitutes), crazed/demonic forest creatures-- simply not children's fair. Consider for a moment if you would want a eight year old watching this. I, for one, don't think it would be appropriate.
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Postby Tommy » Tue Mar 28, 2006 1:54 pm

Again, that is why people were warned. I havent seen any law saying all Toonami shows must be for little kids. No, it`s more like all Toonami shows must be an anime show leaning towards action.

Why Hamtaro was shown on Toonami will always remain a mystery to me.
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Postby Tenshi no Ai » Tue Mar 28, 2006 2:01 pm

Mangafanatic wrote:busty village girls(former prostitutes)


*scratches head* I don't even remember any reference to their former life. I know Lady Eboshi cared for and brought in lepers and that she "spoils the women" etc... but that they used to be prostitutes?? Are you sure?
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Postby Tommy » Tue Mar 28, 2006 2:08 pm

Same here. I do not remember that reference.
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Postby Mangafanatic » Tue Mar 28, 2006 3:12 pm

Tenshi no Ai wrote:*scratches head* I don't even remember any reference to their former life. I know Lady Eboshi cared for and brought in lepers and that she "spoils the women" etc... but that they used to be prostitutes?? Are you sure?

Did you watch it only on Toonami? Maybe that was editted out. . .

It's been quite some time since I last watched it, but I just checked with Yumie and she agreed that there was a comment which directly illuded to their previous occupations. One of the woman mentions that working at the iron works beats working at the brothel in the city and that the men don't bother them unless they want them to.
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Postby Tenshi no Ai » Tue Mar 28, 2006 3:30 pm

Mangafanatic wrote:One of the woman mentions that working at the iron works beats working at the brothel in the city and that the men don't bother them unless they want them to.


You see I didn't know what a "brothel" was^^ I assumed the men just bothered them cause they were women *shrugs*. Well, that totally clears things up (and no, didn't see the Toonami version which was as stated, completely uncut.)
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Postby beau99 » Tue Mar 28, 2006 3:53 pm

Mangafanatic wrote:I, personally, would say this movie was innapropriate for Toonami. Decapitations, busty village girls(former prostitutes), crazed/demonic forest creatures-- simply not children's fair. Consider for a moment if you would want a eight year old watching this. I, for one, don't think it would be appropriate.

Neither does CN, as they're aiming Toonami at the 9-14 crowd and not 6-11 like everything else on the network (barring Adult Swim, which is technically a seperate entity).
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Postby Pan Chan » Tue Mar 28, 2006 4:04 pm

I was'nt surprised I mean.... it's by that one dude... forgot his name....
and anyways they showed dbz uncut on toonami and that's much worse than Princess Mononoke......
I only saw (ofcourse) a part of it but I've seen more of it before....but the pig was gross.... lol
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Postby Roy Mustang » Tue Mar 28, 2006 4:19 pm

Tenshi no Ai wrote:You see I didn't know what a "brothel" was^^ I assumed the men just bothered them cause they were women *shrugs*. Well, that totally clears things up (and no, didn't see the Toonami version which was as stated, completely uncut.)


Yeah, there were former prostitutes. As if the thing was uncut, it had to be. It wasn't uncut and Miyazaki finds out about this. Then you can say bye bye to the rights of his movies or any Studio Ghibli movies being showed on Tunner channels anymore.


Miyazaki has require that a "no edit" clause be included in all contracts.


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Postby mitsuki lover » Tue Mar 28, 2006 6:20 pm

They probably got Princess Mononoke as part of a package with the other three movies when they acquired them after TCM aired them earlier in January.As such it was probably impossible for them to air it any later then they did.
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