Um....Final Fantasy for Xbox360?!

[Tommy]

I know FF games started on NES and then moved to Sony, but I have heard numerous rumors Square will be primarily working with Microsoft releasing their most famed series Final Fantasy.

What I want to know is: Is this just a rumor?

RPGs are basically my favorite gamming genre and I honestly don`t want to buy a 360.

It`s not just Final Fantasy in general. It`s any really good RPG series.

[Yojimbo]

http://66.92.1.159/showthread.php?t=28737

Reading not so old threads is a wonderful thing.

[Tommy]

No, I am completely aware of that thread Yojimbo. This has nothing to do with Mistwalker.

I`m asking if FF games will be on the 360.

[Cognitive Gear]

Well, FFXI has beta up and running for Xbox 360 right now. So yes, it does.

Now as to weather or not we will see FF XIII on it or not remains to be seen.

[CookinLikeSanji]

FFXIII is more than likely going to be for PS3.

PS3 uses Blue-Ray DVDs, which have LOADS more space on them than normal DVDs, there's an advantage right there. Plus, PS3 is just the more powerful system overall.

It may cost more to make games on Blue-Ray, but think about it, if you were Squeenix and you had the choice between making a game with lesser graphics and lower game time for the 360, compared to a game with superior graphics and obviously more time in game due to increased disc space, what would you choose?

[Mr. SmartyPants]

also note that the xbox 360 has almost NO SUPPORT in japan (everything else is outselling it, even the gameboy micro. I kid you not)

[Yojimbo]

also note that the xbox 360 has almost NO SUPPORT in japan (everything else is outselling it, even the gameboy micro. I kid you not)

Dude do you check your info? There's a difference between consumer and developer/publishers. People will buy the stuff when the games they want for it are out. The 360 sold like crap the first week in Japan that's pretty evident. But I can't for the life of my find any year end sales for it now that DOA4 has been released which I'm sure spurred sales big, at least in perspective of how it has been selling so far. The consumers aren't buying it up as readily as in the US and Europe because the big games that cater more to the Japanese aren't out yet.

The Gameboy Micro is also $100 and selling more than everything but the DS...

But really with games like...

Dead or Alive 4
Ridge Racer 6
Ninety-Nine Nights
Resident Evil 5
Lost Odyssey
Blue Dragon
Cry-On
Final Fantasy XI
Rumble Roses XX
Chromehounds
Frame City Killer
Dead Rising
Dead or Alive Xtreme Volleyball
Dead or Alive Cronus
Dynasty Warrior 5
Far East of Eden Ziria
King of Fighters: Maximum Impact
Armored Core 4
Tenchu
Winning Eleven
Ninja Gaiden

All from big name Japanese studios like Namco, From Software, Konami, SquareEnix, Capcom, Mistwalker, etc. Those were just the ones I could find in about 2 minutes. But they're all coming out in 2006-2007 minus the few already out like DOA4 and Ridge Racer 4. You can't honestly tell me that the 360 doesn't have Japanese support from developers and publishers. Not to mention the fact that SquareEnix is considering making Final Fantasy multi platform and Kojima has said he would like to work on the 360, on top of that the Resident Evil juggernaut is already confirmed. It's entirely likely we could see another Final Fantasy besides XI and Metal Gear Solid 4 on the 360.

[Mr. SmartyPants]

People will buy the stuff when the games they want for it are out.

Good point. (I was overexaggerating by the way)

I did however, get my info here
http://www.gamepro.com/microsoft/xbox360/games/news/50648.shtml

I have heard numerous rumors Square will be primarily working with Microsoft releasing their most famed series Final Fantasy.

However, i HIGHLY doubt that Squeenix will focus primarily on a console that doesn't get much attention as opposed to the rest of the other consoles. If anything a few "xbox exclusives" or cross-platform games.

[Yojimbo]

Good point. (I was overexaggerating by the way)

I did however, get my info here
http://www.gamepro.com/microsoft/xbox360/games/news/50648.shtml

However, i HIGHLY doubt that Squeenix will focus primarily on a console that doesn't get much attention as opposed to the rest of the other consoles. If anything a few "xbox exclusives" or cross-platform games.

Well leave it to GamePro's "professional" journalism to miss the fact that a DS costs less than half the price of a 360. And none of the big Japanese 360 games were out yet at that. And it's the sequel to the Xbox which did pretty poor.

Microsoft has been marketing the heck out of Japan. After seeing tons of top tier Japanese games coming out in the next couple years the 360 is bound to do ten times better than the Xbox did. They'll still more than likely going to stay in third over there behind the PS3 and the Revolution. But...hey with the lackluster performace of the Xbox in Japan that's not so bad.

You are right about that on a point I forgot to mention. Squeenix is probably going to stick with the PS3 primarily, but I don't doubt that all the systems really will be getting some lovin. But no doubt the PS3 will remain the console of choice for them. But I'm curious to see whether the Revolution or the 360 will get dibs on second place there. Too early to see for the Revolution, but I'm sure they're seeing how FFXI does.

[Bobtheduck]

DOA4! With much more realistic bouncy physics! The engine, codenamed "HLSB jiggle system 4", is a revolutionary bouce upward, and downward, and back upward in fighting game technology...

Um, no, the only thing in the FF universe planned for 360 right now is a repackaging of 11 with no upgrades over current expansions, just one copy that features all of the expansions in one release... I was actually thinking of going for a 360 to get their version of 11, but the demo they showed was a tech demo... There were no actual improvements to the real game... Man, I was **** when I realized that. Good thing that the project named only "Final Fantasy" is in the works for PS3...

Of course, that other RPG made made by the Sakaguchi looks interesting...

[Yojimbo]

DOA4! With much more realistic bouncy physics! The engine, codenamed "HLSB jiggle system 4", is a revolutionary bouce upward, and downward, and back upward in fighting game technology...

Um, no, the only thing in the FF universe planned for 360 right now is a repackaging of 11 with no upgrades over current expansions, just one copy that features all of the expansions in one release... I was actually thinking of going for a 360 to get their version of 11, but the demo they showed was a tech demo... There were no actual improvements to the real game... Man, I was **** when I realized that. Good thing that the project named only "Final Fantasy" is in the works for PS3...

Of course, that other RPG made made by the Sakaguchi looks interesting...

Square Enix is promising enhanced visuals, audio, and other unique features for the game's debut on Microsoft's next-generation hardware.

http://www.gamespot.com/xbox360/rpg/finalfantasy11/news.html?sid=6141962

I played it back when it first came out for PC for about 3 months. A good MMO, but I've since decided to never pay for one again. Which is kind of why I'll be happy to play FFXI again since no extra monthly fee will be charged like with the PC or PS2 versions

Anyway I'll be playing the beta since I subscribe to OXM. And whaddayaknow the issue will be in my hands on my birthday!

[Bobtheduck]

Hmm... I guess it changed from when they showed it at E3... Not counting the tech demo, what they showed at E3 was no different from the PS2 version... If there is advanced Audio, that really wouldn't have anything to do with the 360, though... Really, audio capabilities have been Dolby 5.1 since before the PS2...

[Tommy]

What I meant was:

Will FF games ONLY be on the 360?

If so, I am not buying a 360 justr to obtain a copy of FFXIII. Not worth it and neither is Halo 3 - something tells me tat will be overrated-

BTW, Yojimbo, are more of an xbox guy than a PS2 guy or are you just posting facts?

[Bobtheduck]

He's a "TRUE game fans will buy all the systems regardless of income" person, I think. For fans like me with little money, we need to scrimp and save for one system, so we HAVE to take sides... It's a matter of survival. And, then, the arguing over that is just a matter of not trusting completely our own judgement. I sure know I don't... X-box, however, I have a deeper objection to... I wouldn't buy an american made console even if I HAD the money, not for myself at least... Maybe for a friend.

[Cognitive Gear]

He's a "TRUE game fans will buy all the systems regardless of income" person, I think. For fans like me with little money, we need to scrimp and save for one system, so we HAVE to take sides... It's a matter of survival. And, then, the arguing over that is just a matter of not trusting completely our own judgement. I sure know I don't... X-box, however, I have a deeper objection to... I wouldn't buy an american made console even if I HAD the money, not for myself at least... Maybe for a friend.

O.o

What's wrong with an American made console?

[Mr. SmartyPants]

O.o

What's wrong with an American made console?

Feeling of "originality" maybe? Also cause japan has been in the console franchise way longer than msoft....

I personally am one of those "truist fanboy-ish" types. Doesn't mean I can't enjoy a good FPS 24/7 (well.... excluding halo)

[Yojimbo]

What I meant was:

Will FF games ONLY be on the 360?

If so, I am not buying a 360 justr to obtain a copy of FFXIII. Not worth it and neither is Halo 3 - something tells me tat will be overrated-

BTW, Yojimbo, are more of an xbox guy than a PS2 guy or are you just posting facts?

No Tom... There more than likely will be more FF games coming to the 360 but they will still primarily in Sony's camp for now. SquareEnix wants to reach the largest audience possible and they could very well take the core Final Fantasy multi platform. Tom you need to realize that this is speculation. You really should do some research yourself if you're going to keep asking.

No actually I have twice as many PS2 games as I do Xbox or 360 games. I do have my biases, as does everyone, but overall I consider myself pretty level headed. I know what I like and what I like happens to primarily be in the Sony and Microsoft areas. Nintendo stuff is great but it's not what I primarily play so therefore I don't buy their products. And I am posting facts if you bothered to look for them yourself instead of asking the same question over and over you'd find out as well. Really IGN, Gamespot, do a search and you could probably find out all of this yourself. That's blunt but sheesh man it's been answered about 4 or 5 times by people.

He's a "TRUE game fans will buy all the systems regardless of income" person, I think. For fans like me with little money, we need to scrimp and save for one system, so we HAVE to take sides... It's a matter of survival. And, then, the arguing over that is just a matter of not trusting completely our own judgement. I sure know I don't... X-box, however, I have a deeper objection to... I wouldn't buy an american made console even if I HAD the money, not for myself at least... Maybe for a friend.

No I just happen to like games regardless of system...I don't know where in the heck you interpreted that from any of my statements. I'm just kind of sick of people that either make stuff up, or don't read words, oh and statements like that. Really people are gonna take sides I understand that. But I'm really just getting sick of unsubstantiated statements based on whatever popped into someone's head at the time whether they know it's true or not, or gross exagerrations.

O.o

What's wrong with an American made console?

Sheesh why did you even ask? Because it violates the secret code of honor in videogames of course. Really Bob I know you're not in that category but that is an elitist statement. Bleh.

[Tommy]

Well then, it`s a good thing Bob didn`t make that comment then. Ikimasu did. If you meant the post assumming your interests, I apologize.

Well, I`m sorry for asking the same question over and over.

Do you think the FF games will be highly affected without Mistwalker`s presence?

[Yojimbo]

Well then, it`s a good thing Bob didn`t make that comment then. Ikimasu did. If you meant the post assumming your interests, I apologize.

Well, I`m sorry for asking the same question over and over.

Do you think the FF games will be highly affected without Mistwalker`s presence?

Um no he didn't make the comment about what is wrong with American consoles. My first comment was sarcastic and going along with Ikimasu since he was quoting. I shouldn't have to quote someone for every line I type.

Well considering it happened about 6 years ago I guess it has affected them in some way. But I just learned that Mistwalker is only made up of about 20 people. I knew they were doing Blue Dragon with Artoon and Lost Odyssey with Feelplus. It's really kinda complicated this whole thing it's all like one big comglomeration between Microsoft, Mistwalker, and the three development studioes they're doing these games with.

[Bobtheduck]

O.o

What's wrong with an American made console?

Because I am going to Japan. I will be working in the Japanese market. I want to disassociate myself with the American market to a point because I have no interest in the american market as a whole. American systems will be primarily targeted to American audiences. America doesn't hold video games in as high regard as Japan, and doing what I want to do would be more effective in a society that respected games more. The idea of an American console catering to American games is entirely contradictory to what I would want to do.

Sheesh why did you even ask? Because it violates the secret code of honor in videogames of course. Really Bob I know you're not in that category but that is an elitist statement. Bleh.

It's not elitism, like I said I'd perhaps buy it for a friend and play on it with them when I am with friends, for myself I would never buy an American system, so I'd appreciate not being attacked, Yojimbo. And don't try to pull the crap that says calling my statemetn elitist isn't an attack. You assumed to know the reasoning behind it and you're making yourself out to be petty... I have reasons and they go a bit beyond fandom.

[Yojimbo]

You appreciate not being attacked well same here go figure huh? But I'm a "true fan" right so I wouldn't know what I'm talking or whatever the heck you were getting at.

Uh huh...oh right I remember you talking about this before. Well I don't want to sound like I'm dashing your dreams and all, but I'm sure you've already heard this. Can you speak fluent Japanese, have contacts in the industry in Japan, or programming experience? They get payed dirt over there, they work 14 hour days, and still live in apartments about half the size of a typical American house. I can't imagine being an employee for a Japanese software company it would truly be awful. I'm cynical there obviously but I mean are you really serious about it?

[Tommy]

Ok, Japan makes great RPGs but america makes way better sports and action games IMO. Devil May Cry is really good though.

OOOooh, so MW left awhile ago. No wonder all the FF games seem to stink.

[Bobtheduck]

The quote tags are too annoying to setup... So, I'll just use quotes like this

"You appreciate not being attacked well same here go figure huh? But I'm a "true fan" right so I wouldn't know what I'm talking or whatever the heck you were getting at."

Do you deny this? Do you deny you believe that a real hardcore gamer would get all of the systems, and not argue the superiority of one over the other? Because you've said that, or rather specifically both PS3 and 360 while I'm not remembering your stance on Revolution... You go at it with anyone who points out a weakness in a system because you just like games and would love to have them all, or at the very least the "normal" systems being PS3 and 360.

That is what you have said in the past, and I also think that wanting to choose one over the other two is perfectly valid when you have limited funds.

That being said, that doesn't justify your calling me elitist. You assumed a reason to my having said I wouldn't buy an American system.

"Uh huh...oh right I remember you talking about this before. Well I don't want to sound like I'm dashing your dreams and all, but I'm sure you've already heard this."

Yes, yes I have heard the following

"Can you speak fluent Japanese"

Not yet. I will.

"have contacts in the industry in Japan"

Not yet. I will

", or programming experience?"

That is where I need to stop you. There are more areas of game design than programming. I will likely not be involved in programming.

"They get payed dirt over there, they work 14 hour days, and still live in apartments about half the size of a typical American house."

I'm going to assume you meant americn appartment, and yes I know this... Japanese housing is all much smaller than comparative American housing, and technical and artistic workers get payed much less in Japan than in the US... This would be a valid point if money had anything to do with my motivations for going to Japan

"I can't imagine being an employee for a Japanese software company it would truly be awful."

That is your opinion... Truly aweful because of Pay and workload? What about satisfaction? The satisfaction of getting another sports game or shoot-em-up on the market that pays big, or the satisfaction of working toward a creative vision that pays little... I prefer the latter.

"I'm cynical there obviously but I mean are you really serious about it?" Yes. I am. I don't see a successfull small-evangelism game project in the US... The necissary ingredients don't exist in the majority of the American fandom. If someone proves me wrong, that's fine. I'm not here to discourage anyone who has that as their vision. That is just not mine. Mine is for the Japanese people, and to see games as a tool to reach them.

Having answered every single one of your criticisms, I would appreciate not being attacked simply because I won't buy an X-box or a 360 for myself.

[Tommy]

Guys move this to PM.

Does this have anything to do with FF?

No.

Does it have to do with Xbox 360?

No.

Does it have anything to do with FF being on the 360?

No. Change the subject.

[rocklobster]

I hope not. The XBox 360 doesn't deserve a Final Fantasy game.

[Tommy]

Amen to that.