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Postby starwarsboy90 » Tue Nov 22, 2005 10:20 am

Good point, UC
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Postby blue elf » Tue Nov 22, 2005 11:06 am

uc pseudonym wrote:[spoiler]Have we seen Pride yet, though? I had always suspected they had been switched. While the character is obviously different, the basic design could be the same. Then again, if the anime was finished before the manga even reached that point, they might be completely different.[/spoiler]


[spoiler]That's true, the manga hasn't really shown Pride in detail yet, so he could very well look like Wrath from the anime, but I don't know. For some reason I think Pride is an adult and not a child. I know they showed his outline in one chapter, and to me it didn't really like like a child's profile, but I could be wrong. I hope we find out soon though. On a side note, Sloth is definitely different from the anime version, but they've only shown him once from behind.[/spoiler]
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Postby Tommy » Tue Nov 22, 2005 12:38 pm

So the manga is not finished in Japan. The source I use goes up to Chapter 52, so blue elf, I would apprectiate that you would send me a PM so I can read that one chapter...

How far does tha manga go compared to the show? is it almost done?

[SPOILER] So in the anime, Sloth is a woman that looks like Ed`s mother and in the manga it`s a huge, jacked guy, right? IS Bradly even a hormonculi in the anime? So, Greed dies a different way, right? [/SPOILER]
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Postby mitsuki lover » Tue Nov 22, 2005 1:38 pm

From Saturday's episode it looked plenty like Sloth was in actual charge,which
is strange considering that Lust is supposed to have been created earlier.
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Postby uc pseudonym » Wed Nov 23, 2005 8:33 am

[spoiler]I hadn't considered the possibility that Bradly would simply be human in the anime. If so, I would like the anime much less. That's a pretty big change, and it removes a very critical element. And yes, Tom, both those statements are accurate.

As for if the manga is near its end... I would imagine there is quite a bit yet. However, given that Roy has discovered the military's secret hinted at by Hughes and Al is going to meet their father, it appears as though things are gearing up for an ending arc.[/spoiler]
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Postby Tommy » Wed Nov 23, 2005 9:10 am

[SPOILER] I made more than two statements.

1) Sloth is a jacked guy in manga but in anime looks like Ed and Al`s mother.
2) Bradly is just human.
3) Greed dies a different way.

UC, just say the number and say yes or no please. [/SPOILER]
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Postby R. Zion » Wed Nov 23, 2005 9:49 am

1. Yes
2. No
3. Yes
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Postby uc pseudonym » Thu Nov 24, 2005 2:14 pm

You made two statements (1 and 3) and asked a question (2). Despite your sentence structure, this is how your original statements were made. R. Zion has answered you as I would. Also,
[spoiler]I confirmed that Bradley is essentially the same homonculi. However, there are major changes relating to the Elric brother's father, which is a shame.[/spoiler]
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Postby R. Zion » Thu Nov 24, 2005 2:27 pm

Hey UC, on Hohenheim (if you've read up to 53)....

[spoiler] Personally speaking, what do you think about him? In regards to that whole scene where he seemed rather bullet proof and then his generally shared appearance with Father?

A Darth Sidious/Palpatine set-up? Twin brothers? One body, two personalities? Hoho is a homonulus? What are your thoughts?[/spoiler]
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Postby uc pseudonym » Thu Nov 24, 2005 2:48 pm

I have read there, and I am more than happy to discuss him.

[spoiler]My interpretation has always been that Hohenheim and Father are one. I'm not entirely certain why he seemed so nice while being shot, but that may well have to do with what his actual purposes are. Though it would be nice if he were somehow working for good, I suspect he will be the primarily antagonist of the series.

Also, some random theories: as you said, bullets have little effect on him, and he also called himself a monster. This leads me to suspect that he is a heavily modified human, though not a homonculus. You'll notice that he is often connected to some manner of machine, and that he drank the remains of Envy's Philosopher's Stone. I think that the events that happened long ago led to a change in his body, but that due to error on his part or other circumstances the transformation is incomplete. Perhaps he intends to correct his error now and become god-like.

In any case, I hope we get some answers in chapter 54.[/spoiler]
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Postby Tommy » Fri Nov 25, 2005 9:11 am

How about a new Hormouculi, 'Stupidity'?
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Postby Kurama » Fri Nov 25, 2005 9:23 am

oh i can try to draw that up! I got a good idea! XD
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Postby R. Zion » Fri Nov 25, 2005 9:38 am

uc pseudonym wrote:I have read there, and I am more than happy to discuss him.

[spoiler]My interpretation has always been that Hohenheim and Father are one. I'm not entirely certain why he seemed so nice while being shot, but that may well have to do with what his actual purposes are. Though it would be nice if he were somehow working for good, I suspect he will be the primarily antagonist of the series.

Also, some random theories: as you said, bullets have little effect on him, and he also called himself a monster. This leads me to suspect that he is a heavily modified human, though not a homonculus. You'll notice that he is often connected to some manner of machine, and that he drank the remains of Envy's Philosopher's Stone. I think that the events that happened long ago led to a change in his body, but that due to error on his part or other circumstances the transformation is incomplete. Perhaps he intends to correct his error now and become god-like.

In any case, I hope we get some answers in chapter 54.[/spoiler]



[spoiler] I'm still rather out on Hoho, myself. I've read enough theories as is to run the gammet of guessing what it is.

I, too, would hope that Hoenheim would still end up being on the side of good, but one never knows. In any case, since Ed and Al are both with Father, we're bound to find out at least a small tidbit. There's no way Edward would there short (poor choice of words when referring to Ed >.>) of being removed against his will. One thing is for sure...though we may find SOMETHING out, I doubt we'll get the whole truth until somewhere towards the end.
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I would have probably said more, but I'm having trouble putting words to all the ideas floating around in my mind, so I best leave it at that.
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Postby blue elf » Fri Nov 25, 2005 6:48 pm

R. Zion wrote:[spoiler] I'm still rather out on Hoho, myself. I've read enough theories as is to run the gammet of guessing what it is.

I, too, would hope that Hoenheim would still end up being on the side of good, but one never knows. In any case, since Ed and Al are both with Father, we're bound to find out at least a small tidbit. There's no way Edward would there short (poor choice of words when referring to Ed >.>) of being removed against his will. One thing is for sure...though we may find SOMETHING out, I doubt we'll get the whole truth until somewhere towards the end.
[/spoiler]

I would have probably said more, but I'm having trouble putting words to all the ideas floating around in my mind, so I best leave it at that.


[SPOILER]I was sure that Hoho was Father, but now I'm not so sure. Someone on a FMA mailing list pointed out that in that chapter where Hoho was on the train, it seemed like he was heading in a different direction than where father is located.[/SPOILER]
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Postby Tommy » Sat Nov 26, 2005 7:42 am

[SPOILER] Wair, is Hoho or Father or whatever the Elric`s dad? I`m saying that because The leader of the hormunculi got up from his throne and then left the room and a spitting image of him arrived at the Elric`s hometown. [/SPOILER]
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Postby Tommy » Sat Nov 26, 2005 1:43 pm

Ok I just finished Chapter 53. Is the end near?

[SPOILER] Is 'Father' the main villian and it Lust really gone for good? [/SPOILER]

I hope they make a manga volume that covers the movie like Yu-Gi-Oh! did.
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Postby uc pseudonym » Sat Nov 26, 2005 2:37 pm

blue elf wrote:[spoiler]I was sure that Hoho was Father, but now I'm not so sure. Someone on a FMA mailing list pointed out that in that chapter where Hoho was on the train, it seemed like he was heading in a different direction than where father is located.[/spoiler]

This is the only thing that prevents me from being essentially certain that they are the same character.

Tom Dincht wrote:[spoiler] Wair, is Hoho or Father or whatever the Elric`s dad?[/spoiler]

[spoiler]That would be the discussion. We really don't know if they are the same, but considering that they appear to be the same character we would require strong evidence the other way to be sure. Most likely Chapter 54 will give us some answers.

Referring to your second spoiler:
It does seem that Father is the main villain (if he is actually a villain).
Lust is probably dead. At least we have no reason to believe she is not.

In regard to what I said previously: I would definitely believe that Father might have good enough Alchemy to create a mobile faux body for himself. That would also explain why it seemed fairly immune to bullets.[/spoiler]
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Postby R. Zion » Sat Nov 26, 2005 3:06 pm

uc pseudonym wrote:
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In regard to what I said previously: I would definitely believe that Father might have good enough Alchemy to create a mobile faux body for himself. That would also explain why it seemed fairly immune to bullets.[/spoiler]


Hmmm, only after reading that sentence did I have a brainstorm...

[spoiler] I don't know how canon it is or not (I hear it's supposed to fit in with the manga universe), it the first FMA game, the Broken Angel, there was a character by the name of Genz (you can see a little pic of him in Rush Valley in both the anime and the manga), otherwise known as the Armor Piercing Alchemist. In the beginning, he has two huge clawed automail arms. Later in the game he reappears and his body has been completely replaced with an Automail facimile by the female villain in the game. I'm not sure whether it's soul attachment, brain transplant or what....but perhaps this is what we're dealing with in Hohenheim/Father/whoever. If not, then perhaps something similar. [/spoiler]
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Postby Tommy » Sun Nov 27, 2005 6:50 am

Hmmm...you guys point out alot. Is there a Chspter updated every month or something?
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Postby R. Zion » Sun Nov 27, 2005 9:20 am

Yup....a new chapter appears as the magazine it's published in is released each month and the scanlators can do their magical work.
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Postby Tommy » Sun Nov 27, 2005 11:41 am

So when should we expect Chapter 54? How many chapters are expected?

Did anyone see last night`s episode? What a hoot!

Remember what Havoc thought Armstrong`s sister was going to look like? heh, now that`s funny.
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Postby blue elf » Tue Nov 29, 2005 11:10 am

Tom Dincht wrote:So when should we expect Chapter 54? How many chapters are expected?

Did anyone see last night`s episode? What a hoot!

Remember what Havoc thought Armstrong`s sister was going to look like? heh, now that`s funny.


I'd look for 54 about mid-December. I don't know how many chapters are expected, but I vaguely remember reading a post on a mailing list one time that said the author was planning on at least 20-some volumes worth of story. Of course I don't know how reliable that information is.

I loved Saturday's episode. The whole Havoc thing cracked me up the stupid face he had for the rest of the episode was hilarious.
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Postby Kisa » Tue Nov 29, 2005 11:23 am

I just recently startred watching this show and its good! How mnay eps are there total?! I've only seen about 5 eps so far on CN.....
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Postby blue elf » Tue Nov 29, 2005 11:31 am

Kisa wrote:I just recently startred watching this show and its good! How mnay eps are there total?! I've only seen about 5 eps so far on CN.....


I think the anime has a total of 51 episodes, plus a movie. The manga, meanwhile, is still ongoing. I think the CN just showed ep. 37 this past Saturday, while the weeknight reruns are on about ep. 17.
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Postby starwarsboy90 » Tue Nov 29, 2005 11:41 am

Ah, too bad for viewers who didn't get it subbed! I wish they already hurried up and got it all dubbed so we can buy it all!
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Postby Kisa » Wed Nov 30, 2005 7:31 am

thanks blue elf!
The last one I saw before I had to come back to school was the ep where the one guy had to find a g/f and they tried to hook him up with Armstrongs sister... that was hilarious! ^_^
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Postby uc pseudonym » Wed Nov 30, 2005 9:05 am

I'm not sure what I think about the anime's tactics of making the random mini-chapters into the main story (primarily in the form of filler episodes). It is certainly done better than some series, but I have never been fond of the Fullmetal Alchemist humor style overall.
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Postby blue elf » Thu Dec 01, 2005 11:56 am

Kisa wrote:thanks blue elf!
The last one I saw before I had to come back to school was the ep where the one guy had to find a g/f and they tried to hook him up with Armstrongs sister... that was hilarious! ^_^



You're very welcome! ^^ That was a great episode! Havoc's mental image of how he thought Armstrong's sister would look cracked me up. I love the random(and very rare) comedy episodes that Full Metal Alchemist has. I think I liked this episode even better than the one where Roy and Ed fought each other, aka episode 13, and I really loved that episode.
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Postby Tommy » Thu Dec 01, 2005 1:40 pm

Agreed Blue Elf. The second half was just stupid and obvious.
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Postby mitsuki lover » Thu Dec 01, 2005 2:42 pm

What cracked me up about the Flame Alchemist episode was the fact that here all these military types are busy digging up an old vacant lot because they come across some old bones and it turns out that the culprit was simply Hawkeye's dog doing his little doggie thing of burying his breakfast bones.Then later when Hawkeye comes in and all the guys are like *BLEEEEHHH*when she asks them how their night was and they take a look at the dog that was rather a scream!
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