Fooley Cooley (FLCL/Furi Kuri)

Postby **Benu** » Fri Nov 21, 2003 5:26 pm

Sorry now I realize this was a stupid thing too do I apolgize. I feel ashamed for acting in a imature manner. :red:

Forgive me for I took things outta context. Mabye A review on the good points of FLCL would have been more acceptable than trying to force everyone to see it the way I did. :sniffle:

First, Ban all the Trolls. . . · Postby **MillyFan** » Fri Nov 21, 2003 5:37 pm

Ahem. I will not respond to flames, and I am not attacking your right to like FLCL: I simply expressed my own views of it. I did not mean them as a personal attack or a denunciation of FLCL-just as my personal opinions of that anime.

Postby **Benu** » Fri Nov 21, 2003 5:39 pm

It's not a flame and I didn't mean it too be sorry if it is. But it's just somthing that has really been ticking me off.

Postby **Mithrandir** » Fri Nov 21, 2003 6:56 pm

While it may not have been an outright (or intended) flame, it was probably inappropriate. Please remember that everyone has their opinion. If noone offered the opinion that this anime was 'bad' and you offered only yours that it was 'good' and some kid ended up getting exposed to something that made their parents eyes jump out of their sockets... How would you feel? That kid could get banned by their parents from anime forever.

Please do not let your emotions overshadow your better judgement. Your opinions on the anime are fine, but we ask that you don't make statements such as "So and so really bugs me." Those statements server no purpose and only cause division among our members.

Postby **javaman20** » Tue Nov 25, 2003 12:50 pm

FLCL i love that one, its a very VERY comlicated love story... i think

yes, it is definatly a love story

Postby **senjutsu** » Mon Dec 01, 2003 12:38 am

MillyFan wrote:I know that as an open fan of shounen ai that I don't really have much of a place to complain, but there is *nothing* good about fanservice.

*senju hugs his copy of FFX-2*

i wish i had Fliptonic Klipple XD

Postby **Tet-chan** » Mon Dec 01, 2003 2:09 am

javaman20 wrote:FLCL i love that one, its a very VERY comlicated love story... i think

yes, it is definatly a love story

Is that a love story?
i have no idea about that

AMV.org Profile · Postby **Orange Kitten** » Mon Dec 01, 2003 6:37 pm

Tet-chan wrote:Is that a love story?
i have no idea about that

It is

Postby **Benu** » Mon Dec 01, 2003 8:40 pm

It's a Very Serious Sci-Fi Story. But how I see it is a Very Serious Coming of age story about growing up and coming to terms with maturity.........It's really Serious Stuff if you ask me It's nothing to laugh about.

First, Ban all the Trolls. . . · Postby **MillyFan** » Mon Dec 01, 2003 8:43 pm

:lol::lol::lol::lol:

LOL!

LOL!

LOL!

Postby **IfIWereAnAsian** » Sun Dec 07, 2003 11:16 pm

I hope to see this anime soon* ^_^ as soon as someone buys it lol* Well, I can see from this thread that there are many sides to it and just like any other anime, like Inuyasha etc., we are left to pick and choose what we watch. It is still one anime~ there are plenty more to watch*

Postby **Sephiroth** » Sun Feb 13, 2005 1:52 am

I'm halfway through FLCL just now and i think its agreat anime, very weird, with a stunning soundtrack (i absolutely LOVE hybrid rainbow by the pillows!). So far i dont think the fanservice has been that bad at all, mabye the ocasional here-or-there, and i think theres alot worse stuff out there fan-service wise.

Postby **Jeikobu** » Sun Feb 13, 2005 2:15 pm

I saw a couple eps on AS and I think it's very, very overrated. Not very interesting, too random and even annoying at times. However I do want to finish seeing this one so I can say I saw it, besides it's a small series.

Postby **John316** » Tue Feb 15, 2005 8:20 am

My Bottom Line:

1. FLCL is one of the best anime works EVER.
2. If you were confused by FLCL, you need to either watch it a few more times or take a film/literature class and get better interpretive skills.
3. FLCL has 0 fanservice. Yes, ZERO. Nothing in the series is designed to titillate. There's a lot of sexual tension (which is one of the central themes of the work) and sexually oriented humor, which may be what is bothering people, but fanservice it is not.
4. The Gibson 1961 OWNS you.

That is all.

Postby **Cap'n Nick** » Tue Feb 15, 2005 9:21 am

You do realize that you just said "If you hate this anime you are stupid," right? I know that's not what you meant but that's certainly how it's coming off.

As for the assertion of "zero fanservice," I think that's a bit misleading. If my perception of your definition of "fanservice" is correct, by the same definition movies like American Pie could also be considered to be free of fanservice because sex and sexuality are integral to the plot and any depictions thereof (no matter how much they might incite certain portions of the audience to lust) are not irrelevant and thus by definition not "fanservice." Perhaps labeling the content that some here have objected to as "fanservice" is not proper, but neither is implying that the show is completely innocent.

Postby **Ichigo_89** » Tue Feb 15, 2005 9:58 am

I've only seen a couple eps on Adult Swim as well. Of course it's kinda random, but the designs along with ever changing/spoofing animation style, along with smooth action sequences, makes this a must-see. Despite it's crude content.

Postby **John316** » Tue Feb 15, 2005 3:17 pm

Cap'n Crack wrote:You do realize that you just said "If you hate this anime you are stupid," right? I know that's not what you meant but that's certainly how it's coming off.

I didn't say that. However, I will say this: "If you are stupid, you will hate this anime." Note that that's not the same thing as "If you hate this anime, you are stupid." By extension: "If you are stupid, you won't be able to tell the difference between the two statements." Note that that's not that same thing as "If you're not able to tell the difference between the two statements, you are stupid." etc.

As for the assertion of "zero fanservice," I think that's a bit misleading. If my perception of your definition of "fanservice" is correct, by the same definition movies like American Pie could also be considered to be free of fanservice because sex and sexuality are integral to the plot and any depictions thereof (no matter how much they might incite certain portions of the audience to lust) are not irrelevant and thus by definition not "fanservice." Perhaps labeling the content that some here have objected to as "fanservice" is not proper, but neither is implying that the show is completely innocent.

Your perception of my definition of "fanservice" is a bit off. I would consider American Pie to have fanservice in it because the scene with Shannon Elizabeth nude is obviously designed to titillate the audience. FLCL has nothing like that. There's nothing in there that can possibly turn anyone on (and if there is for you, you're a very very sick/strange person). I mentioned that sexual tension is a main theme of the show, so obviously I'm recommending that you shouldn't watch it if you can't handle it. I don't really see how I tried to pass it off as "completely innocent" as you say, but whatever.

Postby **TrigunX89** » Tue Feb 15, 2005 3:20 pm

I think it's absolutely brilliant. Maybe not for everyone though. There is quite a bit of sexual content, but like John316 said, it goes with the theme of the show. It is incredibly deep, and you have to watch the WHOLE series through, maybe multiple times, to understand it. Once you watch it in its entirety it should all start making sense. I would recommend it if you're not bothered by some sexual themes. The show is really about the struggles Naota faces growing up, though the creators didn't make this too obvious. Of course, we all face sexual desires growing up, and Naota seems to triumph over this. Like I said before, I think it's simply brilliant.

Postby **Cap'n Nick** » Tue Feb 15, 2005 4:15 pm

John316 wrote:Your perception of my definition of "fanservice" is a bit off. I would consider American Pie to have fanservice in it because the scene with Shannon Elizabeth nude is obviously designed to titillate the audience. FLCL has nothing like that.

It may be more subtle than American Pie but to say that FLCL contains nothing designed to titillate is simply absurd. Tell me honestly that Gainax, the studio whose name is literally synonymous with fanservice, put in every upskirt, breast bounce, and groped female chest with no thought to tapping into the hormones of their predominantly male heterosexual audience. A person may be able to "handle" these elements but to say that they are designed to be "handled well" is untenable at best.

Postby **shooraijin** » Tue Feb 15, 2005 6:29 pm

Let's keep it peaceful, folks. Pointing no fingers or anything, or anyone, but ...

Postby **indyrocker** » Tue Feb 15, 2005 6:55 pm

I must say I was disapointed with the last epsoid.

Postby **TrigunX89** » Wed Feb 16, 2005 2:34 am

Really? I loved the ending. Without spoiling anything, the whole climactic battle was great, and the end just leaves me feeling good inside. Plus, they left it open for a sequel, though I'm not too sure if that's a good idea or not.

Thinking back, I do think there may have been some true fanservice though.

Postby **John316** » Wed Feb 16, 2005 7:14 am

Cap'n Crack wrote:It may be more subtle than American Pie but to say that FLCL contains nothing designed to titillate is simply absurd. Tell me honestly that Gainax, the studio whose name is literally synonymous with fanservice, put in every upskirt, breast bounce, and groped female chest with no thought to tapping into the hormones of their predominantly male heterosexual audience. A person may be able to "handle" these elements but to say that they are designed to be "handled well" is untenable at best.

And just how many upskirts/breast bounces/groped female breasts do you remember seeing in FLCL?

Postby **Cap'n Nick** » Wed Feb 16, 2005 8:58 am

John316 wrote:And just how many upskirts/breast bounces/groped female breasts do you remember seeing in FLCL?

Are you really going to make me go back and count?

(all images are from anime-fanservice.org)

Postby **John316** » Wed Feb 16, 2005 12:49 pm

Cap'n Crack wrote:Are you really going to make me go back and count?

(all images are from anime-fanservice.org)

You can't be serious. Those aren't fanservice. Most of these are freeze-framed and recropped to add emphasis that wasn't there before. The bunny outfit is a reference to DAICON III, and Kamon jumping out of his clothes is a reference to Lupin. Haruko in a bathtowel in SD mode with no proportions should NOT be a turn-on. I also like how you included one scene of the sniper girl in full military uniform that covers pretty much everything.

Postby **Mangafanatic** » Wed Feb 16, 2005 2:51 pm

John316 wrote:You can't be serious. Those aren't fanservice. Most of these are freeze-framed and recropped to add emphasis that wasn't there before. The bunny outfit is a reference to DAICON III, and Kamon jumping out of his clothes is a reference to Lupin. Haruko in a bathtowel in SD mode with no proportions should NOT be a turn-on. I also like how you included one scene of the sniper girl in full military uniform that covers pretty much everything.

Pretty much all of those would be fan service in my book. *shrugs*

Postby **shooraijin** » Wed Feb 16, 2005 6:30 pm

I thought we were done with this. Can we find some other aspect of the show to discuss now, or should this simply be locked?

Postby **Sephiroth** » Thu Feb 17, 2005 2:01 am

Yeah people lets make it constructive discussion, Does anyone else love the soundtrack? I thought it fitted in great with the anime, and i liked the OST so much that i have it on CD now.

Postby **AngelSakura** » Thu Feb 17, 2005 3:14 am

I have the first one ("Addict"). First anime-related CD I ever got. ^^ My favorite song on it is "Hybrid Rainbow" and I know the Japanese lyrics! So I get to sing and randomly scare people!

Postby **indyrocker** » Thu Feb 17, 2005 7:26 am

Hahahaha Ya I love the sound track for it its soo awsome!

Fooley Cooley (FLCL/Furi Kuri)

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