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Postby Existentiality » Thu Sep 15, 2005 3:07 pm

I doubt Suzie would get a mamodo - unless one of the mamodo controllers gets killed and she somehow inherits it - i mean, wouldnt all the mamodos already have found someone by now?
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Postby Tsukuyomi » Thu Sep 15, 2005 3:12 pm

Me to me to. I love Batch, I mean Zatch. Did anyone notice who his voice belonged to? It's tha same voice as Jimmy Neutron (lol). I had to bash my brains for a little bit there! I love my Kiyo-biyo!
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Postby psychooys » Fri Sep 16, 2005 1:05 pm

Glad to see so many people are into this show! just for those of you that don't know when its showing on toonami check it at 8:30pm sat and 12:30am fri. Who is every1's favorite charactor?
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Postby Existentiality » Fri Sep 16, 2005 1:32 pm

Egad, yes, the voicing of zatch is the one serious dent in the anime - (aside from the more conspicuous lack of story arcs or major plot). It's good that they chose less grating VA's for the rest of the series.
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Postby mitsuki lover » Sat Sep 17, 2005 2:05 pm

I had to check on the English dub cast for Tenchi In Love 2:Tenchi Forever and
it turns out that Debi Derryberry who played Haruna in the movie is also the
voice of Zatch.
btw:Does Zatch Bell remind anyone else a bit of Highlander at times,except
less violent?
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Postby Existentiality » Sat Sep 17, 2005 2:49 pm

"There can be only one" ..lol. Good idea ^^ Except that they aren't immortal - or are they?
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Postby mitsuki lover » Sun Sep 18, 2005 2:09 pm

Well it's the whole battle for the Mamodo King idea that is similiar to Highlander's
Game and the fact that Zatch and Kiyo have made some good friends with other
Mamodo/Human teams,especially with Megumi and Tia.
btw:Wasn't it interesting the way that Susie kinda got jealous and was twisting her
Megumi doll when Zatch made the mistake of spilling the beans about their dates
with Megumi and Tia?
Will we see a Susie versus Megumi episode in the future?
Will Kiyo learn to stay out of the way?
Will Zatch ever learn to keep his mouth shot?
Will the series run out of yellow tail tuna?
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Postby Existentiality » Mon Sep 19, 2005 1:30 pm

That's a good point - it's not a "black and white" series in the sense that all of Zatch's rivals want to kill him and he wants to kill them - some of them don't care so much, or just want to be nice, so they end up being friends despite the fact that they're in a situation where they would normally be enemies
I hadn't thought of that...
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Postby mitsuki lover » Tue Sep 20, 2005 2:25 pm

Yeah.It was the same way with Highlander.Remember despite the fact that all
the Immortals were supposed to go around slicing each other's heads off to
get the other's Quickening Duncan was still able to make a lot of friends with other
Immortals especially *koff Amanda koff*.
Getting back to Zatch:I think that he and Tia make a cute couple.
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Postby Existentiality » Tue Sep 20, 2005 2:43 pm

Zatch and Tia? ...Uh.. I think they work well together in that they *look* about the same size, but their abilities are total opposites - one blasts like mad, the other keeps people from getting hurt. And even if she was going to try to protect Zatch while he shoots lightning, wouldn't the force-bubbles block it?
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Postby mitsuki lover » Sat Sep 24, 2005 3:57 pm

Well she is the only female Mamodo that's a regular on the show.
Kiyo on the other hand apparently is going to have a lot of girl troubles from now
on.I mean if you watched last week's ep. closely Susie was practically livid when
Zatch mentioned Megumi's name.
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Postby psychooys » Wed Sep 28, 2005 12:04 pm

do you think she will ever get any offensive spells? it would be interesting if she was just hiding in the dark the whole time and then outa the blue turned on zatch :o
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Postby mitsuki lover » Wed Sep 28, 2005 1:41 pm

Nah,she likes him too much.Also Megumi likes Kiyo too much as well to
allow Tia get out of hand. :dance: :dance: :dance: :dance: :dance:
If it weren't for Susie I'd love to see either Lori or Megumi end up with
Kiyo,but Kiyo's too decent a guy and I bet that he likes Susie too much
to turn his back on her.
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Postby psychooys » Fri Sep 30, 2005 12:59 pm

it will be interesting to see who he ends up with, but i think in the end it will be sorta highlanderish, and the ones that you were allies with will end up being your last battle. For there can only be one king.
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Postby mitsuki lover » Fri Sep 30, 2005 1:31 pm

Personally if it did end up being Zatch versus Tia in the final round that they would
probably call it quits and become the Mamodo King and Queen.As I can't really
see those two wanting ever to do each other off that desperately.
As far as who Kiyo will end up with,my own guess is that he's too kind and
would have a lot of trouble choosing.
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Postby psychooys » Mon Oct 03, 2005 10:34 am

mitsuki lover wrote:Personally if it did end up being Zatch versus Tia in the final round that they would
probably call it quits and become the Mamodo King and Queen.As I can't really
see those two wanting ever to do each other off that desperately.
As far as who Kiyo will end up with,my own guess is that he's too kind and
would have a lot of trouble choosing.


ya, thats probably true. Well time will tell. Zatch and Tia for king and queen! :P
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Postby mitsuki lover » Mon Oct 03, 2005 1:51 pm

Poor Susie,from the preview of this coming Saturday's ep. there's a new and
prettier girl in school.You got to feel sorry for her,I mean she's the only girl
at the beginning who even bothered with Kiyo.
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Postby psychooys » Mon Oct 03, 2005 2:39 pm

ya thats true, in anime it always seems like everyone doesn't understand who they should be with... the answer is always right infront of them, and they never seem to knowtice.
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Postby Existentiality » Mon Oct 03, 2005 2:43 pm

That's a pretty common thing to happen in anime, so far as I can tell. I think it's probably a commentary about life :P.

Still, it's interesting that a kid's show should have that degree of depth - most of the cartoons on CN aren't particularly proficient in that respect :P
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Postby psychooys » Fri Oct 07, 2005 2:12 pm

i totally agree, Zatch is a nice relief from most of the bad stuff thats showing on CN and other stations these days.
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Postby mitsuki lover » Fri Oct 07, 2005 6:12 pm

And for a change it isn't dubbed by 4kids.If you look at the end credits Viz is
in charge of the dubbing although I don't remember if they actually have the
studio that does the dubbing mentioned in the credits.
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Postby Existentiality » Wed Oct 19, 2005 3:30 pm

Hah! mitsuki, it seems someone took you up on your idea about zatch and highlander; I found this posted on another site ^^
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Postby mitsuki lover » Thu Oct 20, 2005 5:40 pm

That is so hilarious!
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Postby psychooys » Mon Oct 24, 2005 11:01 am

[quote="Existentiality"]Hah! mitsuki, it seems someone took you up on your idea about zatch and highlander]
awsome dude :P thats a great image! thats exactly what i needed :P a picture of Zatchlander.
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Postby Existentiality » Mon Oct 24, 2005 3:49 pm

Glad I found it. Wish I could photoshop something that well :P Hm, I should start practicing. I'll see what I can come up with myself :P
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Postby mitsuki lover » Tue Oct 25, 2005 6:29 pm

I can see Kiyo saying:"I'm sorry Zatch I knew he was your friend."
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Postby psychooys » Wed Oct 26, 2005 10:56 am

personally i am not a christian, but i post here because i think you guys are nice. I was wondering though fro ma christian perspective is a show like this, fine by you guys? i mean deamons coming to earth to determine the next ruler of the underworld? seems a lil... i dono, anyway i was just wondering what you guys thought.
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Postby Yumie » Wed Oct 26, 2005 11:29 am

psychooys wrote:personally i am not a christian, but i post here because i think you guys are nice. I was wondering though fro ma christian perspective is a show like this, fine by you guys? i mean deamons coming to earth to determine the next ruler of the underworld? seems a lil... i dono, anyway i was just wondering what you guys thought.


Ha ha, I'm guessing you're going to get a looooot of different answers about this one, but I'll tell you my opinion for whatever it's worth.

Usually, I don't mind a fictional story containing such things as ghosts or demons or angels to a certain degree. After all, from the way I look at it, if it's not written by a Christian then I can't exactly expect any better, and so I just enjoy the fiction and don't take it too seriously. However, I sometimes think it goes too far, and gets to the point where it's glorifying demonic things in a less than light-hearted way. It's when it gets seriously dark and demon-glorifying that I jump off the boat, ha ha. I can't say what I think of Zatch Bell though, because I've never read it, I actually got on this thread to see if you all thought it would be OK for a twelve year-old brother of mine to read. . . but then I got distracted when I read your post :lol:. So, back to my main reason for getting on here: Is it OK for a twelve year-old? Please, if you have any reservations, I'd like to know them. I want to be well-informed before I let him get into something, so that I don't regret it. Thankies!
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Postby mitsuki lover » Wed Oct 26, 2005 1:16 pm

Actually the Mamodo World is never,so far in the dub,identified as the Underworld.
The fact is all references to the Mamodo World indicate that it is simply some sort
of alternate reality parallel to Earth.
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Postby MasterDias » Wed Oct 26, 2005 2:11 pm

Key words there are "in the dub."

Originally, they were called "mamono" which can be loosely translated as "demon." I wouldn't think much of it however.
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