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Postby Myoti » Tue Jul 12, 2005 7:47 pm

I was already hooked... but the endings just made my jaw hang open in disbelief! Big O actually made me yell "NOOOOO!" out loud at the television! heehee! (Still love the show, but hate the ending.)

Anyone see .hack//sign?
Loved that show, but then it got the ending... I watched on Real Player I thought something was wierd when there only about two minutes left on the counter, then I'm thinking "Ok, how are they going to get a good climatic ending in only 2 minutes?"
Then I see the ending. -_-

Maybe I just need to play the games now.
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Postby Yojimbo » Tue Jul 12, 2005 8:03 pm

Harmony Gold owning the rights to Robotech in the US means no Macross Zero that's not a fansub or a bootleg.
And of course just hentai in general
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Postby eva-boy7985 » Wed Jul 13, 2005 12:08 am

1. I'm sure everyone's had this happen at times. I myself am not partial to either dub or sub, I just watch whichever I think is the better for each show I get into. Thus I hate when the VAs, dub or japanese, don't embody their characters at all!!! Main example being Crest of the Stars, I sat there listening to the dub (but always have subs on regardless), and thought, "Gee I think I should be feeling alot more right now considering what's going on, but it's almost as though the characters aren't getting what's happening!
2. There's been alot of mention of not liking it when good characters die. On a broader scope, I hate when the innocent die, being male, female, young, old, etc.
3. I don't like when an excellent show is squished into only 13 episodes when it could have very easily gone for the full 26; and vice versa, it's somewhat annoying when you spend money on a 26 episode show that could've been compacted in 13 episodes and been just as powerful.
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Postby LondonCalling » Thu Jul 14, 2005 6:57 pm

1.When an anime feels the need to spend over 10 episodes trying to kill the same bad guy -- I'm looking at you, DBZ.
2. When animes transcend the line from Fan Service to Bad Taste. I don't mind Fan Service, but when you are talking about the kind of thing that happens in the 2nd episode of Puni Puni Poemy, it's going too far.
3. When animes are butchered to make them American friendly (This would basically apply to anything on the Cartoon Network)
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Postby Radical Dreamer » Thu Jul 14, 2005 7:01 pm

LondonCalling wrote:3. When animes are butchered to make them American friendly (This would basically apply to anything on the Cartoon Network)



Ugh, YES. You know there's something wrong when someone gets slashed and there's NO blood, and a tiny, thin red line for a wound. (CN's airing of Rurouni Kenshin, I'm looking at you.) >_<
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Postby Warrior 4 Jesus » Thu Jul 14, 2005 7:07 pm

Continous, repetitous flashbacks that are often only used to fill up episode time. (Noir)
Episode transistions half way through, breaks the immersion.
Noise hair joke (Last Exile)
Bad dubbing
Really, really low bad quality animation
Cost of anime in Australia
Fillers that don't add anything to the story of characterization of a character.
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Postby LondonCalling » Thu Jul 14, 2005 7:17 pm

Warrior 4 Jesus wrote:Noise hair joke (Last Exile)


Or Cremortle High School. Oh man that was so annoying... :bang:
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Postby heero yuy 95 » Thu Jul 14, 2005 9:53 pm

Okay, I have another one. Don't you just hate when there are two people in an anime(guy and girl) and the guy rescues the girl. And he helps her out and stuff, and they just seem perfect for each other, and you spend the whole series just waiting for them to fall in love, but then they never do? And to make matters worse the girl goes off to some farawya place at the end, and the guy ends up with some unlikeable girl. Ughhh... this drives me to no end! *Macross 2* *cough, cough*
Oh well, still an awesome anime movie.
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Postby LondonCalling » Fri Jul 15, 2005 11:20 am

heero yuy 95 wrote:Okay, I have another one. Don't you just hate when there are two people in an anime(guy and girl) and the guy rescues the girl. And he helps her out and stuff, and they just seem perfect for each other, and you spend the whole series just waiting for them to fall in love, but then they never do?


Martian Successor Nadesico annoyed me in this way.

[spoiler]You spend the entire series waiting for Akito and Yurika to fall in love, get only a small indication of it at the end of Episode 26, and then when it's told they got married in Prince of Darkness, it doesn't matter because

Yurika's trapped in the ruins and Akito's in Black Mask[/spoiler]
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Postby Jeikobu » Sun Jul 17, 2005 5:08 pm

I can think of one personal one (no it's not dirty :eyeroll: ), and aside of that all I can think of is stuff that goes against my religion or my limits, like too much fanservice, or over the top violence, or too much false religion. The worst though is when things insult God or Christianity. I have little to no tolerance for that.
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Postby avidrkfan » Sun Jul 17, 2005 6:27 pm

When they kill off a character, and then bring them back to life...over and over again.
When you love a series and watch every episode, only to find the ending really anticlimactic and unsatisfying. (Rurouni Kenshin and Full Metal Alchemist)
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Postby Ren_sama » Sun Jul 17, 2005 6:33 pm

- Yaoi or Shounen-ai. ESSPECIALLY when they don't even tell you there is yaoi in the anime, until you watch it...-____-

- Fanservice

- Bad animation...my famous pet peeve would be bad animation. I cannot stand an anime show with bad animation or CG...
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Postby Ren_sama » Sun Jul 17, 2005 6:40 pm

avidrkfan wrote:When they kill off a character, and then bring them back to life...over and over again.
When you love a series and watch every episode, only to find the ending really anticlimactic and unsatisfying. (Rurouni Kenshin and Full Metal Alchemist)

I totally agree~

I hate it when they kill someone and bring them back to life using some magical, super, unimagionable power...*coughDBZcough*


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Or, as much as I love Ren, how the heck does one survive a puncture right through the chest!?

Or even in Bleach (*loves*) Ichigo cheats death a number of times...like his battle with Ken-chan...well, he survived b/c his Slayer gave him strength and stopped the bleeding...but still, it's like no one can die in that show (except for Hallows)...oh, and Aizen. (Which doesn't really make sense--Aizen died in Soul Society, right? Where does someone go if they die in Soul Society!?)
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Postby Myoti » Sun Jul 17, 2005 9:03 pm

When you love a series and watch every episode, only to find the ending really anticlimactic and unsatisfying. (Rurouni Kenshin and Full Metal Alchemist)

.hack//sign did that too. I was very close to punching through the screen when that happened. X(
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Postby Mimiru14 » Sat Jul 30, 2005 2:43 am

many of mine have already been said but..
1.Fanservice
2.endings that make you say "THAT'S IT?!" (EX:.hack//sign)
3.when fans complain constanly about the sub being better than the dub
4.4kids
5.when 4kids puts anime characters in their comercials..this annoys me to no end
6.an anime series with Yaoi or Yuri
7.when anime characters constantly say each others names (ex:"TAMAHOME!" "MIAKA!")
8.anime that just won't end (DBZ and Inu Yasha)
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Postby xCAFx » Mon Aug 15, 2005 1:12 pm

1. Way to much cussing :mutter:
2.sexual anything(innuendos or unnecicary nudity and stuff) :o
3.Use of gods name in vain; can't stand it :bang:
4.BAAAAAAAAAAAD dubbing; oh how i hate it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :stressed: :evil:
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Postby Myoti » Mon Aug 15, 2005 1:37 pm

3.when fans complain constanly about the sub being better than the dub
4.4kids
5.when 4kids puts anime characters in their comercials..this annoys me to no end

Hasn't anyone ever thought that there maybe such a thing as bad voice acting in Japan?

And yes, 4Kids does nothing but commercializing these characters in the most retarded ways.
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Postby Android raptor » Mon Aug 15, 2005 6:21 pm

Since my views on yaoi and yuri are so radically different, I REFUSE to comment on that. Back on topic, I HATE anime where the plot revolves around fanservice, especially of underage girls! It's so demeaning to women!
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Postby Debitt » Mon Aug 15, 2005 6:37 pm

Myoti wrote:Hasn't anyone ever thought that there maybe such a thing as bad voice acting in Japan?

There is - however, I think the fact that the voice actors are chosen by the directors/creators of the original anime cuts down on this substantially. I've heard bad acting in subs and I'veheard bad acting in dubs, but I don't think the dub companies always know the intentions of the original creators.
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Postby Rocketshipper » Mon Aug 15, 2005 6:54 pm

Hasn't anyone ever thought that there maybe such a thing as bad voice acting in Japan?


YEAH! I totally agree!!! The japanese voice actors can't ALWAYS be better than the dub actors.
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Postby heero yuy 95 » Mon Aug 15, 2005 7:44 pm

3.Use of gods name in vain; can't stand it


Ughhh... same here. I especially hate how there is an anime where they don't take God's name in vain in the original sub, but the stupid distributor always adds it in like, a million times. Ugghhhh.... ADV is horrible about this. If it weren't for the fact that they had Robotech and Nadesico, I'd probably hate their guts.

I HATE anime where the plot revolves around fanservice, especially of underage girls! It's so demeaning to women!


Yep, same here. It's bad enough when the mature characters wear suggestive clothing and are put in fanservicey situations, but when it's a little 10-year old girl, that's just plain creepy.
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Postby IZ&Trigun4life » Tue Aug 16, 2005 12:10 pm

Ugh some of the immoral themes.....like the affair between Hideki's friend and the college professor In Chobits, My mom say that and she's all....I don't wantcha readin that. and then theres the plain fanservice....or the magic/supernatural themes that some titles have. It makes it hard to find good titles that my mom will approve of.
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Postby Todeskreuz » Tue Aug 16, 2005 4:35 pm

my pet peeves:
1. annoying lil goody goody girl characters that always get the lead guy (ex. Tohru Honda)
2. excessive cussing for no reason
3. horrible dub VAs (ex. samurai deeper kyo...I converted to just watching sub because of that show)
4. stories that don't end and just make up new plots
5. blatant fanservice
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Postby Starfire1 » Wed Aug 17, 2005 6:13 pm

1. Crappy dubbing
2. Excessive "fanservice", or fanservice at all
3. More crappy dubbing
that's all i can think of at the moment, you guys have gotten a lot of it covered
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Postby Naga Kisaki » Thu Aug 18, 2005 1:27 pm

Basicly, for me, just when shows make light of the occult (Yu-Gi-Oh) becuase, lets face it, the occult is SCARY stuff, not just some powersourse to tap into, it's bad.

And Gore, I can't stand gore.

Sexual things, hentai in shows.

Hero's and villians you can't tell the difference between.

Unexsplained things that just pop up in the middle of a sieres (Vegeta and Bulma's relationship in DBZ, for example.)

Um... That's... pretty much it for me. I'm fairly tolorant.
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Postby Puguni » Thu Aug 18, 2005 1:56 pm

!. Fanservice. Just, no.
@. Wimpy, whiny girls who always rely on the guy. [Miaka.]
#. In the dubbings, they always seem to insert these dumb phrases, like, "It's the end of the line for you," or some other trite unnecessary phrase. The Jap. versions really don't have that...
$. Really confusing plots.
%. Really confusing love...relationship...things. [Ranma.]
^. I don't know about you guys, but excessive use of tired sounds and groanings and grr sounds just irritate me. [DBZ and other action shows.]
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Postby IfIWereAnAsian » Thu Aug 18, 2005 6:42 pm

my anime pet peeves:
~ when characters are drawn poorly/badly in another race [Berserk etc.]
~ when clothing on characters is for no reason strangely slutty, even in comparison to other characters in the anime
~ bad dubs [lack of vocal variation, no emotion, dramatic alteration of the character due to its voice, 2 people for all the female roles etc.]
~ bad subtitles i.e. no caption for 3 minutes then a couple sentences in a second!
~ addition of swear words in English when there aren't any in Japanese
~ super-explaining concepts in English as if we'd never understand/changing storyline
~ anime released under Disney's name just to get released in the US* even though Disney didn't do any animating... [Miyazaki films]
~ a looong series that ends horribly [Evangelion] (with relativism etc.)
~ random and unnecessary nasty scenes
~ bishii guys (really I don't find guys in skirts that look like women attractive)
~ inability to get current animes without fear of bootlegs Xo
~ waaaay expensive anime merchandise in mainstream stores
~ animes upholding terrible values... ick... fortunately manydon't
~ slow obvious blatent fanservice/characters that serve no point other than fanservice
~ remakes of animes or US versions of DVDs that DON'T include the original language tracks!!!! [Astro Boy, ~and not anime but... Jackie Chan, Legend of Drunken Master] really... it's a DVD!
~ creepy old men
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Postby ally-san » Thu Aug 18, 2005 9:20 pm

exaggerated reactions. sometimes its funny sometimes its really dumb.
bad voice overs. i hate dub most of the time.
um lets see, yea poorly drawn anime.
too much cg affects.
girls with over the top ummm...breasts
pervs
girls getting clothes ripped off for no apparent reason
bad endings
trying too hard to be intellectual and ending up just sounding unintelligent instead bogus stories that dont even sound remotely real
mainstream anime that is all drawn the same
and the fact that there arent very many interesting series out right now
i think thats all i can think of for now
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Postby Kura Ookami » Fri Aug 19, 2005 12:23 am

My pet peeves? Let's see.

Characters that die and then come back again (DBZ)
Fights that drag on and on and on(DBZ)
Excessive fanservice meaning more than Ikkitousen. (Eiken)
A storyline that is based around meximizing fanservice. (Eiken)
Too much cussing. (Hellsing)

Now i think about it Ikkitousen is the only anime that i watch that has more than an average level of fanservice.
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Postby Debitt » Fri Aug 19, 2005 1:29 am

- overly rabid fans. I know I'm a bit Sakura Kinoshita obsessive, but I swear I'll never try to eat someone alive for not hailing Tactics as the best anime in existance.

- story lines that try to make abuse look "cool" or "funny". I realize in some series torture/etc. can be used as a meaningful plot device (Now and Then, Here and There for example), but I've noticed too many series where abuse is played on for "laughs". It's absolutely disgusting.

- altering the speech of a character in an inconcievable manner. While it's not anime, the first volume of the Get Backers manga had Ginji and Ban talking like gangsta dawgs. I also shudder to think about what might happen to any character who speaks Osaka-ben in the Japanese.

- inconsistency in translations/dubs. Speaking of Osaka, I'm annoyed that her accent isn't consistent between the Azumanga Daioh manga and anime. I also beg that in dubs you pronounce characters names consistently so that I can maintain my sanity.
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