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Postby Alice » Sun May 22, 2005 5:00 am

Well, nevermind about it having to be fit for my younger brother. He's not interested. Nope, Giant Robo was not enough to get him into anime. (At least not the first episode.)

To tell the truth I'm not sorry. It's easier to find things that are indecent than decent, so if he became a rabid fan at his age I'd be worried. Sorry, but that's the truth. He watches a lot of sports, generally more wholesome (and boring) to my view of things. (Wonder if that offends anyone? Sports people? Anime people? Please don't hurt me! I'm just blabbering!!)

Well, he does watch professional wrestling, too. Anime's probably not too filthy for him (at least some), but I'm not going to try to convert him. Not yet.
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Postby Alice » Mon May 23, 2005 9:23 pm

I watched the first episode again with the original english dub. I like Ivan's voice much better, but I didn't think Ginray (sp?) was as good. She sounded much angrier. Anyway. ...Don't know.

Now I'm off to hopefully watch the 2nd ep with my bro.

Promise to tell you people what I think... whether you want me to or not. :)
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Postby Joshua Christopher » Mon May 23, 2005 9:28 pm

Alice wrote:I watched the first episode again with the original english dub. I like Ivan's voice much better, but I didn't think Ginray (sp?) was as good. She sounded much angrier. Anyway. ...Don't know.

Now I'm off to hopefully watch the 2nd ep with my bro.

Promise to tell you people what I think... whether you want me to or not. :)


*Ginrei, or Gin-Rei.

Hurray, more (hopefully) GR fans! : D

Trust me, you absolutely have to watch all 7 episodes in order to really "get" the series.

Both dubs are a mixed bag. Some voices are good (Chuujo's) and some are awful (Murasame's).
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Postby Ichigo_89 » Tue May 24, 2005 6:29 am

I noticed that Daisaku's voice changes. About after the second episode I believe, or maybe during the second half of episode 3? Something like that...
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Postby Alice » Tue May 24, 2005 7:14 am

Impact Alberto wrote:*Ginrei, or Gin-Rei.

Hurray, more (hopefully) GR fans! : D

Trust me, you absolutely have to watch all 7 episodes in order to really "get" the series.

Both dubs are a mixed bag. Some voices are good (Chuujo's) and some are awful (Murasame's).

I'd be glad to rent and watch episode three today, but my brother and I kind of agreed ahead of time to rent Fruits Baskets over my BD week, and watch as much of that as we could. (Someone at the video store packaged the whole series together.)

However, I can't wait to see the rest. I hope there's more character motivation gone into. I'll probably buy the third DVD with birthday money. (They don't have it at the video rental store.)

I see resemblances to G Gundam, whether they're real or not. (The horse. The guy with the beads.)

Which one is Chuujo?
Is the Frenchman's voice that bad?

Uh, that's all I can think to say. Kinda tired...
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Postby Joshua Christopher » Tue May 24, 2005 9:30 am

Alice wrote:I'd be glad to rent and watch episode three today, but my brother and I kind of agreed ahead of time to rent Fruits Baskets over my BD week, and watch as much of that as we could. (Someone at the video store packaged the whole series together.)

However, I can't wait to see the rest. I hope there's more character motivation gone into. I'll probably buy the third DVD with birthday money. (They don't have it at the video rental store.)

I see resemblances to G Gundam, whether they're real or not. (The horse. The guy with the beads.)

Which one is Chuujo?
Is the Frenchman's voice that bad?

Uh, that's all I can think to say. Kinda tired...


Believe me, you will enjoy the rest. I was a bit underwhelmed with the first few episodes, but if you've liked what you've seen thus far, you will totally adore the rest.

The guy with the beads is Issie.
Chuujo is the leader of The Experts, the guy with the pipe.

It's not really the French accent, but why would a Japanese character, Kenji Murasame, have a French accent? LUNACY!
(I have attached a picture of Chief Chuujo.)
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Postby Alice » Tue May 24, 2005 7:33 pm

Yeah, well if it keeps getting better, not worse, I'll probably love it!

Okay, I recognize the guy with the pipe. I just didn't know his name.

Oh, I figured Murasame was supposed to be French, and they just gave him a Japanese name. (Sometimes people do that in shows. I didn't pay any mind.) He does look sorta French. Sorta.

I really like the music. But sometimes it obscured the words. (Lots of DVDs seem to do that, though.)

The only boring part of the episode, I thought, was all the catch-up at the beginning.

Anyway, I'm sure I'll continue to give a long, boring blow by blow of what I think of the show.
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Postby Joshua Christopher » Tue May 24, 2005 7:44 pm

Alice wrote:Yeah, well if it keeps getting better, not worse, I'll probably love it!

Okay, I recognize the guy with the pipe. I just didn't know his name.

Oh, I figured Murasame was supposed to be French, and they just gave him a Japanese name. (Sometimes people do that in shows. I didn't pay any mind.) He does look sorta French. Sorta.

I really like the music. But sometimes it obscured the words. (Lots of DVDs seem to do that, though.)

The only boring part of the episode, I thought, was all the catch-up at the beginning.

Anyway, I'm sure I'll continue to give a long, boring blow by blow of what I think of the show.


The soundtrack is widely considered to be one of the best ever. I have the entire first CD (If you have AIM, I can send it).

The reason for the digest of episode one at the beginning is simple... Giant Robo took about 6 to 8 years to be finished, and there was roughly a year in between episodes, so they had to add in some recap.

And it's not boring to me, because I hardly ever get to gush about GR, since hardly anyone has seen it. Aside from myself, ZIPO, and now you.

Keep on truckin'.
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Postby Alice » Wed May 25, 2005 9:35 am

Impact Alberto wrote:The soundtrack is widely considered to be one of the best ever. I have the entire first CD (If you have AIM, I can send it).

Actually I don't know what AIM is. Is that a kind of instant messenger?

The reason for the digest of episode one at the beginning is simple... Giant Robo took about 6 to 8 years to be finished, and there was roughly a year in between episodes, so they had to add in some recap.


Yeah, I figured it was something like that, but since I'd rewatched the first episode only an hour or so, I thought it was quite boring. :)

And it's not boring to me, because I hardly ever get to gush about GR, since hardly anyone has seen it. Aside from myself, ZIPO, and now you.

Keep on truckin'.

Truckin' :lol: Yep.
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Postby Joshua Christopher » Thu May 26, 2005 1:13 pm

Alice wrote:Actually I don't know what AIM is. Is that a kind of instant messenger?



Yeah, I figured it was something like that, but since I'd rewatched the first episode only an hour or so, I thought it was quite boring. :)


Truckin' :lol: Yep.



AIM is AOL Instant Messenger. You don't need AOL to use it, thank God. Many of the members here use AIM, I'd suggest getting it.

Update when you see more episodes, the poop is going to start hitting the fan real soon.
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Postby Alice » Thu May 26, 2005 4:02 pm

Thanks for the explanation. (I'm not quite technologically illiterate... but... close.)

Uh oh -- hitting the fan??

Well, I won't get to see anymore until, let's see, tuesday or wednesday. I was in the video store today with my taller brother and quoting lines about the beautiful night ;) and he was like, "what?"

I watched a few minutes of the commentary on the first disc. Interesting.

But... is it my imagination, or were the lines completely different in the dubs on the second episode? (Especially the second half?)
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Postby Ichigo_89 » Fri May 27, 2005 10:14 am

[quote="Alice"]Thanks for the explanation. (I'm not quite technologically illiterate... but... close.)

Uh oh -- hitting the fan??

Well, I won't get to see anymore until, let's see, tuesday or wednesday. I was in the video store today with my taller brother and quoting lines about the beautiful night ]
It is true that dubs change the original japanese scripts in some ways. But I dunno about it being COMPLETELY changed. LOL about you quoting...
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Postby Alice » Fri May 27, 2005 4:00 pm

Yeah, I can be a real nut about any series I like.

That's why it's important for me to read reviews about things first. :sweat:

That way I don't get into something I'll regret later.
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Postby Alice » Wed Jun 01, 2005 1:23 pm

Well, I watched the third episode with my taller brother last night. ^-^

It seemed too short! (Probably because all weekend we were watching lots of stuff, and yesternight we watched only one short episode.)

I just want to know what happens now!

Anyway, in other news, great subs, Impact. :thumb:
I knew you lived in Florida, but I didn't know you owned a pizza shop up Nawth with "Alberto's" in the title. :lol:
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Postby Joshua Christopher » Wed Jun 01, 2005 2:48 pm

Alice wrote:Well, I watched the third episode with my taller brother last night. ^-^

It seemed too short! (Probably because all weekend we were watching lots of stuff, and yesternight we watched only one short episode.)

I just want to know what happens now!

Anyway, in other news, great subs, Impact. :thumb:
I knew you lived in Florida, but I didn't know you owned a pizza shop up Nawth with "Alberto's" in the title. :lol:


Yes, this episode was only 40 minutes. Episodes 3, 4, 5, and 6 are all 40 minutes, but episode 7 is an hour of awesomeness.

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Postby Alice » Wed Jun 01, 2005 6:14 pm

Yay!

If you get the chance, SirThinks2Much, let everyone know what you think.

Um, I meant that in a good way. :sweat:

EDIT: This just in: Episode Four ROCKED.
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Postby Maledicte » Thu Jun 02, 2005 11:23 pm

it...seems that I've been expected...

I bought it, yup. Initially I planned to watch 1 ep a night, like the show says, for 7 days....

Once I started Disc 3 I couldn't stop. XD

Currently, I am re-watching the entire series, this time in the original English dub. (sub rocked!!) I adore the original dub. Hanzui's voice in the dub is my fave. I dETEST the new dub (the guy who does Yami Yugi as GENYA!?!? what were they THINKING!?!? don't get me started)

Fave character(s): eh...Hanzui, Genya, Youshi and of course, Lord Alberto the Impact (in the dub he's "Shocking Alberto" and in the new dub he's just "alberto"...GOSH)

Fave scene(s): the finale, and the destruction of Paris

Fave music...bit...thing...: the Baroque-esque thing played right before Alberto and Taiso duke it out for the second time.

That's all for now! Thanks IA!
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Postby Joshua Christopher » Fri Jun 03, 2005 8:54 am

SirThinks2Much wrote:it...seems that I've been expected...

I bought it, yup. Initially I planned to watch 1 ep a night, like the show says, for 7 days....

Once I started Disc 3 I couldn't stop. XD

Currently, I am re-watching the entire series, this time in the original English dub. (sub rocked!!) I adore the original dub. Hanzui's voice in the dub is my fave. I dETEST the new dub (the guy who does Yami Yugi as GENYA!?!? what were they THINKING!?!? don't get me started)

Fave character(s): eh...Hanzui, Genya, Youshi and of course, Lord Alberto the Impact (in the dub he's "Shocking Alberto" and in the new dub he's just "alberto"...GOSH)

Fave scene(s): the finale, and the destruction of Paris

Fave music...bit...thing...: the Baroque-esque thing played right before Alberto and Taiso duke it out for the second time.

That's all for now! Thanks IA!



Yay, I am so thrilled that you liked it!! I think more and more people are starting to understadn that I'm *NOT* crazy and Giant Robo really *IS* awesome!

My favourite scene... welll... I can't say... but it's in the last episode and involves Alberto.
And Chujo's thing at the end of ep 6/start of ep 7.
Also, Tetsugyu's stand against Genya in the 5th episode.
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Postby Alice » Sat Jun 04, 2005 1:48 pm

I watched episodes three through five with the original dub yesterday evening. They were cool, but I think I liked the newer dub better on those episodes.

I thought they had a little bit of fast talking to fit everything in, the way they did on Speed Racer. And I didn't like the kid's voice as much.

I liked Ivan's voice in the first two episodes in the original dub. Awesome.

I haven't seen any in subtitles so I can't complain about that at least. ^-^

Awesome that you saw it all already, SirThinks2Much! That's cool.
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Postby Maledicte » Mon Jun 06, 2005 11:42 am

some random ramblings considering the original dub...

-Some of the VA's also perform in the series Blackjack, and like the nerd that I am, I could recognize a couple:

Sunny was voiced by the same girl who did Pinoco. Both characters look similar.
Genya was voiced by a priest/spy in Blackjack, and both characters have similar bangs. I wasn't too thrilled with his voice, but at least he had the "evil laugh" down.
The guy who did The fAbulous Fitzgerald also provided the voice for a sleazy tabloid reporter.
In the final episode, chuujo's voice was replaced by that of Blackjack himself, making Chuujo even more cooler than he already is.
The red mask guy's voice is the same as Dr. Kitigo's voice in Blackjack. I think he'd have done a better job as Genya, but then...so could a lot of people.

-Murasame's voice got changed in the final episode. Either that or his voice was just muffled by that force field...kinda doubt it though.

-So did Daisaku's voice in disc 2.

-is Ivan Russian or German? 'cause his name is Russian but his accent is German.

-Same thing with Von Vogler. His accent shifts from German to French at the drop of a hat.

-There's a lot of cussing in this dub. A shame, because other than that the writing was real tight.

-Funniest line in the dub: "Please don't have an aneurism." ~ Komei

-Favorite VA's: Alberto, Ginrei, Taiso, Chuujo, Hanzui.

I'm going to watch it with the new dub now...just as an excuse to watch it again XD

BEST SCENE: the boxing match.
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Postby Alice » Mon Jun 06, 2005 8:40 pm

Oh, I loved Ivan's voice in the original! It was just nutty enough to make me laugh -- constantly.

It's... like... *I* could have done.... except just slightly better. ;)

I'll have to look forward to the boxing match. I should be getting my DVD soon!

Yes, I noticed the cussing too. What's with that, I wonder? Well, sometimes companies do that.
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Postby Alice » Tue Jun 07, 2005 6:02 pm

I know I'm double posting, but I think this warrants it.

I just got an manga called "Gigantor." It looked sorta fun, and it was marked down.

Anyway, I looked through and I was shocked. It ... it looks kinda like Giant Robo. I mean, there's a guy with Murasame hair (and I mean, "Murasame hair!" It's exactly the same.) There is, of course, the requisite kid who controls the robot. But there's *also* a guy with a moustache and something metallic-looking over his eye. And on about the seventh page there are people wearing the Big Fire mask.

So, I checked the authors: Ben Dunn, David Hutchinson, Ted Nomura. And copyrighted 2003. But... in the back was a page of writing by the person who invented the robot story, after WWII, in the 60s I believe.

So.... I checked online, and found out something about the animation. But, that doesn't explain why there is a "new" Gigantor manga (when it was originally written as a manga). Nor does it tell me if the "new" authors just copied Giant Robo, or if they copied the original manga.

I'm hoping someone knows! Please tell me if you do.

Sorry for the discombobulation of this post, but... I need to know! :(
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Postby Joshua Christopher » Tue Jun 07, 2005 6:13 pm

Alice wrote:I know I'm double posting, but I think this warrants it.

I just got an manga called "Gigantor." It looked sorta fun, and it was marked down.

Anyway, I looked through and I was shocked. It ... it looks kinda like Giant Robo. I mean, there's a guy with Murasame hair (and I mean, "Murasame hair!" It's exactly the same.) There is, of course, the requisite kid who controls the robot. But there's *also* a guy with a moustache and something metallic-looking over his eye. And on about the seventh page there are people wearing the Big Fire mask.

So, I checked the authors: Ben Dunn, David Hutchinson, Ted Nomura. And copyrighted 2003. But... in the back was a page of writing by the person who invented the robot story, after WWII, in the 60s I believe.

So.... I checked online, and found out something about the animation. But, that doesn't explain why there is a "new" Gigantor manga (when it was originally written as a manga). Nor does it tell me if the "new" authors just copied Giant Robo, or if they copied the original manga.

I'm hoping someone knows! Please tell me if you do.

Sorry for the discombobulation of this post, but... I need to know! :(



First thing: Please tell me where you got this, I need it. Badly.

Gigantor was by Mitsuteru Yokoyama. Yasuhiro Imagawa originally went to Yokoyama and asked him if he could use all of his characters in an original story. Yokoyama said yes, so Imagawa went into all of his old manga and pulled characters he liked to create the series.

The new Gigantor anime has Murasame, Shizuma, and Von Vogler in it.

The guys with the BF masks are Q Agents, Yokoyama used them in many different stories... I'll have to go find the website (it's in Japanese), but it has pictures of all of the GR characters from their original comics.
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Postby Alice » Tue Jun 07, 2005 6:28 pm

Okay, I got it at a comic store. It says "The Collected Gigantor vol. 1"

Story and art by Ben Dunn, Ted Noruma, David Hutchinson
2003 Entercolor Technologies
Published by Sentai Studios
Originally published by Antarctic Press
First Printing

(There are some errors on the title page, extra spaces. I think it was put together from things in a magazine. I remember seeing one of the frames in a magazine one time. Probably, uh, from Antarctic Press.)

Sorry I can't help more. I couldn't find an ISBN. Although there was something about it on Amazon, I didn't see the exact title. So it may only be a limited release. I think there's *something* about Gigantor by these people coming out there soon, however. I'll edit the link in later, if that'll help.

The back says Sentai Studios Graphic Novel and the original cost was $14.95 US / $20.00 Can.

I suppose it looks sorta American... but until I looked at the authors I didn't know it wasn't old Japanese. (But then I don't always know stuff like that anyway.)

I'm glad to hear that about the characters. It is a relief of mind!

EDIT: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/1932453997/qid=1118194428/sr=1-1/ref=sr_1_1/104-8176893-9379962?v=glance&s=books
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Postby Alice » Tue Jun 28, 2005 8:18 pm

Well, I received and watched the third GR DVD yesterday. :thumb:

There were a few things I didn't like about it.

In general, I enjoyed it, and I still like the characters a lot.

My favorite character is still Go. (Partly because I just like him, partly because, well, I know what it's like to cry too much. >.> Ahem. Anyway, I don't think I've ever seen a character in anime with a personality like that. And he wasn't played like a total idiot.)

I don't know what my favorite scene was. :(

Looking back, I see that... man, I've really spammed a lot in this thread! :sweat:

EDIT: I really think they should make a novel about Giant Robo. It is complex enough for it. And they would be able to explain some of the more confusing bits, and tell what the characters are thinking. They could even give it a different title, if they wanted to. It is certainly complex enough.
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