Batcave Redemption Radio - My Gothic, Industrial, and Darkwave Internet Radio Station

[GhostontheNet]

I would like to welcome anyone interested to my Internet Radio Station, Batcave Redemption Radio, which focuses on Gothic, Industrial, and Darkwave music. The station can be accessed by clicking on the following link to the streams: Batcave Redemption Radio (If the link doesn't work, right click and choose "Save Target As"), or alternately you can access it through Shoutcast at http://www.shoutcast.com/directory/?s=batcave . For those unaware of these genres, Gothic and Darkwave music seeks to revive the dark romanticism of authors like Edgar Allen Poe through music that is dark, melancholy, and a little spooky, but also very ethereal, romantic, and beautiful, while Industrial consists of chanted social criticism in the midst of electronic music that evokes the feeling of factories or war zones. My playlists represent a careful balance between the best both the Christian and Secular bands in these genres have to offer, though my own Christian views and background in areas like theology have dictated my selections throughout. I hope some of you will enjoy it.

[GhostontheNet]

Also, I would welcome any questions, comments, requests to add new CDs to the playlists, or anything else related to the streams in this thread.

[GhostontheNet]

With the kind permission of Mithrandir, I have edited the initial post to provide a direct link to access the station.

[GhostontheNet]

I've noticed in recent threads an increased interest in Dark Alternative Underground genres that I broadcast on my station. Therefore, I'm going to raise this old thread of mine from the dead to post the playlist. Althought its been a year since I posted this thread, these days the station has expanded to broadcasting Gothic, Industrial, Darkwave, Post-Punk, New Wave, and Electro music.

Now Playing On Batcave Redemption Radio

Saviour Machine - Saviour Machine I,
Saviour Machine - Saviour Machine II,
Clan of Xymox - Clan of Xymox,
The Awakening - Sacrificial Etchings,
Front242 - Front By Front,
Skinny Puppy - The Singles Collect,
Leper - Kreischen,
Rasputina - Transylvanian Regurgitations,
The Sisters of Mercy - First and Last and Always,
Cleopatra Records - Gothik,
Beauty For Ashes - My Secret Sin,
The Cure - Disintegration,
Lycia - Estrella,
Switchblade Symphony - Sinister Nostalgia,
RED+TEST - The Fall of Man,
Cold Fusion Records - Moonlight Cathedral,
Cold Fusion Records - Lunar Eclipse,
Joy Division - Permanent,
Nick Cave & the Bad Seeds - The Best of Nick Cave & the Bad Seeds,
Alien Sex Fiend - The Singles 1983-1995,
Lycia - The Burning Circle and then Dust,
Front Line Assembly - Artificial Soldier,
Front Line Assembly - Civilization,
Front Line Assembly - Maniacal,
Front Line Assembly - Vanished,
Simple Shelter - A Phoenix From the Ashes,
The Echoing Green - The Winter of Our Discontent,
The Echoing Green - The Evergreen Collection,
Bella Morte - Bleed The Grey Sky Black,
Dead Can Dance - A Passage in Time,
Rasputina - The Lost & Found,
Evanescence - Evanescence,
Evanescence - Sound Asleep,
Faith & the Muse - Evidence of Heaven,
Batzz in the Belfry - Sparks Fly Upwards,
Snog - Snog Vs. the Massive Faecal Juggernaut of Mass Culture,
Skinny Puppy - Too Dark Park,
The Sisters of Mercy - Floodland,
Audio Paradox - The Iniquity of Time,
Christian Death - Death Club 1981-1993,
Eva O - Demons Fall For an Angels Kiss,
Faith & the Muse - Annwyn, Beneath the Waves,
Voltaire - Then and Again,
Faith & Disease - Beneath the Trees,
Dead Can Dance - Into the Labyrinth,
Switchblade Symphony - Serpentine Gallery,
Joy Division - Closer,
Project Pitchfork - Chakra:Red,
Siouxsie & the Banshees - The Best of Siouxsie & the Banshees,
Batzz in the Belfry - Batzz in the Belfry,
Dead Artist Syndrome - Devils, Angels & Saints,
Dead Can Dance - Memento,
Front242 - Mut@ge Mix@ge,
Visionaire - Within the Arcanum Hall,
Collide - Chasing the Ghost,
Paradoxx - New Devotion,
Black Tape for a Blue Girl - Remnants of a Deeper Purity,
Mentallo & the Fixer - Where Angels Fear to Tread,
Mentallo & the Fixer - Love is the Law,
Frolic - To Dream, Perchance to Sleep,
Cybershadow - The Birth of the Future,
Lacrimosa - Inferno,
Evanescence - Origin,
ThouShaltNot - You'll Wake Up Yesterday,
KMFDM - Money,
Autovoice - A Living Death,
Noise Unit - Voyeur,
Mentallo & the Fixer - Commandments For the Molecular Age,
Stromkern - Armageddon,
Lycia - A Day in the Stark Corner,
Asleep By Dawn Magazine - DJ Ferret's Underground Club Mix #1,
Asleep By Dawn Magazine - DJ Ferret's Underground Club Mix #2,
The Last Dance - Now & Forever After,
The Last Dance - Once Beautiful,
Screaming For Emily - Malice,
Ministry - Early Trax,
Stromkern - Reminders,
Bauhaus - Crackle,
Skinny Puppy - B-Sides Collect,
Skinny Puppy - The Greater Wrong of the Right,
Skinny Puppy - Mythmaker,
ThouShaltNot - The Holiness of Now,
ThouShaltNot - The White Beyond,
TrueTunes Music - We the Living Volume Three,
Dead Artist Syndrome - Happy Hour,
Front Line Assembly - The Best of Cryogenic Studios,
Clan of Xymox - Farewell,
Clan of Xymox - Breaking Point,
ThouShaltNot - Land Dispute,
Front Line Assembly - Implode,
Front Line Assembly - Epitaph,
Siouxsie & the Banshees - Juju,
Star Industry - Velvet,
Front Line Assembly - Everything Must Perish,
Mentallo & the Fixer - Return to Grimpen Ward,
Mentallo & the Fixer - Burnt Beyond Recognition,
Mentallo & the Fixer - False Prophets,
The Awakening - Ethereal Menace,
Tearwave - Tearwave,
Stromkern - Light it Up,
45 Grave - Sleep in Safety,
Projekt Records - A Cat Shaped Hole in My Heart,
Projekt Records - The Projekt Almost Free Record,
Cocteau Twins - The BBC Sessions,
The Cure - Faith,
Red Lipstick Death - Battle for Blood,
Leper - Nameless,
Collide - Vortex,
Prodigal Brothers w/ Chris Lindsay - Scream Justice,
How to Avoid Art - How to Avoid Art,
Paradoxx - Atomika,
Jihad - Dora Blue,
Jihad - A Prayer In The Night,
Stromkern - Stand Up,
mewithoutYou - Catch For Us The Foxes,
Adom9 - Deluge,
New Order - Low Life,
Redemption - Home,
Spiritual Bats - Sacrament,
Covenant - Skyshaper,
Benestrophe - Auric Fires,
Benestrophe - Sensory Deprivation,
The Cure - Pornography,
Wedding Party - Anthems,
I-Dragon-I - I-Dragon-I,
Killing Joke - Revelations,
Headnoise - For Now We Know: In Part 1,
Headnoise - 99 and Wanting,
Tears for the Dying - EP III,
RED+TEST - A Battle For Souls,
RED+TEST - Inhuman,
Siouxsie - Mantaray,
Dagavaq - Dagavaq,
Faith & The Muse - The Burning Season,
Bella Morte - As The Reasons Die,
Specimen - Electric Ballroom,
London After Midnight - Violent Acts of Beauty,
Tragic Black - The Decadent Requiem,
All Gone Dead - Fallen & Forgotten,
Talking Heads - Stop Making Sense,
Mad At The World - Mad At The World,
Joy Electric - CHRISTIANsongs,
Globalwavesystem - Life Equals Death,
Globalwavesystem - HypercriteP,
Zombina & The Skeletones - Halloween 2007 EP,
Enkil's Eye - Sad,
Joy Division - Unknown Pleasures,
Cocteau Twins - Lullabies To Violaine (Volume 1),
Cocteau Twins - Lullabies To Violaine (Volume 2),
Clan Of Xymox - Twist Of Shadows,
Lycia - Empty Space,
David Bowie - Low,
Devo - Devo Live 1980,
Gang Of Four - Return The Gift,
mewithoutYou - Brother, Sister,
U2 - War,
Scarlet's Remains - The Palest Grey,
David Bowie - Reality,
Delerium - Karma,
Delerium - Poem,
Delerium - Nuages Du Monde,
Blue Stone - Worlds Apart,
The Cruxshadows - DreamCypher,
The Cruxshadows - Sophia,
The Brothers Martin - The Brothers Martin,
The Echoing Green - Songs of Innocence & Experience : Hope and Science,
The Echoing Green - The Story Of Our Lives,
AFI - Sing The Sorrow,
Delerium - Chimera,
Cell Division - Chymeia,
Front Line Assembly - Tactical Neural Implant,
Front Line Assembly - Millenium,
Brian Eno & David Byrne - My Life in the Bush of Ghosts,
Talking Heads - Remain In Light,
The Awakening - The Fountain,
Psalters - Divine Liturgy of the Wretched Exiles,
The Eternal Chapter - The Eternal Chapter,
Azam Ali - Elysium for the Brave,
The Police - Ghost In The Machine,
Lycia - Tripping Back Into The Broken Days,

[HiddenWoodchuck]

Sweet, I see you have Saviour Machine on the playlist. I may have to give a listen sometime! I see a few on there that I know and like.

[GhostontheNet]

Sweet, I see you have Saviour Machine on the playlist. I may have to give a listen sometime! I see a few on there that I know and like.

Yeah, Saviour Machine is a brilliant example of Gothic Metal (i.e. Progressive Metal + Gothic Rock) in the vein of acts like Lacrimosa. Their lead singer, Eric Clayton, has both a remarkably powerful voice and profound theological and musical knowledge that makes their music quite special. The music itself is like a Wagnerian epic of apocalyptic hope. The lyrics are even written in didactic pentameter form to make them absolutely unforgetable. What other bands do you see that you like?

[GrubbTheFragger]

Sweet deal. I see some good bands on the list. AFI, saviour machine, Echoning greenm, may i suggest a band if so you should take a gander and Mortal. I didn't see there name on the list at all

[GhostontheNet]

Sweet deal. I see some good bands on the list. AFI, saviour machine, Echoning greenm, may i suggest a band if so you should take a gander and Mortal. I didn't see there name on the list at all

Yep, I reckon them there bands are pretty good, myself. I went and took that gander at Mortal, and they be Industrial musicians more potent than uncle John's moonshine, which is saying something.

[HiddenWoodchuck]

Yeah, Saviour Machine is a brilliant example of Gothic Metal (i.e. Progressive Metal + Gothic Rock) in the vein of acts like Lacrimosa. Their lead singer, Eric Clayton, has both a remarkably powerful voice and profound theological and musical knowledge that makes their music quite special. The music itself is like a Wagnerian epic of apocalyptic hope. The lyrics are even written in didactic pentameter form to make them absolutely unforgetable. What other bands do you see that you like?

Yeah, I agree with all you said. The music really is unforgettable. I have been a big supporter of their music for a while. I just came across the music by random one day, several years back, and I loved it. Some of the others I see on there, that I like are: Evanescence, The Echoing Green, mewithoutYou, Joy Electric and I-Dragon-I. I like a couple songs by Skinny Puppy. I don't think I know any of the others yet.

I have a couple suggestions... not specifically for the radio, but that you may like to listen to. I dunno, you may have heard of these bands, but thought I would see. These are myspace pages that you can listen to the music on:
http://www.myspace.com/ever - http://www.myspace.com/lunarclick
http://www.myspace.com/centurysleeper - http://www.myspace.com/cosyns - http://www.myspace.com/deltas

[GhostontheNet]

Yeah, I agree with all you said. The music really is unforgettable. I have been a big supporter of their music for a while. I just came across the music by random one day, several years back, and I loved it. Some of the others I see on there, that I like are: Evanescence, The Echoing Green, mewithoutYou, Joy Electric and I-Dragon-I. I like a couple songs by Skinny Puppy. I don't think I know any of the others yet.

I have a couple suggestions... not specifically for the radio, but that you may like to listen to. I dunno, you may have heard of these bands, but thought I would see. These are myspace pages that you can listen to the music on:
http://www.myspace.com/ever - http://www.myspace.com/lunarclick
http://www.myspace.com/centurysleeper - http://www.myspace.com/cosyns - http://www.myspace.com/deltas

Yeah, I like those bands a lot myself, which is why I broadcast them. Skinny Puppy has something of a steeper learning curve than most musicians. The very first time I hear any of their albums, they make me freak out really bad because they sound so dark, chaotic, and spooky. Repeat listens, however, make me realize the hidden structures of the songs, and the music becomes incredibly helpful in releasing the worst emotional tensions and feelings of loss of control wrought by the concrete jungle. As to the bands you recommended:

Ever - I've been aware of Ever from some of the earliest days I got into Gothic music through the Midnight Cathedral compilation. While they're very good, I've mostly been thirsting for other bands' music for one reason or another. I'll probably pick them up in time.
Lunarclick - Not a bad Electro-Goth band. My station aims to revive the more Old-school Goth sound though, so I'm not terribly likely to play them.
Centurysleeper - This is what happens when you take brilliant guitar work and add in a fairly lame Goth vocalist. This band will be incredible when their vocalist improves or when they replace him.
Cosyns - That is some really potent Progressive Metal!
Delta-S - I've been aware of Delta-S since my early days of getting into Gothic and related music genres when ChristianIndustrial.net was as important to me as my station seems to be to some of my listeners. They're pretty good, though maybe just a bit risque at points.

[HiddenWoodchuck]

Yeah, I like those bands a lot myself, which is why I broadcast them. Skinny Puppy has something of a steeper learning curve than most musicians. The very first time I hear any of their albums, they make me freak out really bad because they sound so dark, chaotic, and spooky. Repeat listens, however, make me realize the hidden structures of the songs, and the music becomes incredibly helpful in releasing the worst emotional tensions and feelings of loss of control wrought by the concrete jungle. As to the bands you recommended:

Ever - I've been aware of Ever from some of the earliest days I got into Gothic music through the Midnight Cathedral compilation. While they're very good, I've mostly been thirsting for other bands' music for one reason or another. I'll probably pick them up in time.
Lunarclick - Not a bad Electro-Goth band. My station aims to revive the more Old-school Goth sound though, so I'm not terribly likely to play them.
Centurysleeper - This is what happens when you take brilliant guitar work and add in a fairly lame Goth vocalist. This band will be incredible when their vocalist improves or when they replace him.
Cosyns - That is some really potent Progressive Metal!
Delta-S - I've been aware of Delta-S since my early days of getting into Gothic and related music genres when ChristianIndustrial.net was as important to me as my station seems to be to some of my listeners. They're pretty good, though maybe just a bit risque at points.

I do kinda see what you mean about the vocalist for Centurysleeper, but I just like the sound so much I can put up with it... haha. I'm all over the place with music I like, as far as the genre goes, so I have tons and tons of bands I like, but I have been wanting to find more like these. I play guitar myself, just as a hobby, so I like stuff that inspires me to play... I don't know a lot of Industrial bands though... with decent lyrics. I'd like to find some more!

[chibiphonebooth]

it made me happy to see rasputina and mewithoutyou on there.

mwy is my fave band of all time.

[GhostontheNet]

I just added the following to the playlist:

Cult Of Jester - Funkatron
Higher Love - Higher Love

Cult Of Jester plays mean and funky Old-school Industrial that draws heavily on Hip-Hop music to deal with themes of urban violence and spiritual liberation. Higher Love, meanwhile, is a fresh band that delivers Old-school Gothic music that conjures the strange otherworldliness of snowy days and the claustrophobic alienating effect of city lights beneath the neon sky.

[Danderson]

Know any Christian goth rockers that sound similar to Evanescence, Nightwish, and/or Within Temptation? With the amazing and sometimes haunting orchestrations along with great rocking anthems?....

[GhostontheNet]

Know any Christian goth rockers that sound similar to Evanescence, Nightwish, and/or Within Temptation? With the amazing and sometimes haunting orchestrations along with great rocking anthems?....

I'll assume that since half of your bands are actually Symphonic Metal acts that you're looking for musicians that fuse Gothic rock with Progressive Metal (Gothic Metal) with perhaps just a bit of Industrial influence (as seen in Evanescence). Several albums come to mind.

The Awakening - Razor Burn
Saviour Machine - Saviour Machine II
Virgin Black - Elegant...And Dying
Undish - A Gift Of Flying
Visionaire - Within The Arcanum Hall

[Eric]

I think Blut aus Nord would fit in rather well, though they aren't very similar musically to what you already have on it. You'll see what I mean when you hear them. You can stream their newest cd here.


http://www.mp3.com/artist/blut-aus-nord/summary/


I would particularly recommend their cd MoRT, though there is nowhere you can listen to it online. It is even more obtuse and suffocating than Odinist (it is also more experimental than all their other albums comparatively). They create some of the darkest and most oppressive atmospheres I've ever heard, and are utterly unique as well.

[Doubleshadow]

I love that play list you have provided. When I have time to fully appreciate it, I start listening again.

And it's nice to know I'm not the only one who likes the Echoing Green and Delerium.

[Eric]

You should also look into getting some Godflesh.

[GhostontheNet]

I just added two new CDs to the playlist:

The Machine In The Garden - XV
The Awakening - The Fourth Seal Of Zeen

[Doubleshadow]

I finally found time to listen. Oh, I think I'm in love, and I'm not prone to hyperbole or expressing empty sentimentality. This is most excellent. The only downside is I can't listen to it while studying or during homework because half my brain will be dissecting and analyzing the songs.

[GhostontheNet]

I finally found time to listen. Oh, I think I'm in love, and I'm not prone to hyperbole or expressing empty sentimentality. This is most excellent. The only downside is I can't listen to it while studying or during homework because half my brain will be dissecting and analyzing the songs.

Golly, thanks. Its good to hear I have another kindred spirit musically. I really don't recommend my station for studying or doing homework, where you have to sync with somebody else's ideas. For stimulating creative thought of your own, however, I would strongly suggest it.

[GhostontheNet]

I forgot to mention, but I have set up a Myspace for the station at http://www.myspace.com/batcaveredemption . Anyone interested is welcome to check it out, look and listen to band profiles, and send me a friend request.

[ich1990]

I have just started listening to gothic and industrial music (mostly through christianindustrial.com and your radio station). It has been a little extreme for me, but I am starting to get used to it. Anyhow, I have listened to and researched all the christian goth/metal/opera/industrial bands I have found. I hope to find a good cd to buy when I have the cash. What would you reccommend as a good starter christian goth/metal/opera/industrial album?

So far, the two most promising bands are Saviour Machine (I like the 'Soundtrack to the end of the world' theme of their legend series) and Virgin Black (I like what little of their cd Requiem: Mezzo Forte that I have listened to.). Which of these bands/cds would you recommend? Are there other, better christian bands from this genre that I am missing?

Thanks in advance.

[GrubbTheFragger]

I have just started listening to gothic and industrial music (mostly through christianindustrial.com and your radio station). It has been a little extreme for me, but I am starting to get used to it. Anyhow, I have listened to and researched all the christian goth/metal/opera/industrial bands I have found. I hope to find a good cd to buy when I have the cash. What would you reccommend as a good starter christian goth/metal/opera/industrial album?

So far, the two most promising bands are Saviour Machine (I like the 'Soundtrack to the end of the world' theme of their legend series) and Virgin Black (I like what little of their cd Requiem: Mezzo Forte that I have listened to.). Which of these bands/cds would you recommend? Are there other, better christian bands from this genre that I am missing?

Thanks in advance.

Go with Savior Machine and Virgin Black IMO. Ghost can probably give you better ideas but Virgin Blacks Mezzo Forte is an amazing and beautiful album. I highly HIGHLY recommend them before anyone else i can think of. There newest album Mezzo Fotismo is steller as well but does not have the scope or granduer that forte stands with. And for christian idustrial industrial deffently go with the band Mortal and there album Nu-en-Jin it is the only industrial album (other than some clean Nine inch nails songs) i will listen to.

[GhostontheNet]

I have just started listening to gothic and industrial music (mostly through christianindustrial.com and your radio station). It has been a little extreme for me, but I am starting to get used to it. Anyhow, I have listened to and researched all the christian goth/metal/opera/industrial bands I have found. I hope to find a good cd to buy when I have the cash. What would you reccommend as a good starter christian goth/metal/opera/industrial album?

So far, the two most promising bands are Saviour Machine (I like the 'Soundtrack to the end of the world' theme of their legend series) and Virgin Black (I like what little of their cd Requiem: Mezzo Forte that I have listened to.). Which of these bands/cds would you recommend? Are there other, better christian bands from this genre that I am missing?

Thanks in advance.

I think whenever you start to listen to a new genre of music, its best to start with something that will introduce you to its basic ideas and lay groundwork to build upon. I personally started my collection with Floodland and First And Last And Always, both by The Sisters of Mercy. For a starter album, I recommend getting Sacrificial Etchings by The Awakening, which can be purchased here. A while ago, I was working on a blog titled 13 Goths: 13 CDs To Begin Haunting Your House With Gothic Music that was intended to help newcomers kickstart their collection. Here's the list of what I came up with, which comes complete with purchase links from reliable vendors:

1. The Sisters of Mercy - First and Last and Always
2. The Sisters of Mercy - Floodland
3. The Awakening - Sacrificial Etchings
4. Bauhaus - Crackle
5. Siouxsie & The Banshees - Juju
6. Clan Of Xymox - Twist Of Shadows
7. Lycia - Estrella
8. Batzz In The Belfry - Sparks Fly Upwards
9. Faith & The Muse - Evidence Of Heaven
10. All Gone Dead - Fallen & Forgotten
11. Scarlet's Remains - The Palest Grey
12. The Cure - Faith
13. Leper - Kreischen

This list should be helpful to all newcomers interested in Gothic music, and consists of my all-time favorites. This list does not, of course, include music in related genres like Industrial, for which I could also make recommendations if anyone so desires. As to operatic Gothic Metal bands, I will save my comments for my next post.

[ich1990]

This list should be helpful to all newcomers interested in Gothic music, and consists of my all-time favorites.

Are all of those bands christian, or do they at least have neutral lyrics? I prefer to support good bands with good lyrics. Also, do you know of any place were I can prelisten to some of these songs (I found some myspace music for "Sisters of Mercy", but not "The Awakening")?

As to operatic Gothic Metal bands, I will save my comments for my next post.

Okay, cool, let me know when you get the chance.

[GhostontheNet]

I have just started listening to gothic and industrial music (mostly through christianindustrial.com and your radio station). It has been a little extreme for me, but I am starting to get used to it. Anyhow, I have listened to and researched all the christian goth/metal/opera/industrial bands I have found. I hope to find a good cd to buy when I have the cash. What would you reccommend as a good starter christian goth/metal/opera/industrial album?

So far, the two most promising bands are Saviour Machine (I like the 'Soundtrack to the end of the world' theme of their legend series) and Virgin Black (I like what little of their cd Requiem: Mezzo Forte that I have listened to.). Which of these bands/cds would you recommend? Are there other, better christian bands from this genre that I am missing?

Thanks in advance.

Here is the promised second part of my post where I deal with other aspects of your posts and GrubbTheFragger's input. Now that I think about it, your query about Operatic Gothic Metal bands is so similar to Danderson's that my recommendations there apply here as well. Of Saviour Machine's work, I think Saviour Machine II is the ideal starting place. As to Virgin Black, as good as Requiem: Mezzo Forte is, I don't recommend getting it until you have some copies of different versions of the Requiem Mass in your collection. Pick up the versions of the original Requiem Mass composed by Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart, Gabriel Fauré, and Karl Jenkins, and you will enjoy Virgin Black's Requiem at least three times as much when you finally get it. Instead, I suggest you try Elegant.... and Dying for your first Virgin Black album.

Go with Savior Machine and Virgin Black IMO. Ghost can probably give you better ideas but Virgin Blacks Mezzo Forte is an amazing and beautiful album. I highly HIGHLY recommend them before anyone else i can think of. There newest album Mezzo Fotismo is steller as well but does not have the scope or granduer that forte stands with. And for christian idustrial industrial deffently go with the band Mortal and there album Nu-en-Jin it is the only industrial album (other than some clean Nine inch nails songs) i will listen to.

Thank you! As per your recommendation, I've recently placed an order for Nu-En-Jin and Godspeed by Mortal, which should arrive in the mail over the next week or so. I'm sorry to hear, however, that you are so reluctant to listen to any Industrial other than Mortal and a bit of Nine Inch Nails. I have a feeling that if you gave them the chance, you would immensely enjoy bands like Skinny Puppy, Front Line Assembly, Stromkern, and Project Pitchfork.

Are all of those bands christian, or do they at least have neutral lyrics? I prefer to support good bands with good lyrics. Also, do you know of any place were I can prelisten to some of these songs (I found some myspace music for "Sisters of Mercy", but not "The Awakening")?

The bands listed essentially fall into four categories. A) Christians producing Christian music that does not suck. B) Christians producing secular music influenced by their faith. C) Secular musicians whose music is mostly neutral or even supportive of things that relate to the faith. If you wish, I can be more concise in what each band believes. Every band on this list certainly meets your criteria of "good bands with good lyrics". In fact, I promise they will change your life. Each of the merchants I linked to provide audio samples of the music they sell, so you can listen to these CDs this way. The Myspace profiles for each of these bands are as follows:

The Sisters of Mercy: http://www.myspace.com/sistersofmercy13 (Unofficial)
The Awakening: http://www.myspace.com/theawakeningband
Bauhaus: http://www.myspace.com/officialbauhaus
Siouxsie & The Banshees: http://www.myspace.com/siouxsieandthebanshees
Clan Of Xymox: http://www.myspace.com/clanofxymox
Lycia: http://www.myspace.com/lycia
Batzz In The Belfry: http://www.myspace.com/batzzinthebelfry
Faith & The Muse: http://www.myspace.com/faithandthemuse
All Gone Dead: http://www.myspace.com/allgonedead
Scarlet's Remains: http://www.myspace.com/scarletsremains
The Cure: http://www.myspace.com/thecure
Leper: http://www.myspace.com/leperdied

Please note that most bands go through radical changes throughout their careers, and these are no exception.

[GrubbTheFragger]

Thank you! As per your recommendation, I've recently placed an order for Nu-En-Jin and Godspeed by Mortal, which should arrive in the mail over the next week or so. I'm sorry to hear, however, that you are so reluctant to listen to any Industrial other than Mortal and a bit of Nine Inch Nails. I have a feeling that if you gave them the chance, you would immensely enjoy bands like Skinny Puppy, Front Line Assembly, Stromkern, and Project Pitchfork.

Actually i have been listening to some frontline assembly work. I am, really enjoying it. Can you give me a recommendation of a cd to start with? Also glad to here you enjoy Mortal Nu-en-Jin is fantastic. Skinny Puppy i am kinda iffy on i just think they are to "extreme" perse for me to start with. but i am sure with some given listen i will enjoy them.

[GhostontheNet]

Actually i have been listening to some frontline assembly work. I am, really enjoying it. Can you give me a recommendation of a cd to start with? Also glad to here you enjoy Mortal Nu-en-Jin is fantastic. Skinny Puppy i am kinda iffy on i just think they are to "extreme" perse for me to start with. but i am sure with some given listen i will enjoy them.

Well, I would enjoy it if it had arrived in the mail, but its not late or anything so I have nothing to complain about. As to Front Line Assembly, in your case I would suggest you start with Artificial Soldier, which makes a good Industrial Music 101 album in general. Skinny Puppy is a pretty complicated band, but some of their albums like The Greater Wrong Of The Right, Too Dark Park, The Singles Collect, and Rabies are more accessible, and make a good place to start once one is ready for them. Its a funny thing: many heavy metal fans who have learned how to survive the harshest guitar work known to man still find themselves caught off guard by harsh electronics.

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Go with Savior Machine and Virgin Black IMO. Ghost can probably give you better ideas but Virgin Blacks Mezzo Forte is an amazing and beautiful album. I highly HIGHLY recommend them before anyone else i can think of. There newest album Mezzo Fotismo is steller as well but does not have the scope or granduer that forte stands with. And for christian idustrial industrial deffently go with the band Mortal and there album Nu-en-Jin it is the only industrial album (other than some clean Nine inch nails songs) i will listen to.

Somehow, I missed this entire post. Thanks for the recommendations anyhow]Here is the promised second part of my post where I deal with other aspects of your posts and GrubbTheFragger's input. Now that I think about it, your query about Operatic Gothic Metal bands is so similar to Danderson's that my recommendations there apply here as well. Of Saviour Machine's work, I think Saviour Machine II is the ideal starting place. As to Virgin Black, as good as Requiem: Mezzo Forte is, I don't recommend getting it until you have some copies of different versions of the Requiem Mass in your collection.[/QUOTE]

Ok, cool, thanks for suggestions. That is precisely the kind of info I was looking for.

The bands listed essentially fall into four categories. A) Christians producing Christian music that does not suck. B) Christians producing secular music influenced by their faith. C) Secular musicians whose music is mostly neutral or even supportive of things that relate to the faith. If you wish, I can be more concise in what each band believes. Every band on this list certainly meets your criteria of "good bands with good lyrics". In fact, I promise they will change your life. Each of the merchants I linked to provide audio samples of the music they sell, so you can listen to these CDs this way. The Myspace profiles for each of these bands are as follows:

Please note that most bands go through radical changes throughout their careers, and these are no exception.

Thanks for the links! For some reason I was having a lot of trouble finding those myspace pages. Also, four categories? I only see three.... nonetheless thanks for telling me about those lyrics. I am a little lacking in cash right now, but I fully plan on buying goth/opera/metal cd sometime soon. Thanks again.