uc pseudonym (post: 1199470) wrote:Huh. Interesting that you say that.
SirThinks2Much wrote:Van Helsing was actually the reason why my friends and I came up with the story. We love the movie, but it's such a bad one as well. So we wanted to make something "literarily correct."
GhostontheNet (post: 1204240) wrote:Remember this though: it is an absolute essential part of every vampyre story from earliest times to modern movies (and I've seen a good many) that the lead vampyre must offer his first victim wine (and also typically bread) but partake of none himself/herself. This is a timelessly haunting scene because it serves as an inverted communion, which suggests that the vampyre draws the source of his own eternal "life" from an equally inverted source to Christ's sacrificial death (represented in the communion). In practice, this turns out to be stealing the lifeblood and life from his own victims, which makes these dining scenes turn out to be a communion of death.
And frankly, most of the vampyre stories where this does not occur tend to be written by authors that are not very well versed in Catholic imagery, or wish to downplay this aspect of the vampyre myth. The connection is so strong that Thomas D. Foster, in his influential How To Read Literature Like a Professor lists back to back chapters titled "Nice To Eat With You.... Acts of Communion" and "Nice To Eat You.... Acts of Vampires" that make significant connections between the two. Many of the methods that are useful in interpreting literature are also useful in interpreting cinema. Just a couple of examples of this motif in influential vampyre movies are as follows.mechana2015 (post: 1204799) wrote:Where on earth did you get this... I can name a ton of stories where this doesn't happen.
SirThinks2Much (post: 1205171) wrote:For that, I'll endeavor to *NOT* put in a scene like that. I can forget it if I wish. It is not essential in the least, and there is a heck of a lot going on in my story other than vampires (I suppose you haven't seen the movie Van Helsing, on which I said this comic was inspired by). I'm avoiding religious overtones for the most part, and working with historical/literary context instead. Keep in mind that there have been myths about vampires in areas where Catholicism had not yet spread, even predating Catholicism. Therefore, this sort of scene is not an inbred part of the myth. Someone could become a vampire by being a seventh son, committing suicide, or being born with red hair. As far as I know, none of these aspects have been included in any vampire movies, and certainly not Bram Stoker's novel. Neither of those movies you mentioned follow the novel that closely, either.
I don't suppose there's an influential book out there called "How To Read Literature Like a WRITER."
Writing vampire with a "y" doesn't make it any more valid than writing it with an "i." If that were the case, we'd be writing our "s'" as "f's".
GhostontheNet (post: 1205135) wrote:And frankly, most of the vampyre stories where this does not occur tend to be written by authors that are not very well versed in Catholic imagery, or wish to downplay this aspect of the vampyre myth. The connection is so strong that Thomas D. Foster, in his influential How To Read Literature Like a Professor lists back to back chapters titled "Nice To Eat With You.... Acts of Communion" and "Nice To Eat You.... Acts of Vampires" that make significant connections between the two. Many of the methods that are useful in interpreting literature are also useful in interpreting cinema. Just a couple of examples of this motif in influential vampyre movies are as follows.
If you wish, I can keep this list going for at least a dozen vampyre movies up to the present.
SirThinks2Much (post: 1205171) wrote:For that, I'll endeavor to *NOT* put in a scene like that.
FishandChips wrote:This post is the most epic win ever to be won.
Its nice to know I am so widely loved. We'll see if I ever bother to share ideas with the likes of you again.RadicalDreamer wrote:That post is so awesome, I don't even know what to do with myself.
Remember this though: it is an absolute essential part of every vampyre story from earliest times to modern movies (and I've seen a good many) that the lead vampyre must offer his first victim wine (and also typically bread) but partake of none himself/herself.
GhostontheNet (post: 1205258) wrote:Its nice to know I am so widely loved. We'll see if I ever bother to share ideas with the likes of you again.
(The whole Communion scene in Dracula doesn't follow those requirements, by the way. Jonathan is not Dracula's first victim.)
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