Orguss

Postby **Sammy Boy** » Tue Nov 27, 2007 2:43 am

Does anyone remember this anime?

Was one of my favourites as a kid:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i6UBPdQq56k

"Where are you going, when are you coming home?"

Brings back the memories...

My Writing.com Portfolio · Postby **EricTheFred** » Tue Nov 27, 2007 6:15 am

Mimsy = Ultimate Anime Beauty from back in the day before when they forgot how to draw realistic female figures.

Great stuff from one of the 'Robotech' parallel universes (i.e. it's one of the 'Superdimension' series). This has recently been brought to the English-language market by ImaginAsian in subtitle-only form (actually, some of the series was dubbed for a release way back when, and they provide those as well.) You can get it from RightStuf.

Old Anime is full of neat series like this, but unfortunately when I show them to my kids, they turn their noses up because of the 'cheap animation' (not understanding how much effort went into these things back in the days of hand-drawn cels.) I can't even get these guys interested in Patlabor or Dai-guard, and those are more recent.

My favorite series from the same time as Orguss, 'Cat's Eye', is being marketed by the same people.

Postby **Blitzkrieg1701** » Tue Nov 27, 2007 12:14 pm

Orguss is pretty high on my Anime I Wish I Could Have Caught The First Time Around list.

Postby **Roy Mustang** » Tue Nov 27, 2007 12:53 pm

Great stuff from one of the 'Robotech' parallel universes (i.e. it's one of the 'Superdimension' series).

That would be Macross and not Robotech. Orguss was the second part of The Super Dimension trilogy from Big West.

I like Orguss, but not as well as Macross. But if you like Orguss, then you should try and check out The Super Dimension Cavalry Southern Cross. It was the last of the Supper Dimension trilogy.

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My Writing.com Portfolio · Postby **EricTheFred** » Tue Nov 27, 2007 3:11 pm

Roy Mustang wrote:That would be Macross and not Robotech. Orguss was the second part of The Super Dimension trilogy from Big West.

I like Orguss, but not as well as Macross. But if you like Orguss, then you should try and check out The Super Dimension Cavalry Southern Cross. It was the last of the Supper Dimension trilogy.

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Actually, by saying 'Robotech' I was attempting to refer to both Macross and Southern Cross, both of which are also 'Superdimension' series from Big West. Orguss is the other big one, and old Anime fans have long wondered why they didn't stick Orguss into the Robotech conglommeration instead of the unrelated Mospeada.

Blitzkrieg1701 wrote:Orguss is pretty high on my Anime I Wish I Could Have Caught The First Time Around list.

Yeah, given it's basically the same age as you are, this wasn't possible, I guess.

It really is a fun series. I know 'Macross' is the bigger name, but Orguss deserves to be seen. And no matter how cute Lynn Minmay is, Mimsy still has first place in my heart (after my wife, of course!)

Postby **Roy Mustang** » Tue Nov 27, 2007 3:32 pm

EricTheFred wrote:Actually, by saying 'Robotech' I was attempting to refer to both Macross and Southern Cross, both of which are also 'Superdimension' series from Big West. Orguss is the other big one, and old Anime fans have long wondered why they didn't stick Orguss into the Robotech conglommeration instead of the unrelated Mospeada.

That's just me, but I don't see Macross and Robotech as the same thing, since Robotech was a cut and paste of those animes to be bought over here. There are some fans that have seen Robotech and never knew that it was three animes into one.

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My Writing.com Portfolio · Postby **EricTheFred** » Tue Nov 27, 2007 8:22 pm

Roy Mustang wrote:That's just me, but I don't see Macross and Robotech as the same thing, since Robotech was a cut and paste of those animes to be bought over here. There are some fans that have seen Robotech and never knew that it was three animes into one.

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I fully agree, but I tend to find "Robotech" a much more commonly recognized identifier than "Superdimensional".

Now that ADV has done "Macross" the right way, and ImaginAsian is issuing "Orguss", I have my hopes up that someone will get "Southern Cross" out there so I can finally see the whole thing. Truth to tell, I've seen a majority but not all of Orguss, and I'm in the middle of finally seeing all of the non-bastardized Macross, but from "Southern Cross" I've seen only three 'fansubs' ages ago (actually, reading a piece of paper while watching a Japanese VHS) and, of course, the material from it that went into Robotech.

Postby **Sammy Boy** » Wed Nov 28, 2007 1:13 am

EricTheFred wrote:Old Anime is full of neat series like this, but unfortunately when I show them to my kids, they turn their noses up because of the 'cheap animation' (not understanding how much effort went into these things back in the days of hand-drawn cels.) I can't even get these guys interested in Patlabor or Dai-guard, and those are more recent.

Ah I see. Yeh that's understandable but a shame, because things were not as "easy" in the past as present where computers helped with the animation.

Hopefully Orguss will come out in Australia as well, because when you watch something like Macross at the age of five ... it's hard to understand much of what was going on except the space battles. Well, at least I found it hard to understand the plot...

Postby **creed4** » Wed Nov 28, 2007 3:45 pm

I think ADV has Southern Cross. I haven't seen Orguss, but I want to check it out

Postby **Roy Mustang** » Wed Nov 28, 2007 5:33 pm

creed4 wrote:I think ADV has Southern Cross.

I don't think Harmony Gold or ADV has the rights to Southern Cross anymore, but I'm not a 100% sure on that. ADV put out a subtitle boxset of Southern Cross in 2003 and that was it.

Rightstuf still shows they have it in stock.

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My Writing.com Portfolio · Postby **EricTheFred** » Thu Nov 29, 2007 6:09 am

I'll have to look into this. I'm sure the last time I looked for it, I wasn't shopping at Rightstuf yet.

Postby **creed4** » Thu Nov 29, 2007 3:14 pm

I bought southern cross subbed a couple of years ago

Postby **mitsuki lover** » Mon Dec 03, 2007 11:32 am

I found a shrine to it at the website Anime.Com.They said it was better
than some of the other Macross sequels.

Postby **Roy Mustang** » Mon Dec 03, 2007 11:48 am

mitsuki lover wrote:I found a shrine to it at the website Anime.Com.They said it was better
than some of the other Macross sequels.

Never trust a web site that is a shrine to that said anime. Macross sequels are part of Macross and Orguss is not. Nor is it a part of Macross other then it was just part of the Super Dimension trilogy from Big West, but related to each other.

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My Writing.com Portfolio · Postby **EricTheFred** » Mon Dec 03, 2007 12:27 pm

The Big West position on the relationship of the three Superdimensional series, IIRC, was that they used similar technology but were in alternate universes. Given the premise of Orguss, though, this always begged the question of whether the Macross and Southern Cross universes could have been among the dimensions 'mixed up' by the dimensional bomb at the beginning of Orguss.

Postby **Roy Mustang** » Mon Dec 03, 2007 12:38 pm

Yeah, but there is not poof that they are related at all. You can go to ANN or any other anime encyclopedia and they show or say that they are related to each other, other then carrying the Super Dimension name.

So, they are really stand alone animes.

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