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Postby Felix » Thu Jul 19, 2007 11:47 am

What does Kirby look like when he sucks up Jiggly Puff?

He looks rather fat, to be honest.

In other news, it indeed looks like the only way to use Zero-suit Samus is to have Samus use her final smash, which destroys her power suit. Seems that this will lead to some interesting decision-making and payoff, since it looks like you can't go back to being Samus after your suit is destroyed.
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Postby Fish and Chips » Thu Jul 19, 2007 1:31 pm

I know I'm gonna get flack for this.

I am well aware that both Link and Zelda are based of their most recent Twilight Princess incarnations (and that if Ganondorf is brought back, the same is plausible for him); but I still really think Zelda should, and will, have Shiek as a second playable form. Ocarina is still the penultimate of the Zelda series in the eyes of many (next to Link to the Past), and somehow if you're going to entertain the idea of Zero-Suit Samus, it makes since to have other alternate characters as well. Shiek was originally a secret character, I believe; and since Nintendo's being upfront about Samus' alternate form, why not just keep it?
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Postby uc pseudonym » Thu Jul 19, 2007 2:07 pm

Felix wrote:Well I know that if I was playing as kirby I would probably swallow Jigglypuff and kamikaze dive-bomb off the edge of the map. I hear that that practice is fornwed upon in some circles, however, so I don't know...

But it shouldn't be, because this is immense fun. Especially if you can spit them out at the bottom and float back up to the level.

Tom Dincht wrote:What does Kirby look like when he sucks up Jiggly Puff?

No one I play with uses Jigglypuff, so I'm not certain: but what power does Kirby get upon absorbing one? I don't think it's the song, but if it's the hit that essentially makes him like Jigglypuff but with his B+direction moves.
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Postby Raiden no Kishi » Thu Jul 19, 2007 3:35 pm

After absorbing Jigglypuff, Kirby gets the Rollout move, a charged rolling dash. I believe Yoshi has a similar attack.

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Postby Felix » Thu Jul 19, 2007 4:03 pm

Fish and Chips wrote:I know I'm gonna get flack for this.

I am well aware that both Link and Zelda are based of their most recent Twilight Princess incarnations (and that if Ganondorf is brought back, the same is plausible for him)]
No, I agree with you. In fact, I think more players should have alternate forms. Earlier in the thread, I argued that Link should have another form, like his Fierce Diety form, or his Wolf form.

I also think [at least as a costume, if not as a seperate form] that there should be a "Twilight Princess" version of Zelda where she's wearing her robes and hood.

... And I think it would be cool if Pit turned into an eggplant... (Kudo's to those who played the game and know what I mean)

uc pseudonym wrote:But it shouldn't be, because this is immense fun. Especially if you can spit them out at the bottom and float back up to the level.

Oh, quite and indeed. I've found that that's easiest on the Battlefield stage. Just edge-lurk on the side and suck in anyone who gets close to you. Then drop off, and they almost always pop out just far enough down so that they can't get back up, but you can :]
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Postby Debitt » Thu Jul 19, 2007 4:07 pm

I think Kirby sprouts the little Jigglypuff curly hair thing + ears when he absorbs it? :O

And why would you get flack for that, Fish? :lol: I agree entirely.
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Postby Bobtheduck » Thu Jul 19, 2007 4:09 pm

Jigglypuff is teh awesome...

My winning team on Pokemon Blue and Red was all Wigglytuffs... They're programmable and pretty strong... Perfect combination.
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Postby Fish and Chips » Thu Jul 19, 2007 4:52 pm

Debitt wrote:And why would you get flack for that, Fish? :lol: I agree entirely.

A fare share of "SSBB ZELDA ARE BASED OFF TWILIGHT PRINCESS, NO SHEIK THAR" people I've had to deal with. Not necessarily here, just in general.
Bobtheduck wrote:Jigglypuff is teh awesome...

My winning team on Pokemon Blue and Red was all Wigglytuffs... They're programmable and pretty strong... Perfect combination.

Recently replaying Pokemon Red, Jigglypuff/Wigglytuff is a frickin' tank.
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Postby Alexander » Thu Jul 19, 2007 5:34 pm

I just realized something.

If Caption Falcon returns, which he more then likely will, he'll have a final smash too.

If it isn't this I will be most unhappy.

Also, I would agree with the alternative choices for characters. It's my dream to play as Fierce Deity Link, although I'm afraid it won't be happening in this game...
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Postby Fish and Chips » Thu Jul 19, 2007 5:51 pm

Alexander wrote:I just realized something.

If Caption Falcon returns, which he more then likely will, he'll have a final smash too.

If it isn't this I will be most unhappy.

There's no way you could walk away from that. Not if you wish to leave the level intact.
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Postby Alexander » Thu Jul 19, 2007 6:15 pm

Fish and Chips wrote:There's no way you could walk away from that. Not if you wish to leave the level intact.


Okay, he would be underpowered a bit. Just like how Kirby can't fly and how Mewtwo didn't have boss like powers as a playable character.

In his final smash, he would just obliterate everyone while taking damage possibly? Either way, it HAS to be in the game.
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Postby HyperSock » Fri Jul 20, 2007 3:38 am

I'm confused...

I do not understand today's Smash update...
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Postby Raiden no Kishi » Fri Jul 20, 2007 4:47 am

I think it's an attempt by Nintendo to add some form of storyline or plot. Remember, SSBB is a fighting game, so, going on precedent, you shouldn't be able to make sense of the story. ^_~

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Postby Slater » Fri Jul 20, 2007 9:54 am

In SSB, the characters were all dolls. In SSBM, the characters were all trophies. It appears that the characters are all trophies in SSBB, too.

Perhaps this new character is one of the Master Hand's minions.
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Postby Fish and Chips » Fri Jul 20, 2007 10:57 am

HyperSock wrote:I'm confused...

I do not understand today's Smash update...

It's "Filler."
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Postby Link Antilles » Fri Jul 20, 2007 1:15 pm

Raiden no Kishi wrote:I think it's an attempt by Nintendo to add some form of storyline or plot. Remember, SSBB is a fighting game, so, going on precedent, you shouldn't be able to make sense of the story. ^_~

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I thought the story made sense. A kid is playing with his action figures and they openly rebel, blowing up one of the kid's hands. Then, many years later, the kid overcomes his psychological paranoia of colorful figures and opens up the toy chest again to play with them. -And, of course, they end up blowing up his other hand.

So, it's oblivious, the kid is bending the rules of his own imaginary fighting world and seeking revenge, because he was forever crippled for just wanting to play with his toys. ;)
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Postby uc pseudonym » Fri Jul 20, 2007 1:21 pm

Felix wrote:No, I agree with you. In fact, I think more players should have alternate forms. Earlier in the thread, I argued that Link should have another form, like his Fierce Diety form, or his Wolf form.

Fierce Deity Link would be fun, though it would feel underpowered. Has Link's final smash been revealed? I'm curious as to what it would be, as the series doesn't have anything all that cataclysmic.

Fish and Chips wrote:A fare share of "SSBB ZELDA ARE BASED OFF TWILIGHT PRINCESS, NO SHEIK THAR" people I've had to deal with. Not necessarily here, just in general.

Hm, I'm mildly surprised to learn such a crowd exists. Ocarina of Time is pretty popular.

Alexander wrote:If it isn't this I will be most unhappy.

Heh. Explosions measured in light years.
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Postby Alexander » Fri Jul 20, 2007 7:35 pm

Woooooow.

This is probably going to be the best update until the game is released. I personally feel that there is going to be a little more story in the game this time. But I won't put my hopes up too much for something REALLY deep. But it's very fascinating either way.
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Postby Fish and Chips » Fri Jul 20, 2007 7:49 pm

uc pseudonym wrote:Hm, I'm mildly surprised to learn such a crowd exists. Ocarina of Time is pretty popular.

Not in particularly large numbers, but enough that suggesting the idea will get your written off. "Are you stupid? She's based off the Twilight Princess Zelda."
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Postby Slater » Fri Jul 20, 2007 9:46 pm

Well... she is.

Maybe Shiek should return as an unlockable character. I don't think Nintendo would bring her back as a transformation for Zelda this time...
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Postby Cognitive Gear » Fri Jul 20, 2007 10:02 pm

Fish and Chips wrote:Not in particularly large numbers, but enough that suggesting the idea will get your written off. "Are you stupid? She's based off the Twilight Princess Zelda."


Actually, if Zelda had been shown using a sword I might agree with this mentality. However, since she is not I'm going to assume that she is some sort of bizarre mix of the many different Zeldas that have been in the various games.

I hope that they do keep the transformation mechanic, regardless. I'd like to see them hone the mechanic so that more people will want to actively switch between the characters as the fight moves.
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Postby Mr. SmartyPants » Sat Jul 21, 2007 4:25 am

ikimasu wrote:Actually, if Zelda had been shown using a sword I might agree with this mentality. However, since she is not I'm going to assume that she is some sort of bizarre mix of the many different Zeldas that have been in the various games.

I hope that they do keep the transformation mechanic, regardless. I'd like to see them hone the mechanic so that more people will want to actively switch between the characters as the fight moves.

I think that's simply because some players don't know that Zelda can actually be useful in some cases. While I do generally use Sheik, I do find myself transforming back and forth a lot of times.
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Postby Felix » Sat Jul 21, 2007 3:44 pm

Hmm, at this point I would say that it's up in the air whether there will even be transformations at all. It seems that Zero-suit Samus is more of a... progression than a true transformation. If they include Sheik at all, it's more likely that [she] will be a separate character than a transformation.
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Postby meboeck » Sun Jul 22, 2007 5:55 pm

uc pseudonym wrote:Fierce Deity Link would be fun, though it would feel underpowered. Has Link's final smash been revealed? I'm curious as to what it would be, as the series doesn't have anything all that cataclysmic.


Link's final smash is where the triforce comes out of his hand and traps an enemy. Then he hacks at them with his sword a few times.
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Postby Fish and Chips » Mon Jul 23, 2007 1:16 am

My dreams for a larger, (somewhat-slightly-more) intricate level have finally been realized.

Why Donkey Kong? Why?
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Postby Link Antilles » Mon Jul 23, 2007 5:17 am

Yeah, despite it being based on Donkey Kong (Jungle Beat, non the less), it is very nice to see a stage that is more than just a big platform and two supporting ones.
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Postby KeybladeWarrior » Mon Jul 23, 2007 6:50 am

Yes it is. Seems as time progresses on, the more complexed designed stages show up on the weekly updates.
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Postby meboeck » Tue Jul 24, 2007 7:24 am

Yoshi! One of my favorite ways to annoy other players! I think that picture of him and Donkey Kong is hilarious.
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Postby Felix » Tue Jul 24, 2007 7:32 am

Oh dear... I can't say that I much care for scrolling stages, but the Donkey Kong stage still looks fun, and as Link said, it's nice to see a stage with more than 3 platforms.

I'm glad to see Yoshi, too. He's fun to play as. Gotta love turning people into eggs ^_~
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Postby Hitokiri » Tue Jul 24, 2007 8:04 am

It will be intresting to see how Yoshi will utilize that third jump of his.

It seems to me they are releasing a new character per week so I am guessing we will get a veteran character. I am hoping either for Peach, Ness, Vaptain Falcon.
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