No Anime on Adult Swim?

[ashfire]

They aired Kenshin during the later half of Toonami which is probably why you thought it was on AS.I think it was on the same time slot that Prince of Tennis now occupies.So it's easy to see why one could get confused.
The thing that irks me though is when they would re-air a series like Neon Genesis Evangelion and suddenly drop it midway through the re-airing to put in another series.IMO when you're airing something,even if it's a rerun you should air the entire program and THEN put something else on when you have finished it.No matter what the ratings might look like you still have a duty to your audience to let them see the entire series before pulling it.

I feel the same way you do. Run it to the end and then change. My anime club would start a series and if someone didn't like a series they would vote to drop it and start something else.
There are a few I would like to buy just to see the end.

[Mr. SmartyPants]

Um, you can still by the DVD's. Just put it on subtitled, then you can watch it with the original voices.

Ever consider the fact that it costs money to buy the DVDs?

[Blitzkrieg1701]

That is one of the few strengths Adult Swim has to attract viewers, but the internet's hacking away at that, too (both in terms of watching stuff for free or just getting DVDs for cheep)

[KhakiBlueSocks]

That is one of the few strengths Adult Swim has to attract viewers, but the internet's hacking away at that, too (both in terms of watching stuff for free or just getting DVDs for cheep)

Oh yeah, DVD's are starting to get a little cheaper now]
[color=blue]
Example: Volume 1 of Eureka Seven (yes, I'm a fanboy. Shaddup) cost about $25 at Sam Goode...but Best Buy has the SAME DVD for $18 WITH TAX!

If Adult Swim is serious with this threat, regardless of what anyone says, they do stand to loose quite a bit of their viewers they gained. Not everyone has Digital Cable/satellite, and not everyone can afford to buy anime DVD's, even if they are getting cheaper.

[Blitzkrieg1701]

At this point, I think the topic has migrated from "Will Adult Swim really drop all anime?!?!?!?" to "Why isn't Adult Swim showing MORE anime, dang it?!?!?!?"

[Fish and Chips]

Adult Swim has no obligations to show Anime. Only adult animated programming. That they're showing as much as they have is generous, considering Anime is a niche interest and popular to bash. Some of their lower ratings come from Anime blocks.

[mitsuki lover]

Another question is why doesn't it show anime other than the type it is showing?
I mean one would hope that they would expand beyond trying to get the viewership that they now have.

[Fish and Chips]

Action sells, Mitsuki. And even then, their ratings aren't as high as they could be. Why don't they? Why would they?

[mitsuki lover]

So what you are basically saying is that AS should avoid trying to bring in a newer
type of anime audience that might be interested in something other than action that would actually help lift the anime ratings a bit higher.
What I am saying is that there is a need of more of a balance.Keep shows like
Blood + but also add more comedic series like Maison Ikkoku.Let people see that there is more to anime than slash and gore.

[RedMage]

Adult Swim's target audience is teenage and young adult males. Maison Ikkoku is a female-targeted romantic comedy. It would bomb like a B-52.

[Mr. SmartyPants]

but also add more comedic series like Maison Ikkoku.Let people see that there is more to anime than slash and gore.

More like no...

Just because you like something doesn't mean every other 14-24 year old male who watches AS will.

[Roy Mustang]

So what you are basically saying is that AS should avoid trying to bring in a newer
type of anime audience that might be interested in something other than action that would actually help lift the anime ratings a bit higher.

They go with what works. If its not broke, don't fix it.

The main group of views that watch Adult Swim are from 18-34 and mostly male. Sure, there are males that love drama/romance/shoujo anime, but the kind of people that Adult Swim goes after, want their action and comedy.



Col. Roy Mustang

[RedMage]

More like no...

Just because you like something doesn't mean every other 14-24 year old male who watches AS will.

It should be pointed out that Mitsuki Lover isn't a 14-24 year old male himself. He can't expect younger people's tastes to be as refined and varied as his own.

[Fish and Chips]

So what you are basically saying is that AS should avoid trying to bring in a newer
type of anime audience that might be interested in something other than action that would actually help lift the anime ratings a bit higher.

Um, no Mitsuki, wrong answer. But hey, thanks for playing.

I'm not saying Adult Swim shouldn't do that, I'm saying they won't. Period. Action is a popular genre in American comic books, films, video games, and sports. In their minds, if they're going to show an Anime with a shot at high ratings, which is what they want, they'll show action Anime. And if something that popular and wide-spread doesn't work, what assurance do they have that a less hyped genre might bring in the numbers? They don't, and they're not going to risk finding out.

[KhakiBlueSocks]

What I am saying is that there is a need of more of a balance.Keep shows like
Blood + but also add more comedic series like Maison Ikkoku.Let people see that there is more to anime than slash and gore.

Actually, Adult Swim, in the beginning, aired one of the Tenchi Muyo series. While it didn't balance out Yu Yu, Bebop, or Gundam, it still lightened things up a bit.

[Tommy]

Um, no Mitsuki, wrong answer. But hey, thanks for playing.

I'm not saying Adult Swim shouldn't do that, I'm saying they won't. Period. Action is a popular genre in American comic books, films, video games, and sports. In their minds, if they're going to show an Anime with a shot at high ratings, which is what they want, they'll show action Anime. And if something that popular and wide-spread doesn't work, what assurance do they have that a less hyped genre might bring in the numbers? They don't, and they're not going to risk finding out.

I could easily see the AdultSwim audience enjoying "Honey and Clover."

[ShiroiHikari]

What about a series like Hajime no Ippo on AS? I could see that being at least mildly successful.

[Fish and Chips]

I could easily see the AdultSwim audience enjoying "Honey and Clover."

Good for you. Then write a letter to Adult Swim's main office and convince them that it'll be worth the licensing and dubbing costs, that it will draw a suitable audience, and won't just be a genre gamble.

And report back to me when they reply with "Yes, Tom Dincht, you're right."

[RedMage]

Isn't Honey and Clover already licensed by somebody? I could swear that it getting licensed was my other prediction in the new year's prophecy thread, and there was a discussion of whether it would be, and then lo and behold.

[Roy Mustang]

Isn't Honey and Clover already licensed by somebody?

Honey and Clover has been pick up by Viz and they are still working on it.

But you are not going to see Shoujo anime on Adult Swim. Kim Manning, who over looks the AS lineup programing is a fan of Shoujo anime. But a few years back, she said that AS just doesn't think shoujo anime will work on AS.

Most of the anime that have had a love drama/romance to it, also has had action in it.

Adult Swim has giving up the idea on showing an anime in sub format now. I guess they feel that it wouldn't work out.

I think the only way that Adult Swim may change their minds about shoujo is if they were to get their own channel.

What about a series like Hajime no Ippo on AS? I could see that being at least mildly successful.

That one maybe a hit, since its a boxing anime. But has the anime ever been release here in the states?


Col. Roy Mustang

[Blitzkrieg1701]

I'm not saying Adult Swim shouldn't do that, I'm saying they won't. Period. Action is a popular genre in American comic books, films, video games, and sports. In their minds, if they're going to show an Anime with a shot at high ratings, which is what they want, they'll show action Anime. And if something that popular and wide-spread doesn't work, what assurance do they have that a less hyped genre might bring in the numbers? They don't, and they're not going to risk finding out.

What makes that ever worse, in my mind at least, is that Adult Swim is sort of dooming themselves to unimpressive ratings by only showing anime that tries to deliver what other shows at more convenient times are already providing anyway. Honestly, lots of fighting and action is one of the things that television animation is LEAST suited for! Why do you think anime embraced the "classic" one-single-frame-of-a-character-yelling-to-represent-action trick? Yes, the good shows can compensate with good writing, interesting stories, and all that. Still, to the average TV viewer, most of these shows still look a little dinky after the million dollar prime time programs they just watched an hour or two before. If Adult Swim branched out more into genres that a TV animation budged can actually do justice to, they might look better to the average joe (but we've already established quite clearly why that won't happen this lifetime )

Actually, Adult Swim, in the beginning, aired one of the Tenchi Muyo series. While it didn't balance out Yu Yu, Bebop, or Gundam, it still lightened things up a bit.

They were also a touch desperate to fill out the time slots, if you'll remember. Even then, the "animation grows up" promotional thrust was quite firmly dedicated to violence and swearing.

[MasterDias]

That one maybe a hit, since its a boxing anime. But has the anime ever been release here in the states?

Yes, it was brought to the US, but I don't think the DVDs sold very well, and it's probably too niche for AS to air.

What makes that ever worse, in my mind at least, is that Adult Swim is sort of dooming themselves to unimpressive ratings by only showing anime that tries to deliver what other shows at more convenient times are already providing anyway. Honestly, lots of fighting and action is one of the things that television animation is LEAST suited for! Why do you think anime embraced the "classic" one-single-frame-of-a-character-yelling-to-represent-action trick? Yes, the good shows can compensate with good writing, interesting stories, and all that. Still, to the average TV viewer, most of these shows still look a little dinky after the million dollar prime time programs they just watched an hour or two before. If Adult Swim branched out more into genres that a TV animation budged can actually do justice to, they might look better to the average joe (but we've already established quite clearly why that won't happen this lifetime )

Do you just diss action anime?
But, seriously though... What would you suggest?
Comedy... Most of them are too niche, or too Japanese, or both...
Shojo Romance... A lot of these have trouble selling on DVD, much less mainstream TV.

...and the slower shows on AS like GitS(as much as I like it) aren't as popular as the straight action shows.

Fish and Chips is right. Action shows are what's proven to sell, so action shows are what AS is going to go for.

[Blitzkrieg1701]

I'm just saying that the realities of TV anime production means that it can't help but alienate a chunk of the very audience Adult Swim thinks it's appealing to.

Of course, I'm a malcontent who'll complain about every aspect of the anime industry if I get the chance, so I should probably shut up now

[ShiroiHikari]

I think Hajime no Ippo could succeed if they treated it right. It's very "actiony" (it'd better be if it's about boxing, right?) I honestly have NO idea why it isn't more popular, because it's a great series in every way. (It even has some instances of immature humor to keep the comedy fans happy. XD)

[Tommy]

Good for you. Then write a letter to Adult Swim's main office and convince them that it'll be worth the licensing and dubbing costs, that it will draw a suitable audience, and won't just be a genre gamble.

And report back to me when they reply with "Yes, Tom Dincht, you're right."

I was being sarcastic! XD

Sorry, but most people can't take action seriously when its animated.
I personally can't either.

I mean I like a good amount of action anime, but action usually isn't taken seriously as easily as live action.

Second of all, I wouldn't refer to myself as Tom Dincht.
Would you make a business proposition as "Fish and Chips."

Also, Honey and Clover isn't shoujo.
I don't remember what it is, but Mangafanatic knows.

[RedMage]

For all we know, Tom Dincht is your real name.

[MasterDias]

Adult Swim's target audience is teenage and young adult males. Maison Ikkoku is a female-targeted romantic comedy. It would bomb like a B-52.

Actually, you're wrong, in this case as far as the demographic goes. It's seinen, which means it is targeted at adult males. All of Rumiko Takahashi's major series are targeted at males.

Also, Honey and Clover isn't shoujo.

It's josei, but I doubt it makes that much difference as far as AS is concerned.

I think Hajime no Ippo could succeed if they treated it right. It's very "actiony" (it'd better be if it's about boxing, right?) I honestly have NO idea why it isn't more popular, because it's a great series in every way. (It even has some instances of immature humor to keep the comedy fans happy. XD)

The thing is, sports anime has never done very well in North America, even if it's a more "fight-oriented" sport like boxing. Princess Nine didn't sell all that well for ADV, I don't think, and despite how popular it is in Asia, Slam Dunk is mostly unknown in this country.
Although, I think Viz has had mild successes with the Eyeshield 21 manga and TPoT.

[Fish and Chips]

I was being sarcastic! XD

So was I.

[Blitzkrieg1701]

I have to confess that I've NEVER watched a sports anime. I can't really say why, but there's never been a flicker of interest there.

Anyway, given Friday Night Lights "stellar" ratings, I doubt Adult Swim would gamble on one even if it did handle the action well

Sorry, but most people can't take action seriously when its animated.
I personally can't either.

I mean I like a good amount of action anime, but action usually isn't taken seriously as easily as live action.

Thank you

[Tommy]

For all we know, Tom Dincht is your real name.

Actually a user here knows my last name because I know him in person.
He actually called me by it here when he first joined.

Anyways, if my last name her Dincht, I would write a song about it like Johnny Cash did.