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Postby jon_jinn » Sun Jan 21, 2007 3:00 pm

i am currently reading this wonderful novel of fencing, fighting, true love, strong hate, harsh revenge, a few giants, lots of bad men, lots of good men, five or six beautiful women, beasties monstrous and gentle, some swell escapes and captures, death, lies, truth, and miracles. i am almost finished with the novel and i decided that it would be cool to start a thread on the book. anyways, i also had a quick question...
[spoiler]why did Prince Humperdinck hire fezzik, vizzini, and inigo to kill Buttercup if he was going to marry her?[/spoiler]

anyways, i hope this thread goes well...
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Postby Radical Dreamer » Sun Jan 21, 2007 3:26 pm

jon_jinn wrote:[spoiler]why did Prince Humperdinck hire fezzik, vizzini, and inigo to kill Buttercup if he was going to marry her?[/spoiler]


[SPOILER]The whole point of his actions is to start a war with Guilder. He wants Vizzini and the others to kidnap her, but make it seem like Guilder's men kidnapped/killed her. Basically, he wants to start a war with Guilder but has no real reason for it, so he's trying to make up a fake one. Remember the line from the movie, if you've seen it:

"You know how I love to watch you work, but I've got my country's 100th anniversary to plan, my wedding to plan, my wife to murder, and Guilder to blame for it. I'm swamped!"

"Get some rest. If you haven't got your health, you haven't got anything."[/SPOILER]

Hopefully that helped, if it didn't confuse you. XD
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Postby Taliesin » Sun Jan 21, 2007 3:33 pm

Whee! I loved that book. I wish he had actually published the sequel. You know the chapter at the back that is supposedly from the next book. that would have been totally spiffed
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Postby jon_jinn » Sun Jan 21, 2007 3:51 pm

Radical Dreamer wrote:[SPOILER]The whole point of his actions is to start a war with Guilder. He wants Vizzini and the others to kidnap her, but make it seem like Guilder's men kidnapped/killed her. Basically, he wants to start a war with Guilder but has no real reason for it, so he's trying to make up a fake one. Remember the line from the movie, if you've seen it:

"You know how I love to watch you work, but I've got my country's 100th anniversary to plan, my wedding to plan, my wife to murder, and Guilder to blame for it. I'm swamped!"

"Get some rest. If you haven't got your health, you haven't got anything."[/SPOILER]

Hopefully that helped, if it didn't confuse you. XD


oh, i understand now why he's trying to kill her. but then

[spoiler]isn't Humperdinck trying to marry Buttercup so that he can bear a successor to take over the throne when he dies?[/spoiler]
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Postby Puguni » Sun Jan 21, 2007 4:06 pm

I especially liked the author's little inserts. They were hilarious. XD
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Postby mitsuki lover » Mon Jan 22, 2007 12:21 pm

Erm...you do realize that the whole book is a satire on fantasy novels?
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Postby Fish and Chips » Mon Jan 22, 2007 4:14 pm

jon_jinn wrote:oh, i understand now why he's trying to kill her. but then

[spoiler]isn't Humperdinck trying to marry Buttercup so that he can bear a successor to take over the throne when he dies?[/spoiler]

Humperdinck isn't too preoccupied with anything other than Humperdinck.

And the book is brilliant. Satire is tasty when it's done right.
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Postby Evangeline-San » Mon Jan 22, 2007 4:27 pm

I loved the book and I loved the movie!
It's such a great comedy! ^_^
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Postby Mr. Rogers » Mon Jan 22, 2007 4:30 pm

Stop that rhyming! And, I mean it!

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Postby Fish and Chips » Mon Jan 22, 2007 4:32 pm

sldr4Christ1985 wrote:Stop that rhyming! And, I mean it!

Anybody want a peanut?

"Maybe it's just some local fisherman, out for a pleasure cruise in...eel invested waters..."

Although for most deviations I prefer the Princess Bride book to the film, I'd actually rather have the eels from the movie than the sharks from the book.
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Postby Radical Dreamer » Mon Jan 22, 2007 4:37 pm

Fish and Chips wrote:"Maybe it's just some local fisherman, out for a pleasure cruise in...eel invested waters..."

Although for most deviations I prefer the Princess Bride book to the film, I'd actually rather have the eels from the movie than the sharks from the book.


"He's gaining on us! I wonder if he is using the same wind we are using?"

And that's my only reason for this post. So I'll just leave now. XD
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Postby jon_jinn » Mon Jan 22, 2007 4:47 pm

hmmm...i suppose it would be possible to simply change this thread's entire reason for existence into a thread made simply for quotes for the book (or movie).

"Hello. My name is Inigo Montoya. You killed my father; prepare to die."
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Postby Fish and Chips » Mon Jan 22, 2007 6:18 pm

[quote="jon_jinn"]hmmm...i suppose it would be possible to simply change this thread's entire reason for existence into a thread made simply for quotes for the book (or movie).

"Hello. My name is Inigo Montoya. You killed my father]
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Postby MorwenLaicoriel » Mon Jan 22, 2007 11:32 pm

I like the part where he explains about all of the pages he "cut out" of the princess' packing and unpacking sequences. it's a nice poke at literary historians and classic novel's length, I think.

That guy really tricked me, too. x.x;;
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Postby uc pseudonym » Tue Jan 23, 2007 6:39 pm

I did enjoy the book. It was much easier to read than the unabridged version, which is cumbersome and lacks the insightful commentary of William Goldman.

Fish and Chips wrote:"...Mawiadge. Mawiadge is wot bwings uf togeva, today."

Depending on your style of humor and how tired you are at the moment, the priest can be very, very funny in different languages. Ah, the joys of DVDs. As far as other quotes go, I'm surprised no one has mentioned the battle of wits scene yet.
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Postby Yeshua-Knight » Tue Jan 23, 2007 7:04 pm

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Postby MorwenLaicoriel » Tue Jan 23, 2007 7:25 pm

uc pseudonym wrote:I did enjoy the book. It was much easier to read than the unabridged version, which is cumbersome and lacks the insightful commentary of William Goldman.


Depending on your style of humor and how tired you are at the moment, the priest can be very, very funny in different languages. Ah, the joys of DVDs. As far as other quotes go, I'm surprised no one has mentioned the battle of wits scene yet.


Oh, definately. Goldman's ending is better than the original, too.

Oh, and, just for you:
"Never go in against a Sicilian when DEATH is on the line! MWAHAHAHAAHAHAHA---*drops dead*"
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Postby Radical Dreamer » Wed Jan 24, 2007 12:52 pm

uc pseudonym wrote:Depending on your style of humor and how tired you are at the moment, the priest can be very, very funny in different languages. Ah, the joys of DVDs. As far as other quotes go, I'm surprised no one has mentioned the battle of wits scene yet.


Oh my. I never thought about watching it in different languages! XD That's one of my favorite scenes in the whole movie; I'll have to watch it some day. XD

As for the Battle of Wits...

"Truly, you have a dizzying intellect."

"Wait 'til I get going!"

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Postby Fish and Chips » Wed Jan 24, 2007 8:50 pm

Oh man, for awhile, I had the whole Battle of Wits scene memorized.
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Postby Peregrine » Wed Jan 24, 2007 9:04 pm

love love love love love that book. I saw the movie first, then read the book. It took me a while to realize there WAS no unabridged version. I loved the battle of wits, and miracle max's. I can't say I have a favorite, because there are too many. One of my favorites in the movie, though, was after they have captured Humperdink and he's been tied up. When he realizes westly is weak he says "I knew he was bluffing, I knew he was....bluffing" I replayed it over and over, laughing soooooo hard. Another one was "you fell for one of the fatal blunders! the first, is never get involved in a land war in asia, but the second, and slightly less known is never get in with a sicilian when death is on the line! muahahahahahaha! *falls over* Gosh, I love that...
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