The first time I watched FMA I had a little trouble with the circles too cuz they looked to close to pentgrams so that might be it...plus the fact of creating stuff!!!
Also everyone lay off his Dad cause he's a parent its his job to care what his son watches cuz that means he loves him-"Train up the child in the way he should go...Prov. 22:6"
Sorry to sound rude but plz be nice!
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servantzero - Posts: 10
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well for the half-joking part, my bad. i took a little seriously and overreacted. as for the other half that's true. the manga's IMO better than the anime by far.
No IMO needed: it is better (at least from what I've heard). XD
Also, I don't seem to recall quite as many 'mature' themes that Animus listed in the manga. There were alot, but I suppose it was handled differently (and thankfully the whole deal between 'Sloth' and 'Wrath' isn't in the manga). I haven't seen too much of the anime, but the manga also seems to have quite a bit of slightly more 'light-hearted' moments, which sort of balances some of those darker themes.
This has been stated several times, and I don't think I agree. I can't remember anything from RK that I thought was all that graphic (though I could have forgotten about something). Whereas FMA regularly has Scar exploding people alive. Am I missing something here?
Scar blowing people's insides out seems tame compared to much of the RK manga, where you have people regularly being decapitated, cut into pieces, split in half, having objects rammed into in their luimbs, one guy biting his nails out from the roots, etc.
FMA does have some moments of it's own, but the Scar exampled doesn't seem nearly as bad (since, as said, it usually has them being blown up from within). I'd say stuff like the guard getting the top of his face whacked off and all the damage the Hormunculi take to be worse (though the latter typically regenerate anyways).
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rurouninaruto wrote:I have no problem with the transmutation circles.
Obviously your Dad doe's! I don't see any reason why he wouldn't let you watch it.
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Best Beginning To A Review EVER: The fact that I watched this movie after eating poisonous mushrooms only went to enhance the realism
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memmer66 - Posts: 112
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my dad has no problem with the transmutation circles either! he doesn't like the violence and language of fma.
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Myoti wrote:I haven't seen too much of the anime, but the manga also seems to have quite a bit of slightly more 'light-hearted' moments, which sort of balances some of those darker themes.
They did that in the anime too. But when it was getting close to the end of the series, it was heavy on the dark themes.
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Roy Mustang - Posts: 6022
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Myoti wrote: one guy biting his nails out from the roots
Say what? I don't think I remember this one...
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"Every story must have an ending." - Auron - Final Fantasy X
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MasterDias - Posts: 2714
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MasterDias wrote:Say what? I don't think I remember this one...
Ooh, I do! XD
[SPOILER]It's that whole scene in...well, one of the Kyoto arc volumes (I wanna say vol. 11...maybe 12 or 13) where Usui starts pulling out Houji's fingernails, but Houji decides to rip them all out with his teeth instead, to show his loyalty to "Shishio-sama". Yeah. It was pretty nasteh. O_o[/SPOILER]
Still, with Anji's head-squishing techniques and the frequent soldier getting sliced in half...I'd have to say Kenshin's the more graphically violent of the two, from what I've heard of FMA. XD
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uc pseudonym wrote:The Japanese romanization of Fullmetal Alchemist is Hagane no Renkinjutsushi, so I assume "Hagaren" is an abbreviation of that.
Indeed.
Rather superfluous with "FMA" available, in my opinion, but that's beside the point.
Sorry; force of habit.
I'll again pose the question to ruruoninaruto; what is it about Fullmetal Alchemist that you liked?
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Animus Seed - Posts: 430
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memmer66 wrote:Obviously your Dad doe's! I don't see any reason why he wouldn't let you watch it.
Memmer, lay off the subject about his dad. He's looking for alternatives to FMA, not for people to question his father's authority.
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Mr. SmartyPants - Posts: 12541
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rurouninaruto wrote:my dad has no problem with the transmutation circles either! he doesn't like the violence and language of fma.
i still don't understand why you're allowed to watch or read rurouni kenshin and naruto but not watch FMA? i say that if your dad's not letting you watch it, just wait a year or two and then you'll probably be old enough to watch the anime. for now, just stick with some other anime. you have plenty of excellent choices to choose from.
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- Abraham Kuyper
"God the great Creator of all things doth uphold, direct, dispose, and govern all creatures, actions, and things, from the greatest even to the least, by His most wise and holy providence, according to His infallible foreknowledge and the free and immutable counsel of His own will, to the praise of the glory of His wisdom, power, justice, goodness, and mercy."
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- R.C. Sproul
"All of Christian life is ceaseless worship of God the Father, through the mediatorship of God the Son, by the indwelling power of God the Spirit, doing what God commands in Scripture, not doing what God forbids in Scripture, in culturally contextualized ways, for the furtherance of the Gospel, when both gathered for adoration, and scattered for action, in joyous response to God's glorious grace."
- Mark Driscoll
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Yeah I think we should all respect what his dad says and not bother bringing it up anymore and find something that both would enjoy in its stead.
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here are some of my recommendations for animes that could be an alternative for FMA:
getbackers (see review)
samurai 7 (already recommended. see review)
yu yu hakusho (see review. if your dad doesn't like the stuff in FMA then it'd be best to watch the edited version of this anime)
getbackers (see review)
samurai 7 (already recommended. see review)
yu yu hakusho (see review. if your dad doesn't like the stuff in FMA then it'd be best to watch the edited version of this anime)
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- John MacArthur
"In the total expanse of the human life, there is not a single square inch of which Christ, who alone is sovereign, does not declare, 'That is mine'."
- Abraham Kuyper
"God the great Creator of all things doth uphold, direct, dispose, and govern all creatures, actions, and things, from the greatest even to the least, by His most wise and holy providence, according to His infallible foreknowledge and the free and immutable counsel of His own will, to the praise of the glory of His wisdom, power, justice, goodness, and mercy."
- Westminister Confession of Faith (Chapter 5, Section 1)
"The wisdom of God has found a way for the love of God to deliver sinners from the wrath of God all the while upholding the righteousness of God!!"
- John Piper
"Grace is the pleasure of God to magnify the worth of God by giving sinners the right and power to delight in God without obscuring the glory of God!"
-John Piper
"The very One from Whom we need to be saved, is the One Who has saved us."
- R.C. Sproul
"All of Christian life is ceaseless worship of God the Father, through the mediatorship of God the Son, by the indwelling power of God the Spirit, doing what God commands in Scripture, not doing what God forbids in Scripture, in culturally contextualized ways, for the furtherance of the Gospel, when both gathered for adoration, and scattered for action, in joyous response to God's glorious grace."
- Mark Driscoll
"Believers do not pray with the view of informing God about things unknown to Him, or of exciting Him to do His duty, or of urging Him as though He were reluctant. On the contrary, they pray in order that they may arouse themselves to seek Him, that they may exercise their faith in meditating on His promises, that they may relieve themselves from their anxieties by pouring them into His bosom; in a word, that they may declare that from Him alone they hope and expect, both for themselves and for others, all good things."
- Martin Luther
"I have to tell you first that I am ready to die. I have put my affairs in order. Your supreme weapon is killing. My supreme weapon is dying, because when you kill me, people all over Romania will read my books and believe on the God that I preach - even more than they do now."
- Dr. Joseph Ton, the exiled Romanian pastor (quoted by James Montgomery Boice)
"The best prayer I ever prayed had enough sin in it to condemn the whole world."
- John Bunyan
"If the Christian has lost sight of Calvary, that shows that he has lost his way."
- J.I. Packer[/SIZE]
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"Sometimes we don't present the Gospel well enough for the non-elect to reject it."
- John MacArthur
"In the total expanse of the human life, there is not a single square inch of which Christ, who alone is sovereign, does not declare, 'That is mine'."
- Abraham Kuyper
"God the great Creator of all things doth uphold, direct, dispose, and govern all creatures, actions, and things, from the greatest even to the least, by His most wise and holy providence, according to His infallible foreknowledge and the free and immutable counsel of His own will, to the praise of the glory of His wisdom, power, justice, goodness, and mercy."
- Westminister Confession of Faith (Chapter 5, Section 1)
"The wisdom of God has found a way for the love of God to deliver sinners from the wrath of God all the while upholding the righteousness of God!!"
- John Piper
"Grace is the pleasure of God to magnify the worth of God by giving sinners the right and power to delight in God without obscuring the glory of God!"
-John Piper
"The very One from Whom we need to be saved, is the One Who has saved us."
- R.C. Sproul
"All of Christian life is ceaseless worship of God the Father, through the mediatorship of God the Son, by the indwelling power of God the Spirit, doing what God commands in Scripture, not doing what God forbids in Scripture, in culturally contextualized ways, for the furtherance of the Gospel, when both gathered for adoration, and scattered for action, in joyous response to God's glorious grace."
- Mark Driscoll
"Believers do not pray with the view of informing God about things unknown to Him, or of exciting Him to do His duty, or of urging Him as though He were reluctant. On the contrary, they pray in order that they may arouse themselves to seek Him, that they may exercise their faith in meditating on His promises, that they may relieve themselves from their anxieties by pouring them into His bosom; in a word, that they may declare that from Him alone they hope and expect, both for themselves and for others, all good things."
- Martin Luther
"I have to tell you first that I am ready to die. I have put my affairs in order. Your supreme weapon is killing. My supreme weapon is dying, because when you kill me, people all over Romania will read my books and believe on the God that I preach - even more than they do now."
- Dr. Joseph Ton, the exiled Romanian pastor (quoted by James Montgomery Boice)
"The best prayer I ever prayed had enough sin in it to condemn the whole world."
- John Bunyan
"If the Christian has lost sight of Calvary, that shows that he has lost his way."
- J.I. Packer[/SIZE]
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Radical Dreamer wrote:Ooh, I do! XD
[SPOILER]It's that whole scene in...well, one of the Kyoto arc volumes (I wanna say vol. 11...maybe 12 or 13) where Usui starts pulling out Houji's fingernails, but Houji decides to rip them all out with his teeth instead, to show his loyalty to "Shishio-sama". Yeah. It was pretty nasteh. O_o[/SPOILER]
Still, with Anji's head-squishing techniques and the frequent soldier getting sliced in half...I'd have to say Kenshin's the more graphically violent of the two, from what I've heard of FMA. XD
Oh, that. Now I recall it. It must not have registered with me that strongly the first time I read it.
Although, I wouldn't say people getting sliced in half is very "frequent." You can probably count all of the instances of that happening on about one hand.
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"Every story must have an ending." - Auron - Final Fantasy X
"A small stone may make a ripple at first, but someday it will be a wave." - Wiegraf - Final Fantasy Tactics
"Always seek to do good to one another and to all."
1 Thessalonians 5:15
"Every story must have an ending." - Auron - Final Fantasy X
"A small stone may make a ripple at first, but someday it will be a wave." - Wiegraf - Final Fantasy Tactics
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MasterDias - Posts: 2714
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there was also a beheading in rurouni kenshin early on into the series (volume 2) so yeah. that was pretty surprising.
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"Sometimes we don't present the Gospel well enough for the non-elect to reject it."
- John MacArthur
"In the total expanse of the human life, there is not a single square inch of which Christ, who alone is sovereign, does not declare, 'That is mine'."
- Abraham Kuyper
"God the great Creator of all things doth uphold, direct, dispose, and govern all creatures, actions, and things, from the greatest even to the least, by His most wise and holy providence, according to His infallible foreknowledge and the free and immutable counsel of His own will, to the praise of the glory of His wisdom, power, justice, goodness, and mercy."
- Westminister Confession of Faith (Chapter 5, Section 1)
"The wisdom of God has found a way for the love of God to deliver sinners from the wrath of God all the while upholding the righteousness of God!!"
- John Piper
"Grace is the pleasure of God to magnify the worth of God by giving sinners the right and power to delight in God without obscuring the glory of God!"
-John Piper
"The very One from Whom we need to be saved, is the One Who has saved us."
- R.C. Sproul
"All of Christian life is ceaseless worship of God the Father, through the mediatorship of God the Son, by the indwelling power of God the Spirit, doing what God commands in Scripture, not doing what God forbids in Scripture, in culturally contextualized ways, for the furtherance of the Gospel, when both gathered for adoration, and scattered for action, in joyous response to God's glorious grace."
- Mark Driscoll
"Believers do not pray with the view of informing God about things unknown to Him, or of exciting Him to do His duty, or of urging Him as though He were reluctant. On the contrary, they pray in order that they may arouse themselves to seek Him, that they may exercise their faith in meditating on His promises, that they may relieve themselves from their anxieties by pouring them into His bosom; in a word, that they may declare that from Him alone they hope and expect, both for themselves and for others, all good things."
- Martin Luther
"I have to tell you first that I am ready to die. I have put my affairs in order. Your supreme weapon is killing. My supreme weapon is dying, because when you kill me, people all over Romania will read my books and believe on the God that I preach - even more than they do now."
- Dr. Joseph Ton, the exiled Romanian pastor (quoted by James Montgomery Boice)
"The best prayer I ever prayed had enough sin in it to condemn the whole world."
- John Bunyan
"If the Christian has lost sight of Calvary, that shows that he has lost his way."
- J.I. Packer[/SIZE]
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"Sometimes we don't present the Gospel well enough for the non-elect to reject it."
- John MacArthur
"In the total expanse of the human life, there is not a single square inch of which Christ, who alone is sovereign, does not declare, 'That is mine'."
- Abraham Kuyper
"God the great Creator of all things doth uphold, direct, dispose, and govern all creatures, actions, and things, from the greatest even to the least, by His most wise and holy providence, according to His infallible foreknowledge and the free and immutable counsel of His own will, to the praise of the glory of His wisdom, power, justice, goodness, and mercy."
- Westminister Confession of Faith (Chapter 5, Section 1)
"The wisdom of God has found a way for the love of God to deliver sinners from the wrath of God all the while upholding the righteousness of God!!"
- John Piper
"Grace is the pleasure of God to magnify the worth of God by giving sinners the right and power to delight in God without obscuring the glory of God!"
-John Piper
"The very One from Whom we need to be saved, is the One Who has saved us."
- R.C. Sproul
"All of Christian life is ceaseless worship of God the Father, through the mediatorship of God the Son, by the indwelling power of God the Spirit, doing what God commands in Scripture, not doing what God forbids in Scripture, in culturally contextualized ways, for the furtherance of the Gospel, when both gathered for adoration, and scattered for action, in joyous response to God's glorious grace."
- Mark Driscoll
"Believers do not pray with the view of informing God about things unknown to Him, or of exciting Him to do His duty, or of urging Him as though He were reluctant. On the contrary, they pray in order that they may arouse themselves to seek Him, that they may exercise their faith in meditating on His promises, that they may relieve themselves from their anxieties by pouring them into His bosom; in a word, that they may declare that from Him alone they hope and expect, both for themselves and for others, all good things."
- Martin Luther
"I have to tell you first that I am ready to die. I have put my affairs in order. Your supreme weapon is killing. My supreme weapon is dying, because when you kill me, people all over Romania will read my books and believe on the God that I preach - even more than they do now."
- Dr. Joseph Ton, the exiled Romanian pastor (quoted by James Montgomery Boice)
"The best prayer I ever prayed had enough sin in it to condemn the whole world."
- John Bunyan
"If the Christian has lost sight of Calvary, that shows that he has lost his way."
- J.I. Packer[/SIZE]
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Myoti wrote:Scar blowing people's insides out seems tame compared to much of the RK manga, where you have people regularly being decapitated, cut into pieces, split in half, having objects rammed into in their luimbs, one guy biting his nails out from the roots, etc.
For some reason, barely any of this made much of an impact on me. I guess I felt it wasn't presented in a manner that was disgusting (like the last, for example) because the gore wasn't emphasized. The only thing I remember wincing at is when Saito's sword goes into the long-armed mining guy's arm in the last arc.
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[quote="KhakiBlueSocks"]That's hitting the nail on the head, more or less. FMA isn't that bad, and it falls within your age group! It's PG for crying in the mud! Unless your dad has an issue with alchemy or the semi-mild language than FMA is as clean as you can get!
Well actually, It TV-14, which is bit of a difference since it is highly recommended to older teens. And probably his father may think its witchcraft. Not to mention Ed is agnostic. Probably, your dad may think its full of witchcraft and stuff like that.
Well actually, It TV-14, which is bit of a difference since it is highly recommended to older teens. And probably his father may think its witchcraft. Not to mention Ed is agnostic. Probably, your dad may think its full of witchcraft and stuff like that.
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sapphire225 wrote:Well actually, It TV-14, which is bit of a difference since it is highly recommended to older teens. And probably his father may think its witchcraft. Not to mention Ed is agnostic. Probably, your dad may think its full of witchcraft and stuff like that.
actually, rurouninaruto said that his dad only had an issue with the language and violence. he didn't really mind the alchemy...
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"Sometimes we don't present the Gospel well enough for the non-elect to reject it."
- John MacArthur
"In the total expanse of the human life, there is not a single square inch of which Christ, who alone is sovereign, does not declare, 'That is mine'."
- Abraham Kuyper
"God the great Creator of all things doth uphold, direct, dispose, and govern all creatures, actions, and things, from the greatest even to the least, by His most wise and holy providence, according to His infallible foreknowledge and the free and immutable counsel of His own will, to the praise of the glory of His wisdom, power, justice, goodness, and mercy."
- Westminister Confession of Faith (Chapter 5, Section 1)
"The wisdom of God has found a way for the love of God to deliver sinners from the wrath of God all the while upholding the righteousness of God!!"
- John Piper
"Grace is the pleasure of God to magnify the worth of God by giving sinners the right and power to delight in God without obscuring the glory of God!"
-John Piper
"The very One from Whom we need to be saved, is the One Who has saved us."
- R.C. Sproul
"All of Christian life is ceaseless worship of God the Father, through the mediatorship of God the Son, by the indwelling power of God the Spirit, doing what God commands in Scripture, not doing what God forbids in Scripture, in culturally contextualized ways, for the furtherance of the Gospel, when both gathered for adoration, and scattered for action, in joyous response to God's glorious grace."
- Mark Driscoll
"Believers do not pray with the view of informing God about things unknown to Him, or of exciting Him to do His duty, or of urging Him as though He were reluctant. On the contrary, they pray in order that they may arouse themselves to seek Him, that they may exercise their faith in meditating on His promises, that they may relieve themselves from their anxieties by pouring them into His bosom; in a word, that they may declare that from Him alone they hope and expect, both for themselves and for others, all good things."
- Martin Luther
"I have to tell you first that I am ready to die. I have put my affairs in order. Your supreme weapon is killing. My supreme weapon is dying, because when you kill me, people all over Romania will read my books and believe on the God that I preach - even more than they do now."
- Dr. Joseph Ton, the exiled Romanian pastor (quoted by James Montgomery Boice)
"The best prayer I ever prayed had enough sin in it to condemn the whole world."
- John Bunyan
"If the Christian has lost sight of Calvary, that shows that he has lost his way."
- J.I. Packer[/SIZE]
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"Sometimes we don't present the Gospel well enough for the non-elect to reject it."
- John MacArthur
"In the total expanse of the human life, there is not a single square inch of which Christ, who alone is sovereign, does not declare, 'That is mine'."
- Abraham Kuyper
"God the great Creator of all things doth uphold, direct, dispose, and govern all creatures, actions, and things, from the greatest even to the least, by His most wise and holy providence, according to His infallible foreknowledge and the free and immutable counsel of His own will, to the praise of the glory of His wisdom, power, justice, goodness, and mercy."
- Westminister Confession of Faith (Chapter 5, Section 1)
"The wisdom of God has found a way for the love of God to deliver sinners from the wrath of God all the while upholding the righteousness of God!!"
- John Piper
"Grace is the pleasure of God to magnify the worth of God by giving sinners the right and power to delight in God without obscuring the glory of God!"
-John Piper
"The very One from Whom we need to be saved, is the One Who has saved us."
- R.C. Sproul
"All of Christian life is ceaseless worship of God the Father, through the mediatorship of God the Son, by the indwelling power of God the Spirit, doing what God commands in Scripture, not doing what God forbids in Scripture, in culturally contextualized ways, for the furtherance of the Gospel, when both gathered for adoration, and scattered for action, in joyous response to God's glorious grace."
- Mark Driscoll
"Believers do not pray with the view of informing God about things unknown to Him, or of exciting Him to do His duty, or of urging Him as though He were reluctant. On the contrary, they pray in order that they may arouse themselves to seek Him, that they may exercise their faith in meditating on His promises, that they may relieve themselves from their anxieties by pouring them into His bosom; in a word, that they may declare that from Him alone they hope and expect, both for themselves and for others, all good things."
- Martin Luther
"I have to tell you first that I am ready to die. I have put my affairs in order. Your supreme weapon is killing. My supreme weapon is dying, because when you kill me, people all over Romania will read my books and believe on the God that I preach - even more than they do now."
- Dr. Joseph Ton, the exiled Romanian pastor (quoted by James Montgomery Boice)
"The best prayer I ever prayed had enough sin in it to condemn the whole world."
- John Bunyan
"If the Christian has lost sight of Calvary, that shows that he has lost his way."
- J.I. Packer[/SIZE]
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