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Postby jon_jinn » Fri Oct 13, 2006 3:21 pm

yeah. i'm looking for a new game to play. an RPG to be exact. however, i'm quite impatient with video games and i'm looking for an RPG that's not too hard, but not exactly the easiest. an RPG that doesn't lose one's interest too quickly and doesn't take forever to beat. the type of RPG you can beat before you start to lose interest in the game. so yeah. if you can recommend an RPG for either gamecube, ps2, or gba, that'd be great.
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Postby Jingo Jaden » Fri Oct 13, 2006 3:25 pm

Hmmm, for the GC its the tactical rpg called Fire Emblem path of radiance. I found it amuseing and inntresting at times, though I am not sure everyone shares my opinion.
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Postby Tommy » Fri Oct 13, 2006 3:52 pm

Dude, remember when I recommended Grandia II? Now is the perfect time to get it. Best RPG on the PS2 and the battle system is the best there is.

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Postby MasterDias » Fri Oct 13, 2006 4:00 pm

jon_jinn wrote:yeah. i'm looking for a new game to play. an RPG to be exact. however, i'm quite impatient with video games and i'm looking for an RPG that's not too hard, but not exactly the easiest. an RPG that doesn't lose one's interest too quickly and doesn't take forever to beat. the type of RPG you can beat before you start to lose interest in the game. so yeah. if you can recommend an RPG for either gamecube, ps2, or gba, that'd be great.


Your criteria is somewhat vague. What are some examples of RPGs you have liked/played? What type of RPGs do you prefer?

Valkyrie Profile 2: Silmeria and Tales of the Abyss just came out in the US, but Silmeria is supposed to be fairly difficult, and TotA should probably be about the length of the average RPG.

Riviera: The Promised Land for the GBA is good, but fairly unconventional in certain aspects of gameplay so everyone isn't necessarily going to like it.

The Fire Emblem series is great, but it all depends on whether or not you are good at strategy and taking advantage of the game's systems.

Also, how much cash are you willing to spend?
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Postby jon_jinn » Fri Oct 13, 2006 4:13 pm

MasterDias wrote:Your criteria is somewhat vague. What are some examples of RPGs you have liked/played? What type of RPGs do you prefer?

Valkyrie Profile 2: Silmeria and Tales of the Abyss just came out in the US, but Silmeria is supposed to be fairly difficult, and TotA should probably be about the length of the average RPG.

Riviera: The Promised Land for the GBA is good, but fairly unconventional in certain aspects of gameplay so everyone isn't necessarily going to like it.

The Fire Emblem series is great, but it all depends on whether or not you are good at strategy and taking advantage of the game's systems.

Also, how much cash are you willing to spend?


yeah. after i made my post, i sorta felt that i should've posted some RPGs i've played and enjoyed. anyways, here's a list of RPG games i've played:

golden sun one and two - beat and loved

mario and luigi supersaga - beat the game and loved it.

fire emblem, f.e. sacred stones, and path of radiance - beat and enjoyed (not that much of a strategy game fan however)

ffx - got fairly fair through the game before i gave up because the boss was too hard and annoying.

kingdom hearts - got fairly fair through the game before i gave up because the enemies were too strong and i got stuck.

tales of symphonia - didn't even get to the second disk before i stopped playing it because it was sorta boring and i was stuck.

ffVIII - got about halfway through the second disk before i stopped playing it because it lost my interest.

xenosaga - didn't get that far in this game. too challenging, the movies are too long, the battle system's unusual (to me), the game was simply not the type of game i enjoyed.

so yeah. that's why i'm asking for a shorter RPG that's not too challenging but still interesting. as for cash, any game around $30 or less please. i'm not that big of a money spender. if it's an interesting game that's too expensive, i just wait til the price goes down.
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Postby TriezGamer » Sat Oct 14, 2006 6:33 am

If you have no problems with religious themes and dated graphics, pick up Lunar. It's only about 20 hours long.

Edit: Grandia II is awesome, but the Dreamcast version is way better than the PS2 version. Good luck finding a copy though. I have one, but my DC drive crapped out on me.
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Postby Tommy » Sat Oct 14, 2006 8:40 am

JON JINN! GRANDIA II!!!!!!!

After reading the list of RPGs you like, I'm even more certain you will like it.

I have never played the DreamCast version and have always wondered how it was superior?

The PS2 version is an amazing game, so I'd LOVE to the see the DC version.

It's not too challenging at all and is VERY interesting. I only got stuck on one boss andt hat was because I was underleveled.

Dude, I STRONGLY recommend this game to you.
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Postby uc pseudonym » Sat Oct 14, 2006 2:42 pm

I'd recommend a fair number of the titles already listed here, but to get another type of RPG entirely:

Paper Mario 2 (or 1, if you have a 64)

If you want a game that isn't too difficult and is fairly light overall, this is a good choice. Yet it still has a certain amount of strategic depth and there are some optional challenges that are rather difficult. Because of how involved you are in the combat system (which is turn-based but also includes elements of skill) things remain involving despite the sometimes low difficulty level. Plus, for me at least, the games are simply fun.
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Postby jon_jinn » Sat Oct 14, 2006 8:06 pm

Tom Dincht wrote:JON JINN! GRANDIA II!!!!!!!

After reading the list of RPGs you like, I'm even more certain you will like it.

I have never played the DreamCast version and have always wondered how it was superior?

The PS2 version is an amazing game, so I'd LOVE to the see the DC version.

It's not too challenging at all and is VERY interesting. I only got stuck on one boss andt hat was because I was underleveled.

Dude, I STRONGLY recommend this game to you.


right now, i'm probably gonna get grandia II. though i was already planning on getting the game, it sorta slipped my mind.
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Postby Tommy » Sun Oct 15, 2006 6:45 am

Tom: 01 point.

Yeah, Jon, I bet you'll love it. I forgot to add, it's not that long either and the battle system is ground breaking.

If you do purchase it, I hope you love it to the fullest. ;)
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Postby Destroyer2000 » Sun Oct 15, 2006 12:04 pm

FFX, hard? What boss were you stuck on? A good RPG if you have a SNES is Earthbound. I've played for almost 3 days now, and am throughly obsessed.
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Postby TriezGamer » Sun Oct 15, 2006 2:44 pm

Tom Dincht wrote:I have never played the DreamCast version and have always wondered how it was superior?

The PS2 version is an amazing game, so I'd LOVE to the see the DC version.


The differences are all visual. To quote the IGN review: "The PS2 port takes a mild hit in terms of texture quality, especially in less conspicuous background areas, and it's a good deal rougher around the edges, with a bit more aliasing and a lot more interlace flicker in certain areas."

I think they're being overly nice with that statement, but the whole thing can be summed up as: the DC visuals are a LOT cleaner.
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Postby jon_jinn » Sun Oct 15, 2006 4:28 pm

Destroyer2000 wrote:FFX, hard? What boss were you stuck on?


well, i got stuck on yunalesca. i could never beat her third form. my friends said that holy would make it a lot easier to beat her but the whole time, i was borrowing my friends ffx and he wanted it back so i never got a chance to beat it.

Tom Dincht wrote:Tom: 01 point.

Yeah, Jon, I bet you'll love it. I forgot to add, it's not that long either and the battle system is ground breaking.

If you do purchase it, I hope you love it to the fullest.


so, how long do you think the game is?
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Postby Tommy » Sun Oct 15, 2006 6:36 pm

It took me a week, but that was a week where we got an entire week off of school because there was a snowstorm and the snow piled on the ground was 2 feet high.

Translation: I was stuck inside my house ALL week.

I would guess I beat it in 30 hours and I was at Level 60.
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Postby Myoti » Sun Oct 15, 2006 7:34 pm

As UC said, Paper Mario is great, especially the GC one.

If you have a GBA/DS, try one of the Mario and Luigi games, as they're both quite fun and unique as well.

Another good one for GBA would be Sigma Star Saga. It should be pretty cheap now (got mine used for $10), but it's still a pretty unique and fun game. All random battles and boss battles are ship battles, kind of like Gradius. It's pretty good. =o
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Postby jon_jinn » Mon Oct 16, 2006 3:41 pm

yeah. i'm considering paper mario: the thousand year door for gc too because i remember playing the paper mario for n64 and it was awesome. and the game's pretty cheap now so yeah.
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Postby Tommy » Mon Oct 16, 2006 3:48 pm

TOO. You're getting it AS WELL as Grandia II, correct?
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Postby jon_jinn » Mon Oct 16, 2006 4:14 pm

Tom Dincht wrote:TOO. You're getting it AS WELL as Grandia II, correct?


yeah. i'm on ebay right now looking for grandia II :thumb:. paper mario's another maybe for later on.
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"Believers do not pray with the view of informing God about things unknown to Him, or of exciting Him to do His duty, or of urging Him as though He were reluctant. On the contrary, they pray in order that they may arouse themselves to seek Him, that they may exercise their faith in meditating on His promises, that they may relieve themselves from their anxieties by pouring them into His bosom; in a word, that they may declare that from Him alone they hope and expect, both for themselves and for others, all good things."
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Postby uc pseudonym » Mon Oct 16, 2006 4:14 pm

jon_jinn wrote:yeah. i'm considering paper mario: the thousand year door for gc too because i remember playing the paper mario for n64 and it was awesome. and the game's pretty cheap now so yeah.

Ah. If you liked the original then I strongly recommend Thousand Year Door. I felt it was superior in basically every respect without losing the qualities of the first (though there may be a few preferential things). Improved combat system, slightly more depth as far as strategy goes, a solid plot (whether it is better is a matter of opinion).

Plus, they removed the Level 30 cap. I blitzed through it and didn't have much time for other challenges, but I'm sure that this would add significantly to the play value after the end of the game.
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Postby Tommy » Thu Oct 19, 2006 4:16 pm

I've played some of Thousand Year Door, and while it was a good game I strongly recommend Grandia II over it.

Thousand Year Door to me felt strongly identical to the 64 version anyways.
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Postby jon_jinn » Thu Oct 19, 2006 5:07 pm

Tom Dincht wrote:I've played some of Thousand Year Door, and while it was a good game I strongly recommend Grandia II over it.

Thousand Year Door to me felt strongly identical to the 64 version anyways.


okay. i have decided to get Grandia II. thank you for all your recommendations (especially Tom Dincht).
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"In the total expanse of the human life, there is not a single square inch of which Christ, who alone is sovereign, does not declare, 'That is mine'."
- Abraham Kuyper

"God the great Creator of all things doth uphold, direct, dispose, and govern all creatures, actions, and things, from the greatest even to the least, by His most wise and holy providence, according to His infallible foreknowledge and the free and immutable counsel of His own will, to the praise of the glory of His wisdom, power, justice, goodness, and mercy."
- Westminister Confession of Faith (Chapter 5, Section 1)

"The wisdom of God has found a way for the love of God to deliver sinners from the wrath of God all the while upholding the righteousness of God!!"
- John Piper

"Grace is the pleasure of God to magnify the worth of God by giving sinners the right and power to delight in God without obscuring the glory of God!"
-John Piper

"The very One from Whom we need to be saved, is the One Who has saved us."
- R.C. Sproul

"All of Christian life is ceaseless worship of God the Father, through the mediatorship of God the Son, by the indwelling power of God the Spirit, doing what God commands in Scripture, not doing what God forbids in Scripture, in culturally contextualized ways, for the furtherance of the Gospel, when both gathered for adoration, and scattered for action, in joyous response to God's glorious grace."
- Mark Driscoll

"Believers do not pray with the view of informing God about things unknown to Him, or of exciting Him to do His duty, or of urging Him as though He were reluctant. On the contrary, they pray in order that they may arouse themselves to seek Him, that they may exercise their faith in meditating on His promises, that they may relieve themselves from their anxieties by pouring them into His bosom; in a word, that they may declare that from Him alone they hope and expect, both for themselves and for others, all good things."
- Martin Luther

"I have to tell you first that I am ready to die. I have put my affairs in order. Your supreme weapon is killing. My supreme weapon is dying, because when you kill me, people all over Romania will read my books and believe on the God that I preach - even more than they do now."
- Dr. Joseph Ton, the exiled Romanian pastor (quoted by James Montgomery Boice)

"The best prayer I ever prayed had enough sin in it to condemn the whole world."
- John Bunyan

"If the Christian has lost sight of Calvary, that shows that he has lost his way."
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Postby Tommy » Fri Oct 20, 2006 4:40 am

You should get Thousand Year Door as well though, I just thought you would like Grandia II over it.

By the way, do religious themes bother you? There are some in Grandia II, but as we both know, none are in Mario. If you have any questions, PM me.
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Postby jon_jinn » Fri Oct 20, 2006 4:54 pm

Tom Dincht wrote:You should get Thousand Year Door as well though, I just thought you would like Grandia II over it.

By the way, do religious themes bother you? There are some in Grandia II, but as we both know, none are in Mario. If you have any questions, PM me.


okay. i'll be sure to remember thousand year door whenever i find myself in a situation where i don't have any video games to play. religious themes aren't that big of a deal to me as long as they aren't too extreme. i mean, i can put up with the "magic" content in most of your RPGs but there is a line for me.
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"Sometimes we don't present the Gospel well enough for the non-elect to reject it."
- John MacArthur

"In the total expanse of the human life, there is not a single square inch of which Christ, who alone is sovereign, does not declare, 'That is mine'."
- Abraham Kuyper

"God the great Creator of all things doth uphold, direct, dispose, and govern all creatures, actions, and things, from the greatest even to the least, by His most wise and holy providence, according to His infallible foreknowledge and the free and immutable counsel of His own will, to the praise of the glory of His wisdom, power, justice, goodness, and mercy."
- Westminister Confession of Faith (Chapter 5, Section 1)

"The wisdom of God has found a way for the love of God to deliver sinners from the wrath of God all the while upholding the righteousness of God!!"
- John Piper

"Grace is the pleasure of God to magnify the worth of God by giving sinners the right and power to delight in God without obscuring the glory of God!"
-John Piper

"The very One from Whom we need to be saved, is the One Who has saved us."
- R.C. Sproul

"All of Christian life is ceaseless worship of God the Father, through the mediatorship of God the Son, by the indwelling power of God the Spirit, doing what God commands in Scripture, not doing what God forbids in Scripture, in culturally contextualized ways, for the furtherance of the Gospel, when both gathered for adoration, and scattered for action, in joyous response to God's glorious grace."
- Mark Driscoll

"Believers do not pray with the view of informing God about things unknown to Him, or of exciting Him to do His duty, or of urging Him as though He were reluctant. On the contrary, they pray in order that they may arouse themselves to seek Him, that they may exercise their faith in meditating on His promises, that they may relieve themselves from their anxieties by pouring them into His bosom; in a word, that they may declare that from Him alone they hope and expect, both for themselves and for others, all good things."
- Martin Luther

"I have to tell you first that I am ready to die. I have put my affairs in order. Your supreme weapon is killing. My supreme weapon is dying, because when you kill me, people all over Romania will read my books and believe on the God that I preach - even more than they do now."
- Dr. Joseph Ton, the exiled Romanian pastor (quoted by James Montgomery Boice)

"The best prayer I ever prayed had enough sin in it to condemn the whole world."
- John Bunyan

"If the Christian has lost sight of Calvary, that shows that he has lost his way."
- J.I. Packer[/SIZE]
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Postby Tommy » Sat Oct 21, 2006 11:34 am

Well, as far as the religion thing goes, I can't tell you anything without giving out spoilers. Just keep in mind, it takes place in a fictional world and nothing that happens there is real.

The only thing I can tell you that is covered in the opening movie is that a God of Light and Darkness battled each other. The God of Light used his sword and cut a giant valley in the Earth that created a canyon believed to have destroyed the God of Dark.

There is a religious movement in the game that follows the teachings of the Lord of Light, Granas. The main character is a mercenery that is hired to transport one of the preistesses to a certain area so a ritual can commence.

That's all I can give away.
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Postby jon_jinn » Sun Oct 22, 2006 2:37 pm

Tom Dincht wrote:Well, as far as the religion thing goes, I can't tell you anything without giving out spoilers. Just keep in mind, it takes place in a fictional world and nothing that happens there is real.

The only thing I can tell you that is covered in the opening movie is that a God of Light and Darkness battled each other. The God of Light used his sword and cut a giant valley in the Earth that created a canyon believed to have destroyed the God of Dark.

There is a religious movement in the game that follows the teachings of the Lord of Light, Granas. The main character is a mercenery that is hired to transport one of the preistesses to a certain area so a ritual can commence.

That's all I can give away.


that's fine. it's all fantasy and shouldn't be taken seriously so it's nothing big. :thumb:
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"Sometimes we don't present the Gospel well enough for the non-elect to reject it."
- John MacArthur

"In the total expanse of the human life, there is not a single square inch of which Christ, who alone is sovereign, does not declare, 'That is mine'."
- Abraham Kuyper

"God the great Creator of all things doth uphold, direct, dispose, and govern all creatures, actions, and things, from the greatest even to the least, by His most wise and holy providence, according to His infallible foreknowledge and the free and immutable counsel of His own will, to the praise of the glory of His wisdom, power, justice, goodness, and mercy."
- Westminister Confession of Faith (Chapter 5, Section 1)

"The wisdom of God has found a way for the love of God to deliver sinners from the wrath of God all the while upholding the righteousness of God!!"
- John Piper

"Grace is the pleasure of God to magnify the worth of God by giving sinners the right and power to delight in God without obscuring the glory of God!"
-John Piper

"The very One from Whom we need to be saved, is the One Who has saved us."
- R.C. Sproul

"All of Christian life is ceaseless worship of God the Father, through the mediatorship of God the Son, by the indwelling power of God the Spirit, doing what God commands in Scripture, not doing what God forbids in Scripture, in culturally contextualized ways, for the furtherance of the Gospel, when both gathered for adoration, and scattered for action, in joyous response to God's glorious grace."
- Mark Driscoll

"Believers do not pray with the view of informing God about things unknown to Him, or of exciting Him to do His duty, or of urging Him as though He were reluctant. On the contrary, they pray in order that they may arouse themselves to seek Him, that they may exercise their faith in meditating on His promises, that they may relieve themselves from their anxieties by pouring them into His bosom; in a word, that they may declare that from Him alone they hope and expect, both for themselves and for others, all good things."
- Martin Luther

"I have to tell you first that I am ready to die. I have put my affairs in order. Your supreme weapon is killing. My supreme weapon is dying, because when you kill me, people all over Romania will read my books and believe on the God that I preach - even more than they do now."
- Dr. Joseph Ton, the exiled Romanian pastor (quoted by James Montgomery Boice)

"The best prayer I ever prayed had enough sin in it to condemn the whole world."
- John Bunyan

"If the Christian has lost sight of Calvary, that shows that he has lost his way."
- J.I. Packer[/SIZE]
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