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Attention Kenshin Fans!
PostPosted: Sun Jun 06, 2004 12:59 am
by Aka-chan
The good new is: this manga craze is growing so much the New York Times even had an article on it, specifically highlighting Rurouni Kenshin as one of the most popular series.
The bad news is: well, just see what they said about Kenshin when they summarized the manga!
The New York Times wrote:The open-ended, almost soap-opera-style story tells of Rurouni Kenshin's befriending a young woman and a little boy, and it alternates between humorous, vaguely romantic episodes and improbable sword fights. The hero is honorable, mysterious and, although he looks like a Spice Girl, basically invincible.
The rest of the article isn't anything particularly remarkable, but if you want to find it, go to Google News and type in "comics trip kenshin." (Normally, it's available only to subscribers, but if you Google, you can get around that for the article.)
PostPosted: Sun Jun 06, 2004 2:39 am
by TrigunX89
Yep, I've noticed newspapers usually don't give very good reviews/descriptions about anime. Ah well, I guess that's why we have CAA.
PostPosted: Sun Jun 06, 2004 6:10 am
by Sora oF KHland
What!!!
PostPosted: Sun Jun 06, 2004 6:59 am
by Spirit_Wolf8356
They called Kenshin a SPICE GIRL! Now, seriously, how hard would it have been for them to find a die-hard RK fan and get a real definition of it all.
.......soap opera my foot.
PostPosted: Sun Jun 06, 2004 7:51 am
by Kireihana
Feh. Well that's the NY Times for ya... Still, nice to see anime gaining yet more popularity stateside!
PostPosted: Sun Jun 06, 2004 9:36 am
by starstoryteller
Librals!!!!!!!!!!!! I would think convservies would have a hard time w/ anime...But the NY times Its dispicable
On top of that calling him....a......spice..GIRL?! why I am I a
moron
Hey Watsuki was trying to give him a girlsh look to be get a way form the usal sameri look and make some thing difernt and unique thats it the
New York times soul be.....
forever
P.S. don't worry I was just doing it to be silly
althowe I am not that impressed with them....they sould at lest see him when he goes battosai....there is nouthing spice girlsh about that... he's hot
mutter mutter i can't bevlive i said that.
PostPosted: Sun Jun 06, 2004 9:50 am
by starstoryteller
aculy we sould read the rest of aricel becase it talks about why some kids prever Japan stuff over the american stuff because we're jaded w/ the american ponit of view. I always thought that anime attraced ppl w/ abstract point of views.
PostPosted: Sun Jun 06, 2004 10:17 am
by Mr_Anderson
ya shuda made this thread after the best bishie contest, kenshin might get simpathy votes
PostPosted: Sun Jun 06, 2004 11:22 am
by Mave
starstoryteller wrote:Hey Watsuki was trying to give him a girlsh look to be get a way form the usal sameri look and make some thing difernt and unique thats it the
Actually, from what I understand, the character design of Kenshin is based on an actual historical "hitokiri", called Kawakami Gensai, who happened to look more feminine than usual.
Kawakami Gensai
"Kawakami Gensai, one of the four great Hitokiri of the Bakumatsu, could be mistaken for a girl at first glance, but his nature was the complete opposite of his appearance]Watsuki's Character Notes[/U]
The following is quoted off of Shonen Jump's RK graphic novel translations of Watsuki:
"Himura Kenshin. Based somewhat on the actual Hitokiri,Kawakami Gensai. Sort Of. Except Totally Different. Kawakami Gensai was one of the four great Hitokiri, or assassins of the revolutionary (Bakamatsu) period. He was short and skinny and could be mistaken at first glance for a woman. Contrary to his appearance, though, he was clever and clear-headed despite being most dreaded among all of the hitokiri.
Master of an original sword-style called "Shiranui-Ryu," Kawakami is famous for felling the graet idealist Sakuma Shozan in one swing, in mid-day. Kawakami is nevertheless a mysterious figure, however, as there are no certain records of his other assassinations.
After the revolution-and unableto let go of the idea that Japan should remain closed to the world-Kawakami found himself in frequent conflict with the revolutionary government. Ultimately, he was accused of a crime he did not commit and executed in the 4th year of Meiji.
As I researched further, it began to occur to me that the story wasn't so clear cut and dried. What this hitokiri could not let go of was his duty to his fallen comrades, and to the men that he had killed. It's this that gave me the initial idea for the "Kenshin" character. As for the others, there is the selflessness of okita Soshi of the Shinsengumi and the mysterious quality of Saito Hajime...but, then again, who knows.
In terms of graphic designs, I had no real motif. The main character of my debut work was a tall, black-haired man in showy armor, so when I set out to design someone completely opposite of him, he ended up looking like a girl (heh). Not knowing what else to do, I put a cross-shaped scar on the left cheek. Now that same cross marks the spot at which the Battosai became Kenshin...or so I've heard!
(taken from the Oro.com)
More here...
http://www.sword.ne.jp/swordsmen/bushi/gensai.html
PostPosted: Sun Jun 06, 2004 12:01 pm
by AngelSakura
Spice.....GIRL?!?!?! KENSHIN A SPICE GIRL?!?!? This is....this is...despicable! Oh, and a soap opera? How is it like a soap opera? Oh, I see, because everyone KNOWS how many SWORD FIGHTS there are in soap operas! This is a disgrace!
PostPosted: Sun Jun 06, 2004 12:35 pm
by Pent
I am suprised at how wrong they made the review.
PostPosted: Sun Jun 06, 2004 1:07 pm
by Yeito
*GASP* I...I... I... x_x ::passes out from shock::
There is only one thing to do when people as ignorant as these say something like this.....
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LAUGH HISTERICALLY AT THE STUPIDITY OF IT ALL!!!!!!
::looks over and sees everyone staring at her::
HA HA HA!!!! ::can't help but collapse into laughter once again::
Yeito
PostPosted: Sun Jun 06, 2004 3:38 pm
by Kireihana
I'll bet they'll get some nasty letters from Kenshin fans.
PostPosted: Sun Jun 06, 2004 4:21 pm
by Hawk of Skies
Hey now, guys! Everyone's entitled to their opinion!
.......unfortuanately, theirs appears very, very, VERY wrong.
PostPosted: Sun Jun 06, 2004 4:46 pm
by Heart of Sword
SPICE GIRL?!!?!??!?!?! Just because he's got long hair doesn't mean that he looks like a SPICE GIRL.
This is ridiculous...*joins in with other people who are going Battousai on the New York Times*
PostPosted: Sun Jun 06, 2004 5:17 pm
by ShiroiHikari
o__O Spice Girl =/= Kenshin. Exclamation point.
If they're gonna be all sarcastic and "dur hur he looks like teh Spice Girl!!2" about it, then...ehhhh. Phooey on them.
PostPosted: Sun Jun 06, 2004 5:41 pm
by Mave
I'll live with it. Ppl will always be bigoted towards something they're not familiar with or understand.
Spice Girl was perhaps not one of the most appropriate terminology to use but oh well, I wonder how much the writer really knows about Spice Girls anyway.
PostPosted: Sun Jun 06, 2004 6:58 pm
by Destroyer2000
Who runs the NYT? *Glances over at bedroom where the broadsword, katana, caneknife, machete, dagger, and saber are lying on the bottom bunk.* How about I walk into their office with all that...then....I go Battousai. Mwhahaha....
Seriously, tick me off enough, and I get similarly close to what Kenshin is like when he's the Battousai. And I'm TICKED right now...
PostPosted: Sun Jun 06, 2004 7:10 pm
by Debitt
....sorry, you have to admit that Spice Girl comment got a laugh out of some of you, right? I can see it now - otakus nationwide unsubscribing to the NYTimes because of this article.
PostPosted: Sun Jun 06, 2004 7:14 pm
by Ducky
hehehe, that's funny... I wonder which spice Kenshin would be? Maybe they were referring to his great cooking skills? lol.
PostPosted: Sun Jun 06, 2004 7:42 pm
by Destroyer2000
Hm...what is their address? I'm sending a letter. Seriously, I am...they deserve pain and bad comments.
<Sarcasm (For the sake of non-reality)>Ooo....let's find Saitou, Sano, Kenshin, Aoshi, Shishio, Jine, all the Juppongatana, and some other strong Kenshin people, and sick them on New York...heh...let's get Vash, too.>
PostPosted: Mon Jun 07, 2004 6:08 am
by Heart of Sword
Yes, Destroyer-dono, let's BOTH go Battousai. ^^x
....sorry, you have to admit that Spice Girl comment got a laugh out of some of you, right? I can see it now - otakus nationwide unsubscribing to the NYTimes because of this article.
HN! You're not a Kenshin fan, so sure you laughed, but I, as a devoted Kenshin fan, do not think that article was funny. > <x
PostPosted: Mon Jun 07, 2004 11:50 am
by Mangafanatic
Come on, what did we expect? The majority of people still see manga as a past time for nerds who live in their mother's basement and spent all their free time rigging up computer viruses.
Thwack!
PostPosted: Mon Jun 07, 2004 12:05 pm
by Xavier249
Sad very Sad, I can actually sorta see how a non-anime fan like the NYT writer would think Kenshin like a spice girl.
It shows how little they care. I honestly think that the guy who wrote the article only read the back of the book or something like a short review. No way anyone, anime fan or not, could read it and liken kenshin to a spice girl. What next, Sano being like Michael Jackson?
I wouldn't go battousai, I would go all Zanza on them. Weapons are too hard to smuggle in.
(see avatar. . . )
PostPosted: Mon Jun 07, 2004 5:13 pm
by Heart of Sword
A Kenshin fan should have written that review...hn...(I've got to stop saying that, though it's catchy. Hn. Hn. HN!)
Ah,go Zanza, yes! Though the zanbato's broken...oh well...but still Sano's got his fists.
Y'know, Sano is kind of like Michael Jackson...JOKING JOKING!!!! *ducks as Xavier swings his fists at me*
PostPosted: Mon Jun 07, 2004 6:16 pm
by Mave
Aku Soku Zan!
Hiten Mitsurugi Ryuu!
Ten Ken!!
*whack whack whack*
*The offending NYT writer discovers the true nature of Ruroni Kenshin, but a little tad too late*
CAA members are finally satisfied and glomps their heroes. ^_^
Siigggh....if only
PostPosted: Mon Jun 07, 2004 7:22 pm
by Raiden no Kishi
Heh...we could call Kenshin Swordy Spice.
::runs from sakabatou-wielding fangirls/boys::
Rai
PostPosted: Mon Jun 07, 2004 7:33 pm
by Mangafanatic
dang, I'm getting out of here before someone gets a little happy-go-lucky with their sword and I loose a limb.
PostPosted: Mon Jun 07, 2004 7:48 pm
by Destroyer2000
Raiden no Kishi wrote:Heh...we could call Kenshin Swordy Spice.
::runs from sakabatou-wielding fangirls/boys::
Rai
Xavier249 wrote:Sad very Sad, I can actually sorta see how a non-anime fan like the NYT writer would think Kenshin like a spice girl.
It shows how little they care. I honestly think that the guy who wrote the article only read the back of the book or something like a short review. No way anyone, anime fan or not, could read it and liken kenshin to a spice girl. What next, Sano being like Michael Jackson?
I wouldn't go battousai, I would go all Zanza on them. Weapons are too hard to smuggle in. ]
Forget smuggling, we'll just walk in! Let someone try to stop us! Also, I'm not going to be wielding a sakabatou, I'm going to be using two kodachis, a katana, a bokken, and a pointy stick!
PostPosted: Mon Jun 07, 2004 7:51 pm
by H. Kenshin
That just ticks me off calling Kenshin a spice girl, then the show a soap opera.