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The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya
PostPosted: Wed Jun 22, 2011 9:00 pm
by Lynna
So...I just started watching a few episodes today. I have to admit, I just can't resist the plot, it's pulled me in! I'm on episode 3
I have to admit...Haruhi being god...that's weird...And I did wonder a few times if I should be watching a show that says such a ridiculous thing...but, somehow, the creativity of it just seemed to blow me away.
One thing that really does disturb me is the way Haruhi treats Mikuru. It's just plain mean, if not abusive >.< does stuff like that keep going through the whole show?
PostPosted: Wed Jun 22, 2011 9:15 pm
by Radical Dreamer
PostPosted: Wed Jun 22, 2011 9:17 pm
by Lynna
Ah, yes, I noticed that ^_^ I guess I can deal with that...Poor Mikuru!
PostPosted: Wed Jun 22, 2011 10:46 pm
by ADXC
Wow, never thought I'd see another Haruhi thread. XD I mean the last one I was like a few years ago.
Anyway, the anime is good. I need to see the second season though.
PostPosted: Wed Jun 22, 2011 11:04 pm
by Rusty Claymore
I haven't seen the Japanese, but do they use the word kami? Because that just means "diety", or something of intense power. From what I have seen of the show so far, Haruhi is more like [spoiler]Yuki Nagato[/spoiler] and can alter data flow. But I haven't finished yet...
PostPosted: Wed Jun 22, 2011 11:32 pm
by Wallachia
Rusty Claymore (post: 1486559) wrote:Haruhi is more like [spoiler]Yuki Nagato[/spoiler] and can alter data flow.
This.
From what I've gathered, every character has their own belief about Haruhi and whether you want to believe one or the other or none at all is your choice.
Though I personally believe... (Potentially MAJOR spoilers)[spoiler]...that Kyon is the one with the intense, world changing powers, and since he specifically stated he wanted to be a side-character since the beginning then that means Haruhi is a proxy of sorts for himself.[/spoiler]
PostPosted: Thu Jun 23, 2011 3:48 am
by Maokun
Though I personally believe... (Potentially MAJOR spoilers)[spoiler]...that Kyon is the one with the intense, world changing powers, and since he specifically stated he wanted to be a side-character since the beginning then that means Haruhi is a proxy of sorts for himself.[/spoiler]
Wow, that's very similar to my own theory.
Anyhow, yeah, Koizumi is the only one that believes that Haruhi is God. Nagato finds her interesting and potentially dangerous, but ultimately inconsequential and Asahina won't really say what her party believes because it's "confidential."
I was really intrigued by how the end of the second season hinted that this difference of beliefs may generate animosity between the protagonists... Any news on a third season now that a new novel has finally seen the light?
PostPosted: Thu Jun 23, 2011 4:36 am
by Falx
Well judging from the extremely negative reaction due to the creative [spoiler]stupid[/spoiler] spin the second season took... a third season is not as likely as you think.
PostPosted: Thu Jun 23, 2011 5:14 am
by Atria35
I personally only found it 'meh'. It was interesting, and had some good scenes, but Haruhi's obnoxious personality and the utter helplessness Mikuru displayed really turned me off the series.
PostPosted: Thu Jun 23, 2011 6:13 am
by LadyRushia
I quite love this series and have even kept up with the light novels. I just haven't seen the Disappearance film yet. Anyway, like everyone else said, the whole god thing is just Koizumi's point of view and the Mikuru abuse lessens as time goes on. Not much about this series bothers me because I just see it as a parody of so many anime/fantasy/sci-fi tropes (which it is) so I can't take it too seriously even though there's a very intriguing serious plot behind it all. The only problem with that, however, is that said plot doesn't get much development after the first season/book. In terms of the books, Disappearance seems to be a game-changer, but I'm only three pages into Rage so we'll see how that goes.
PostPosted: Thu Jun 23, 2011 6:23 am
by TWWK
I'm in that rapidly-becoming-uncool group of people that still considers this series to be absolute genius. I even (kinda) enjoyed Endless Eight.
The Disappearance film is amazing - it was originally announced to be released in Spring, but Bandai recently announced that it's getting a release later this year (unless there's a better update?).
PostPosted: Thu Jun 23, 2011 7:18 am
by Falx
Yeah the Disappearance movie isn't just a good anime movie, it's a brilliant movie period. Some of the best acting I've ever heard and it looks utterly amazing.
PostPosted: Thu Jun 23, 2011 8:16 am
by blkmage
I think a third season is very likely, considering the second season still sold pretty well and the movie did amazingly well. Also, there are no more stories like Endless Eight to pull shenanigans with anymore.
Haruhi's story is interesting in that it's a pretty equal mix of various short stories and serious business plot. While it's the first season of the anime that captured my attention, I think it's a lot of the later volumes of the light novels that have kept me around. I like the short stories in the later volumes and I think the storyline that opens up with Disappearance is excellent.
PostPosted: Thu Jun 23, 2011 7:33 pm
by Esoteric
Wallachia wrote:
[spoiler]
...that Kyon is the one with the intense, world changing powers, and since he specifically stated he wanted to be a side-character since the beginning then that means Haruhi is a proxy of sorts for himself.[/spoiler]
That's what I think too. Not sure if we'll ever find out but it would be the perfect twist.
PostPosted: Fri Jun 24, 2011 8:55 am
by Lynna
By the way, what's Koizumi? I think they said something like "an Esperg" what's that? At first I thought they were saying "aspergers" as in "Aspergers Syndrome" but I thought "there's no way that's what they're saying XD
PostPosted: Fri Jun 24, 2011 8:59 am
by TWWK
Lynna (post: 1486868) wrote:By the way, what's Koizumi? I think they said something like "an Esperg" what's that? At first I thought they were saying "aspergers" as in "Aspergers Syndrome" but I thought "there's no way that's what they're saying XD
Hehe, not quite. Koizumi is an
esper, an individual with paranormal abilities (which he uses in closed spaces).
PostPosted: Fri Jun 24, 2011 5:33 pm
by Rusty Claymore
So how would things go if Koizumi was claughstraphobic? XP
Anywas, Haruhi has at least one real-life applicable thought: Next time you babysit, you can be thankful that your charge isn't capable of 'auto-evolution'! XD
PostPosted: Fri Jun 24, 2011 5:40 pm
by Sapphire225
Rusty Claymore (post: 1487002) wrote:So how would things go if Koizumi was claughstraphobic? XP
Well, its still kinda wide-open closed space...sorta.
In any case, I loved Haruhi Suzumiya, even the Endless Eight despite nearly making my head explode, which was the intention of the creator I'm guessing. In any case, Dissappearance was perhaps one of the best movies off an anime series I've seen. Definately check it out whenyou are done with the seasons.
PostPosted: Fri Jun 24, 2011 10:24 pm
by Maokun
I personally didn't dislike Endless Eight too much and I was greatly amused by the trolling effect it had on the fans. I just wish every episode had a bit more of payoff at the end, showing an increasing determination on Kyon to stop the loop, instead being a defeatist all but the last time.
PostPosted: Fri Jun 24, 2011 11:25 pm
by UniqueAngelStar
I LOVE Haruhi! It's one of my favorite animes! I really like the characters because they have unique personalities and traits(Although I disagree that they portray Haruhi as a "god"). It's pretty interesting and funny. I got introduced to this since some years ago because of Lucky Star and the Hare Hare Yukai dance trend.
The first season was really good, but the second one was a disappointment for me. I just dropped it when the repeated the same scene the second time until it changed to the next different episode.
But the spin off series, Haruhi chan and Nyron is really cute! At least is more better and watchable than the second season.
I didn't see the movie, Disappearance of Haruhi, but I want to see it soon as I can.
Overall, I love this anime, it's one of my top favorite series.
PostPosted: Fri Jun 24, 2011 11:43 pm
by crazypackersfan
I hope they animate the one short story which has something to do with American football. I'd love for a third season. I have so much Haruhi merchandise, I'm addicted to buying Haruhi stuff at conventions.
PostPosted: Sat Jun 25, 2011 12:08 am
by Tsukuyomi
I loved Harushi <3 It's also one of my favorites <333 All the characters have their own charms ^^
@Wallachia: Ah-hah! I'm not the only one who thinks something like that :O Maybe, not that exactly, but close enough xD
PostPosted: Sat Jun 25, 2011 6:34 am
by Sheol777
Haruhi to me is like a deconstruction of moé. It is pretty well written....that is when the creators are not trolling the fans.
Disappearance of Haruhi was amazing. I am sorry I waited so long to watch it. However you should never watch it before seeing the complete series to this point.
PostPosted: Mon Jun 27, 2011 1:53 pm
by Wolf-man
This was a fun show! If anyone who likes the show hasn't seen the movie then you need to watch it. The movie was amazing and did a great job of capturing the heart of the series as well as expanding on things that the series didn't.