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For the longest time I had forgotten about this sucker, but today the stupid thing popped into my mind. So instead of running around like a worried person with no facts, I thought I would come here and get my answer.

Are the relationships in Tenchi Muyo really incest, or are they all spread out enough they're not? Because while in some cases there seems to have been enough breeding (Tenchi and Ayeka and/or Sasami), there are also cases where it seems still pretty wrong (Tenchi's father and mother). So anyone really sure about this? And incase you need help on the subject...

http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/feature.php?id=222

Like I said, with the romance between Ayeka and Tenchi, things seem pretty well spaced out. Not only was there a half-relationship to begin with, but already three generations had passed since then. Still though, I'm not exactly sure what God labeled as incest so I thought I should check it out. Especially since the closeness between Tenchi's parents is even more freaky.

Yes, there is incest in Tenchi Muyo.

[SPOILER]Ayeka is Yosho's sister. Since Yosho is Tenchi's grandfather, this makes Ayeka Tenchi's great aunt. Further, in the episode where Tenchi and Ayeka are inside the veggie storage barn during the rain, Ayeka explains how she was to marry her brother. She follows with the line that on Earth, people might find this strange. They do it to keep the Juraian bloodline completely pure, and we can also assume Juraians do not have the same problems with birth defects that humans do.[/SPOILER]

Well actually they're half siblings, so I guess she'd be his half great aunt? *confused*

[SPOILER]Either way I forgot about the "pure" bloodline. x-x;[/SPOILER]

Momo-P wrote:Well actually they're half siblings, so I guess she'd be his half great aunt? *confused*

[SPOILER]Either way I forgot about the "pure" bloodline. x-x]

If you think that is cofusing.

I look at that family tree thing last year and did a little studying it and got this.

[spoiler]Katsuhiro Masaki aka Grandpa
- son of Azusa
- son of Funaho
- stepson of Misaki
- father-in-law of Noboyuki Masaki
- grandfather of Tenchi Masaki
- half-brother of Ayeka Jurai
- half-brother of Sasami Jurai/Tsunami

Washu Hakubi
- mother of Ryoko
- mother of Ryo-Ohki
- sister of Tsunami
- sister of Tokimi

Simple, right?

Now, here's where we take this basic list and have fun with it, because when you see the relationships formed by these, it gets a little interesting.

As Ayeka and Sasami are Tenchi's grandfather's half sisters, that makes them his great aunts.

Now, as Sasami is the mortal form of the Goddess Tsunami, this makes her the sister of Washu. Sasami, ergo, is Ryoko's aunt, as is Ayeka.

And if Ayeka is Tenchi's aunt, And Ayeka is Ryoko's aunt.........

Tenchi and Ryoko are in fact cousins.[/spoiler]


Wingzero22

That poor kid. All those hot women crowding around him and he's related to every single one of them except Mihoshi. XD

I forgot some of that in the family tree list info that I did could be spoilers.


Wingzero22

[spoiler]Why would Ryoko be his cousin though? Sasami wasn't born Tsunami, Tsunami just fused with her so she would live. Get rid of the fusing and suddenly the cousin aspect disappears.[/spoiler]

Momo-P wrote:[spoiler]Why would Ryoko be his cousin though? Sasami wasn't born Tsunami, Tsunami just fused with her so she would live. Get rid of the fusing and suddenly the cousin aspect disappears.[/spoiler]

[spoiler] As for the OVA, Tsunami is the older self of Sasami. Alot of the reason why they would be cousins is has to deal in the OVA 3. You learn alot more about Tsunami, Tokimi and Washu Hakubi and all three are in fact, sisters.[/spoiler]


Wingzero22

It's just a mess. Just watch it and don't read too much into it.

It really depends though on what version you watch.For example in one version
Washu is the CREATOR of Ryoko,and in another they apparently have no direct
relationship.
As far as the whole convoluted Jurai Royal Family Tree,don't forget that one of
Tenchi's ancestors was also named Kazuki Yotsga!
Though officially NOT related to the Kazuki of Dual,nevertheless it has been stated that it could possibly be that the TENCHI Kazuki was another PARALLEL COUNTERPART of the DUAL Kazuki.
Also it is said that there are counterparts of Mitsuki and Dr.Sanada in GXP.
Plus a version of Kiyone is seen in episode 14 of Dual,the woman carrying the bags of groceries at the end of the episode.And other Tenchi characters have said to also appear in cameos throughout DUAL.
Ok,that was a bit off the subject,but just a reminder of how DUAL is related to
TENCHI(they share the same creators).
Now as far as incest,anyone who knows a thing about Egyptian history is well familiar with the fact that the Egyptians did the same sort of thing.In fact brother/sister marriages would probably have been common in a lot of ancient
monarchies,to keep the line pure.So what we have or may have in Tenchi isn't that odd at all.

I have a hard enough time trying to keep track on which "Tenchi" is which! But from the version I watched (Tenchi Universe), I'm not seeing any incest. Confusion, yes. Incest, no.

Now "Tenchi Muyo GXP"...that may be another story all together! ANYTHING goes on "GXP", as anyone can vouch.

KhakiBlueSocks wrote:But from the version I watched (Tenchi Universe), I'm not seeing any incest. Confusion, yes. Incest, no

That's because that is one of the series has nothing to do with the OVA's. The OVA's storyline are the only ones that have that in it.

KhakiBlueSocks wrote:I have a hard enough time trying to keep track on which "Tenchi" is which!

This will help.

Tenchi canon

See my posts on the first page. It will help understand Tenchi.


Wingzero22

Actually depending on what series you watch Kiyone is or is not Tenchi's mother.
The entire thing is rather complicated since different versions of the series have
different explanations of the characters.
For example in some versions Ryoko was created by Washu,in other versions she wasn't.In some versions she was a demon,in other versions she was simply a
space pirate.
Though in every version Mihoshi is still a ditz.A version with a superintelligent non-ditzy Mihoshi is too weird to grasp!

Uh, that is somewhat of a spoiler there, since we didn't know about that untill the 3rd OVA about his mother.


Wingzero22

mitsuki lover wrote:Actually depending on what series you watch Kiyone is or is not Tenchi's mother.
The entire thing is rather complicated since different versions of the series have
different explanations of the characters.
For example in some versions Ryoko was created by Washu,in other versions she wasn't.In some versions she was a demon,in other versions she was simply a
space pirate.
Though in every version Mihoshi is still a ditz.A version with a superintelligent non-ditzy Mihoshi is too weird to grasp!

Yep, that seems to be the only constant. That and almost every girl in the series has to be in love with Tenchi. And like I said, Tenchi isn't really something you should think about too deeply. It's too much of a mess.

rocklobster wrote:That and almost every girl in the series has to be in love with Tenchi.

Which Kiyone would be the only one that wasn't in love with him as in the TV series.





Wingzero22

I keep remembering this song called "I'm my own grandpa"...

I think in Tenchi universe Tenci's grandfather got stuck on earth by himself and couldnt leave because noone with a ship came by. i assume that makes Tenchi's grandmother human, and his mother half human. That makes Tench 3/4s a different speices than his great aunts.

mitsuki lover wrote:It really depends though on what version you watch.For example in one version
Washu is the CREATOR of Ryoko,and in another they apparently have no direct
relationship.
As far as the whole convoluted Jurai Royal Family Tree,don't forget that one of
Tenchi's ancestors was also named Kazuki Yotsga!
Though officially NOT related to the Kazuki of Dual,nevertheless it has been stated that it could possibly be that the TENCHI Kazuki was another PARALLEL COUNTERPART of the DUAL Kazuki.
Also it is said that there are counterparts of Mitsuki and Dr.Sanada in GXP.
Plus a version of Kiyone is seen in episode 14 of Dual,the woman carrying the bags of groceries at the end of the episode.And other Tenchi characters have said to also appear in cameos throughout DUAL.
Ok,that was a bit off the subject,but just a reminder of how DUAL is related to
TENCHI(they share the same creators).
Now as far as incest,anyone who knows a thing about Egyptian history is well familiar with the fact that the Egyptians did the same sort of thing.In fact brother/sister marriages would probably have been common in a lot of ancient
monarchies,to keep the line pure.So what we have or may have in Tenchi isn't that odd at all.

That is awsome as heck I mean both of these shows are listed on my top 10 favorite animes of all time and now i find out more awsomeness
I will now pull dual out again and watch it so I can see all the camios thanks alot for telling me about it.
Oh and Tenchi Muyo the OAV as i consider is the true tenchi although thinking as this whole dual thing maybe it is just a bunch of parrelle universes stringing all of his storys together so on that topic a collaboration move or show were tenchis from all the demensions get together to fight one supper bad guy would sound flippin awsome as well. HEHEHE