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Ghost in the Shell 101

PostPosted: Mon May 29, 2006 2:10 pm
by Tommy
I've only been following SAC 2ng Gig and I find the plot extremely complicated for a small 15-year-old to understand but I've managed to gain an understanding.

Just curious but is Stand alone Complex the only division or is there older stuff before that?

Is 1st Gig better than 2nd? What epsidoe are they on now on AS?

PostPosted: Mon May 29, 2006 4:04 pm
by RedMage
They just concluded 2nd Gig on Adult Swim, I believe.

Besides that, there's also the original SAC ("1st gig") and the two movies. The movies and SAC probably take place in different timelines/story settings, though, I.E. SAC doesn't fit neatly into the movies timeline or vice versa. There's also manga.

PostPosted: Mon May 29, 2006 5:13 pm
by GhostontheNet
Tom Dincht wrote:I've only been following SAC 2ng Gig and I find the plot extremely complicated for a small 15-year-old to understand but I've managed to gain an understanding.

Just curious but is Stand alone Complex the only division or is there older stuff before that?

Is 1st Gig better than 2nd? What epsidoe are they on now on AS?
In my opinion, the second gig has been better than the first gig based on the 12 episodes I've seen, although the first gig is also very good and I have the whole set. Interestingly, every media form Ghost in the Shell has been put into takes a much different perspective on the plot, with Stand Alone Complex's world being a parallel universe where the Major never meets the Puppet Master who plays a crucial role in the progression of the movies and the manga.

PostPosted: Mon May 29, 2006 5:38 pm
by Tommy
I only missed last week's episode and it ENDED?!!!!

PostPosted: Mon May 29, 2006 8:48 pm
by Sami_jane
lol ya last week was the last episode. it was quite good too :p

anyways i only seen a little bit of the first gig but comparing it to teh 2nd i thought that the second was much more interesting. what w/ the whole refugee thing going on i thought it was being realistic in an unrealistic (anytime soon taht is) world. i suppose the first was like taht too but i just liked this one better

PostPosted: Tue May 30, 2006 6:35 am
by Sephiroth
i thought both 1st & 2nd gig were very good tho i think i like 2nd gig a bit better. cant wait until i get to see 3rd gig Solid state society.

PostPosted: Tue May 30, 2006 6:50 am
by rocklobster
[spoiler]I was quite surprised that Motoko ended up helping Kuze at the end of the 2nd Gig.[/spoiler]

PostPosted: Tue May 30, 2006 6:58 am
by Sammy Boy
Tom Dincht wrote:I've only been following SAC 2ng Gig and I find the plot extremely complicated for a small 15-year-old to understand but I've managed to gain an understanding.


Mate, you are doing better than me.

I am quite a bit older than you, but my brains are just so mentally worn out after work and study everyday, I can only think about toys and other intellectually-shallow stuff.

PostPosted: Tue May 30, 2006 7:01 am
by Roy Mustang
Sephiroth wrote:i thought both 1st & 2nd gig were very good tho i think i like 2nd gig a bit better. cant wait until i get to see 3rd gig Solid state society.


Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex - Solid State Society will be a movie and not tv series. The movie plot start two years after the refugee riot incident. A significantly larger Section 9, with over 20 new officers, investigates terrorist actions related to a hacker “Kugutsu Mawashi.


The movie running time looks to be 100-minute and it will have same production team, including main staff, will be carried over from the TV series.


Wingzero22

PostPosted: Tue May 30, 2006 1:56 pm
by uc pseudonym
Please use spoiler tags, rocklobster. I've seen a good portion of this but not the ending, so that was new to me. However, I've been predicting that for a while, so it isn't too much of a problem.

PostPosted: Wed May 31, 2006 12:21 pm
by Tommy
One thing I would've thought to be a nice twist is if Kuze was really that boy that made the cranes in the stange episode that was entirely a flashback as we could clearly see the "Chief" was the little girl.

[SPOILER]In one of the later episodes, when Kuze was first found, the "Chief" discovers a paper crane that appears to be made by Kuze. [/SPOILER]

PostPosted: Wed May 31, 2006 12:27 pm
by uc pseudonym
Well...
[spoiler]Unless I'm much mistaken, Kuze is that boy. At least, I've been assuming that since I saw that episode, anyway. It essentially confirms it when the paper crane is seen in a later episode. Is it possible that Major Kusanagi is the one who made that crane? If I recall, it wasn't specific, but it has been quite some time. However, it would make more sense in the context of the previous episode, given that her previous prosthetic body was unable to do origami properly.[/spoiler]

PostPosted: Wed May 31, 2006 10:33 pm
by GhostontheNet
[Spoiler] It seems to me that obliquely, this episode's purpose was to talk about the Major's past through the story of the other boy, with the girl's troubles at folding the origami crane matching the Major's story of crushing and doll in her childhood in the first gig's 3rd episode and 3D intro. [/Spoiler]

PostPosted: Thu Jun 01, 2006 5:49 pm
by Evangelion
[spoiler]Yes, Kuze was the boy, that was made obvious. But I liked the first GiG, as it were, much better. I just couldn't get interested in this one. Even the ending was anti-climactic and diffusing, what with Kuze being killed and Motoko acting like it was just another day. Strange for someone who had found her first love serendipitously after going through so much.[/spoiler]

PostPosted: Thu Jun 01, 2006 7:42 pm
by Joshua Christopher
Ghost in the Shell is pretty simple to me.

-Really pretty animation
-Literary references
-Technobabble
-Boring people talking

Though I admit I enjoyed 2nd Gig much more than the first season, I'm still not really a fan of the show.