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Fish Eye and a few other concerns (Sailor Moon related)

PostPosted: Sun Jul 31, 2005 12:24 am
by Momo-P
Ok...now can someone explain, what is this thing's gender? o_o; Everyone says male, but so many things seem to point to female. Not to mention there's even a shower scene where his/her breasts are covered. So...can anyone explain this?

Also, two more...

Haruka and Michiru are suppose to be lovers in the original, but obviously being a Christian I don't approve of it. In fact, I really disliked the S series and only own dub copies of these episodes...episodes where they pass them off as cousins anyway. So do you think I should be fine then? I don't approve of it, and don't even own the versions where they really get into that stuff, so...I think I'm even being a little more clean.

Then finally, is the relationship between Helios and Chibiusa ok? I mean...the guy starts off as a horse...but he can turn into a human. I assume it's fine, but it's not like Fruits Basket where they are suppose to be humans in the first place...or is it? I haven't really watched the final episodes lately so I can't really remember or recall if the human was his true form or not.

So can someone help me here? And yes, you will most likely be seeing a lot of weird questions like this around. *lol*

PostPosted: Sun Jul 31, 2005 11:36 am
by Nate
Let's see...

In the dub, they put Fish Eye as a female, for obvious reasons. But I can say with 100% certainty that he is a dude in the original.

In the episode with the guy that draws fairies, Fish Eye picks him as a target and starts applying makeup. Tiger Eye and Hawk Eye seem confused, and Tiger Eye says, "Um, he's a guy like us, right?" to which Hawk Eye nods.

Also, in the episode where Fish Eye tries to seduce Mamoru, near the end he rips off his shirt (or was it towel? I can't remember) to reveal his lack of breasts and the fact that he is indeed a guy (to which Mamoru doesn't react very favorably).

Actually, I thought the dub version made things worse. Because by making them cousins, they made it so that Haruka and Michiru appeared incestuous as well. Actually, it really isn't that clear in S...many people asked Naoko at a press conference if Haruka and Michiru really were lovers or just good friends. It wasn't until Stars that their relationship was made fully apparent.

Okay, been a long time since I read/saw SuperS, since I dislike it...but Helios isn't really a horse. He's a man. He's the ruler of the realm Elysion. He is the Guardian of the Golden Crystal and protector of dreams. However, Queen Nehelenia, in an effort to thwart the White Moon and the Silver Millennium, tried to get the crystal. When Helios refused, Nehelenia took him captive.

But one night, many years later as he hung there bound and helpless, a dream light shone on him. It was the light of an incredibly beautiful dream. Empowered by the light, Helios' spirit was able to escape his prison. Taking the form of Pegasus, he flew away to meet the keeper of that light: Rini.

Pegasus is Helios' freed spirit, nothing more. His true body (human) remains in Nehelenia's clutches.

PostPosted: Sun Jul 31, 2005 12:48 pm
by Rogie
Well done, kae! :thumb: I couldn't have explained it better myself.

And yeah, Haruka and Michiru's relationship is pretty much uncontested by the end of the Stars season.