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Should Samurai Champloo be added to "Do Not Discuss"
PostPosted: Sun Jul 03, 2005 1:13 pm
by rocklobster
I just think since it has quite a lot of sexual material in it, Samurai Champloo might need to be on the Do Not Discuss list. Am I making too much out of this?
PostPosted: Sun Jul 03, 2005 1:17 pm
by Joshua Christopher
rocklobster wrote:I just think since it has quite a lot of sexual material in it, Samurai Champloo might need to be on the Do Not Discuss list. Am I making too much out of this?
Eh, has anyone started a big debate over it? Not really.
Don't forget, sin is sin regardles of it being killing, or sex, or whatever, so if we added every anime that had something we didn't like, we wouldn't have any anime to talk about.
PostPosted: Sun Jul 03, 2005 1:18 pm
by inkhana
The contents of the DnD list generally stem from two things - whether or not the entry is hentai or yaoi (which goes without question) and whether or not we've had troubles with it in the past (ie, NGE). There are many, many anime with sexual content that aren't on the DnD, and adding all the ones with a few problems (as opposed to the ones with which we, in our experience, have had vast problems) would take days...^^;; So no, until "every Samurai Champloo thread becomes a fight" it won't be added.
PostPosted: Sun Jul 03, 2005 1:18 pm
by Radical Dreamer
Feh, I don't know. I don't really like the show, which is why I don't watch it so often (I enjoy seeing more historical accuracy in that time period, and the show is certainly lacking there. I'm also not a fan of hip-hop...XP). Anyways, I do know that there was a big homosexual theme in the show a couple of weeks ago...EW. I don't really mind if people talk about it here...I just think it's a stupid show...*shrugs*
PostPosted: Sun Jul 03, 2005 1:49 pm
by Hitokiri
I agree with Gypsy.
PostPosted: Sun Jul 03, 2005 2:27 pm
by mitsuki lover
Personally I enjoy it because Kari Wahlgren's one of my favorite VAs and
Fuu is so funny to watch!
It's one of those shows that you need to have a certain taste for really.
To be honest though I thought the pilot was a bit confusing.
As far as sex goes,since it's only in the early eps. on AS I can't say that there was much to worry about so far outside of cleavage issues.
PostPosted: Sun Jul 03, 2005 4:06 pm
by Yojimbo
Rurouni_Kaoru wrote:Feh, I don't know. I don't really like the show, which is why I don't watch it so often (I enjoy seeing more historical accuracy in that time period, and the show is certainly lacking there. I'm also not a fan of hip-hop...XP). Anyways, I do know that there was a big homosexual theme in the show a couple of weeks ago...EW. I don't really mind if people talk about it here...I just think it's a stupid show...*shrugs*
And you still like Samurai X even though they've taken some major hisorical liberties there?:P
It wasn't really promoting homosexuality. He was just looking for acceptance. And the sexual content so far mainly contains the usual brothel, prostitute, pervert guy stuff.
PostPosted: Sun Jul 03, 2005 4:47 pm
by ashfire
I was watching last nights episode and this guy is running around looking for a ex student of the school he went to who killed the teacher.
So he has a buddy running around with him that he says to give him a down beat and the guy starts mouthing thumping the end of his sword like its a microphone so this guy can do a rap song.
CAN SOMEONE TELL ME WHAT YEAR IN JAPAN THIS IS SUPPOST TO BE.
Its Strange if you ask me.
PostPosted: Sun Jul 03, 2005 4:50 pm
by Yojimbo
ashfire wrote:I was watching last nights episode and this guy is running around looking for a ex student of the school he went to who killed the teacher.
So he has a buddy running around with him that he says to give him a down beat and the guy starts mouthing thumping the end of his sword like its a microphone so this guy can do a rap song.
CAN SOMEONE TELL ME WHAT YEAR IN JAPAN THIS IS SUPPOST TO BE.
Its Strange if you ask me.
The Edo period 17-18th century. It's supposed to be wierd sheesh.
Same thing with Bebop in a way with jazz in the future now with Champloo hip-hop in the past.
PostPosted: Sun Jul 03, 2005 5:42 pm
by Joshua Christopher
They've tried to make sure that you know it's not supposed to be historically accurate. I mean, people were wearing glasses and such. It's just a funky hip-hop spin on Samurai anime.
PostPosted: Sun Jul 03, 2005 8:03 pm
by Yojimbo
Impact Alberto wrote:They've tried to make sure that you know it's not supposed to be historically accurate. I mean, people were wearing glasses and such. It's just a funky hip-hop spin on Samurai anime.
Exactly Eric Shermon the ADR Director said himself said that the series has alot of history in it but it's totally irrelevant.
PostPosted: Sun Jul 03, 2005 8:06 pm
by Lyren
I haven't really seen anything that bothersome in Samurai Champloo. I enjoy it for its comedy and action, if nothing else. It's a lot like Cowboy Bebop with far inferior plot and characters.
PostPosted: Sun Jul 03, 2005 8:31 pm
by Lochaber Axe
Lyren wrote:I haven't really seen anything that bothersome in Samurai Champloo. I enjoy it for its comedy and action, if nothing else. It's a lot like Cowboy Bebop with far inferior plot and characters.
Uh, this is really meant as a reply to everyone who's talked about Cowboy Bebop... did you all know that Watanabe was the same guy who did Bebop?
Inaccuracies and such are his style in directing.
(Besides, Jin wouldn't be Jin without those glasses. They make the man so to speak.)
PostPosted: Sun Jul 03, 2005 8:37 pm
by Hitokiri
Impact Alberto wrote:It's just a funky hip-hop spin on Samurai anime.
And it works for that style.
PostPosted: Mon Jul 04, 2005 8:57 am
by ChristianKitsune
I actually kinda like this show..the sword fights are pretty swifty (sweet+nifty=Swifty) if you ask me..
and Jin is my favorite character...his glasses make him look..oh..so cool!
PostPosted: Mon Jul 04, 2005 9:22 am
by Hitokiri
I don't have a favorite character...i kinda don't like them but I like them. If any it would be Fuu.
PostPosted: Tue Jul 05, 2005 8:46 am
by rocklobster
ashfire wrote:I was watching last nights episode and this guy is running around looking for a ex student of the school he went to who killed the teacher.
So he has a buddy running around with him that he says to give him a down beat and the guy starts mouthing thumping the end of his sword like its a microphone so this guy can do a rap song.
CAN SOMEONE TELL ME WHAT YEAR IN JAPAN THIS IS SUPPOST TO BE.
Its Strange if you ask me.
The only problem I had with that ep is if the guy's gonna rap, why won't he rhyme? Anyhoo, right there in ep 1 they had a big caption reading "This work of fiction is not an accurate portrayal. Like you care, just shut up and enjoy the show." Pretty much sums it up.
PostPosted: Tue Jul 05, 2005 10:48 am
by Myoti
For the small bits I saw, I liked the show. I didn't generally give a swifty (CR) rip about anything be historically accurate. I just want to be entertained.
I liek that guy (don't know his name) who's with Jin and always goes crashing through everything and jumping on people's faces. It's good to see someone who just cares about getting the job done and not looking all that fancy.
PostPosted: Tue Jul 05, 2005 11:01 am
by Mangafanatic
We don't have a "these titles are from Hell list." As others said the DNDL list is to avoided heated debate or discussion of anime that are purely pornography.
PostPosted: Tue Jul 05, 2005 2:21 pm
by Yojimbo
Mangafanatic wrote:We don't have a "these titles are from Hell list." As others said the DNDL list is to avoided heated debate or discussion of anime that are purely pornography.
Or just spark so much controvery like Evangelion.
Besides I would think a true historical samurai anime would be boring as heck. Comeon guys it's anime it's supposed to be "out there" if you want a documentry go watch...well a documentry.
PostPosted: Tue Jul 05, 2005 3:18 pm
by Hitokiri
I love the ending theme song "Shiki no Uta" by Minmi. That's such a beautiful song...even if it's a bit R/Bish.
PostPosted: Tue Jul 05, 2005 3:47 pm
by Sesshoumaru
I LOVE Samurai Champloo, Mugen is easily my favorite character.
PostPosted: Tue Jul 05, 2005 6:01 pm
by Yojimbo
Hitokiri wrote:I love the ending theme song "Shiki no Uta" by Minmi. That's such a beautiful song...even if it's a bit R/Bish.
You should broaden your tastes old school R&B has some of the greatest artists ever under the genre. Hendrix, Stevie Wonder, BB King, James Brown, Marvin Gaye, Eric Clapton, just to name a few. And some of the most beautiful songs ever created.
PostPosted: Tue Jul 05, 2005 6:10 pm
by Hitokiri
Maybe I should of clarified...I'm not abig fan of modern R and B.
I like the artists you named (not my personal favs but I like them).
PostPosted: Tue Jul 05, 2005 7:26 pm
by Yojimbo
Hitokiri wrote:Maybe I should of clarified...I'm not abig fan of modern R and B.
I like the artists you named (not my personal favs but I like them).
Ok well I agree with ya there. Modern R&B isn't really that great it's really slumped. Still some ok stuff out there like Seal and Toni Braxton but ehh.
PostPosted: Wed Jul 06, 2005 10:36 am
by agasfas
I don't think it should be added to the list. I mean, the fighting in itself isn't worse then Kenshin in terms of violence and for the sexual content... Well perhaps there may be some, but I don't think it's an extreme. I kind of felt Love Hina had more suggestive situations and fanservice then Champloo has had so far.
PostPosted: Wed Jul 06, 2005 1:26 pm
by Hitokiri
agasfas wrote:I don't think it should be added to the list. I mean, the fighting in itself isn't worse then Kenshin in terms of violence and for the sexual content... Well perhaps there may be some, but I don't think it's an extreme. I kind of felt Love Hina had more suggestive situations and fanservice then Champloo has had so far.
Yeah...Love Hina Again has much more then Samurai Champloo and Ghost in the Shell has nudity....but they aren't on the list whereas Evangleion does have fan service but no nudity (well..save for EoE) but it's on the list. That's because it causes debates. That's the bottom line folks.
PostPosted: Wed Jul 06, 2005 2:33 pm
by Knives
rocklobster wrote:I just think since it has quite a lot of sexual material in it, Samurai Champloo might need to be on the Do Not Discuss list. Am I making too much out of this?
na. Theres a whole lot of worse animes that arent on that list.
PostPosted: Wed Jul 06, 2005 7:51 pm
by Mithrandir
We've stated many times that we will NOT add a title to the list if we think it's too nasty, unless it's a REALLY well known piece. Think of it as security through obscurity.
PostPosted: Fri Jul 08, 2005 5:52 pm
by mitsuki lover
Did you notice how in last week's ep.when they're at the pawn shop and the owner rejects Fuu and Mugen that they both automatically eye Jin's swords?
The poor guy tries so hard to be the straight man but he's caught playing
second fiddle to two of the craziest loonies in a serious anime series!