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Metropolis
PostPosted: Mon Jan 24, 2005 2:47 pm
by Gypsy
Zane wrote up this excellent review for us.
(I'll fix the pics in a bit, Zane. The multiple ones are fine.)
http://christiananime.net/reviews.php?display=131
Sweet.
PostPosted: Tue Jan 25, 2005 1:28 am
by Zane
I hope you guys like it...
I think I got in all the details and the general vibe. And does anyone know of any other religious innudenos or other stuff which I didn't pick up?
Thanks Gypsy.
PostPosted: Tue Jan 25, 2005 6:21 am
by Kisa
Nice review! I personally didn't like the anime... not my style... but good job!
PostPosted: Tue Jan 25, 2005 5:41 pm
by Warrior 4 Jesus
Excellent review Zane! Well done! I really enjoyed this movie, but it took awhile to get used to the Astro Boy like characters for such a deep movie. Could you edit the review to include that there is one instance of the word: b@#$tard, spoken by the detective? Other than that the review covers everything correctly.
PostPosted: Tue Jan 25, 2005 5:45 pm
by AngelSakura
I saw this a while ago, but I seem to remember a drunk ranting about something or other off-screen and using "sh*t"; I don't remember whether it was sub or dub.
PostPosted: Wed Jan 26, 2005 9:59 am
by Rogie
Good review, buddy!
And (as you already know), I totally agree with those religious references. Man, I love this movie!
PostPosted: Wed Jan 26, 2005 2:31 pm
by Gypsy
Language level changed to 2 and corrections made in Language text field.
PostPosted: Mon Jan 31, 2005 10:07 am
by GhostontheNet
I guess I'm a dissenting voice on some of the religious material. First of all, I think the dove/angel incident wasn't so much to reflect the events of Christ's baptism (although that is possible) as to emphasize the film's themes. First of all, if you watch carefully, you'll find the doves are the film's symbols for innocence, and perhaps peace. I cannot defend this assertion, one must instead look for it themselves throughout the film. Also, angels are well known symbols for innocence. The combination of the two highlights Tima's innocence, and the theme of innocence is emphasized often on the official materials outside of the film itself, making my proposal tenable. Also, the whole God/gods thing seems to me to be a result of internal struggles on whether the singular or plural kami was originally intended, for Japanese does not emphasize the question of "how many" in its language nearly so much as English does. Also, I strongly doubt Tima as the robot's Messiah in the climax was an intended theme. It seems stronger to me that it represents innocence lost, only to be regained.
PostPosted: Mon Jan 31, 2005 11:33 am
by Gypsy
I've yet to see this anime, so I have no comments to offer.
I would, however, like to extend a thank you to GhostontheNet for his respectful attitude in his comments about religion. He allowed the reviewer his take while presenting his own in a neutral manner, allowing the potential watcher of Metropolis to decide for themselves. This is how comments on official reviews should be, and I appreciate it.
PostPosted: Mon Jan 31, 2005 12:24 pm
by oro!
I never did get that movie, or is it that it's been a while? Anyway, the review seems accrurate.
PostPosted: Mon Jan 31, 2005 1:39 pm
by Arnobius
My own experience with this one was a sense of dislike. Based on an *old* Osamu Tezuka story, these modern directors seemed like they just had to put their own mark on it. I didn't like the ultra modern computer generated background combined with the old style chara design. I would have preferred that they had kept it all in Tezuka style.
That's all my own opinion of course.
But not a very good adaption. I mean, Geez: Superman didn't even show up once in this movie
<ducks>
PostPosted: Mon Jan 31, 2005 10:33 pm
by Zane
Hmm, thats pretty thoughtful Ghost. You are probably more in tune with what the Directors thoughts were, and you're right the climax was not protraying Tima as a Messiah, it could be seen that way though, as I originally did. What I wonder though is why the radio, right at the end of the film, quotes Timas; "Who am I?" when she never recorded anything into it, only played it.
And although its all hyper modern, you do get a whole 1920-30's feel because of the music and clothes etc.
I appriciate your comments as usual Ghost.
PostPosted: Tue Feb 01, 2005 7:03 am
by GhostontheNet
Gypsy wrote:I would, however, like to extend a thank you to GhostontheNet for his respectful attitude in his comments about religion. He allowed the reviewer his take while presenting his own in a neutral manner, allowing the potential watcher of Metropolis to decide for themselves. This is how comments on official reviews should be, and I appreciate it.
You're welcome.
Zane wrote:Hmm, thats pretty thoughtful Ghost. You are probably more in tune with what the Directors thoughts were, and you're right the climax was not protraying Tima as a Messiah, it could be seen that way though, as I originally did.
I thank you for giving my ideas credit.
What I wonder though is why the radio, right at the end of the film, quotes Timas] Oh, didn't you see it? It meant that consistent with the film's themes, she was/had a soul after all.
And although its all hyper modern, you do get a whole 1920-30's feel because of the music and clothes etc.
Yes, that is one reason I consider the film to be such a classic.
I appriciate your comments as usual Ghost.
Thank you.