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Can't Amazon get sued for selling ILLEGAL bootlegs?

You have options. Call Amazon and tell them you want a refund and this is not what you ordered. Cowboy Bebop has been licensed in America. Threaten to tell Bandai (they licensed it i think) that they sold you bootlegs instead of the real thing.

Also, the page says 7 dvds (one says 6 too). More false advertising, no? Just call and complain. I'm positive you can get your money back.

Also, you should have known better =P


Fireproof, you're darn skippy they can.

Can't Amazon get sued for selling ILLEGAL bootlegs?

To anwser your question, no. When signing up you agree to some terms, terms specifying things are sold on individual level. What is sold is not their responsiblity. Same goes w/ ebay and half.com. The person itself could most likely. Because it's not the company "amazon" selling it, but the individual w/ an account. Amazon, ebay etc. just get a percentage of the sell for having it being posted on their site, like 1-5%.

Also, when searching Ebay, if you don't want a bootleg/ "import" check the region. If they don't state the region then most likely it is a knock off. Plus, how much did you spend for it? If you spent less than $35 then that's a big clue too. The cheapest region 1 copy I've seen was $60, and that was for the used copy.

Edit: Also, anything that has "perfect sessions" listed in the description is also huge indicator....

Man, those screenshots look bad. I feel for you Volt, but now I have warning!

Oh boy! *Calls T.H.E.Y. and tells them to sue Amazon* Hey, T.H.E.Y. made the list of the most violent game, wrote the shcool textbooks, polluted the ozone, but they do good things too. Namely, destroying evil! Muahahahaha! Oh, but they create evil too... PARADOX!!11!?2

They frist question that I have is this.

Did you buy the Cowboy Bebop Complete Sessions Collection (Amazon.com Exclusive) or did you buy it from a seller from Amazon?

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Yeah, it's pretty obvious that you got an HK dvd there.

As for Amazon.com, I quit buying from them a long time ago. I ordered a book several years ago that they never sent me. The order is still open to this day. I complained several times, and they finally upgraded my shipping from 3-day to overnight, free of charge. *rolls eyes* I always knew there was something sketchy about the way amazon is run...

You have to watch out on ebay, too, most of the anime on there is from Hong Kong. I would only buy used anime that someone is selling off from their personal collection.

There are people on there selling FANSUBS, too. A number of times I have seen people selling fansubs of licensed series that I have personally worked on and poured my own time into. It really makes me angry that someone else is making money from the fruits of my labor. >:( I guess people will take advantage of you at any chance they get, though.

Volt wrote:Really I dont want a refund, the box set was only like $20 bucks or so.

That says it all. Anytime something is too good to be true, then chances are they are. That's how the cookie crumbles.

They both are legal. The first picture is all the volumes separatly. The other is the box set.

agasfas wrote:To anwser your question, no. When signing up you agree to some terms, terms specifying things are sold on individual level. What is sold is not their responsiblity. Same goes w/ ebay and half.com. The person itself could most likely. Because it's not the company "amazon" selling it, but the individual w/ an account. Amazon, ebay etc. just get a percentage of the sell for having it being posted on their site, like 1-5%.

No, its the fact that Bandai has the license to the series. Amazon could get sued from Bandai, not volt.

You have to watch out on ebay, too, most of the anime on there is from Hong Kong. I would only buy used anime that someone is selling off from their personal collection.

Just make sure its region 1, not 0 and theres no chinese subtitles. that's enough to watch out for.

Actually it's not quite enough to watch out for!

Because I almost forgot to mention sellers charging 18 bucks to ship an HK set.

That's not always something though because sometimes there are distributors within the US that sell HK sets. Then sometimes shipping is like 5-10 dollars. Still high, yes. But not as high as the HK sellers in the HK.

I know, I know. I was actually talking about sellers on ebay though. You have to watch the shipping price no matter what you buy or who you buy it from, on there. I didn't mean to imply that it has any connection with bootlegs.

Ok i went back an

ummm I work at amazon.com and you purchased something incorrectly not paying attention to how you were purchasing it.
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B00007LLIV/qid=1102475002/sr=1-2/ref=sr_1_2/102-4698386-6402568?v=glance&s=dvd

now as you can see they are not currently selling it. BUT you see the price tag there right? But These are Sellers outside of Amazon.com Sorta like ebay.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/offer-listing/B00007LLIV/ref=dp_pb_a//102-4698386-6402568?condition=all

They currently are not selling the complete collection of cowboy bebop like they were. When they DID sell the complete collection it costed 99.99.
It of course is no longer on sale at amazon.com though.

considering you can get dvd's for up to 6-8 cheaper at other sites, I wouldn't buy anime from amazon either.

http://www.bestprices.com is my favorite site to buy anime.

Me niether honestly. IF you wanna buy anime, I suggest you buy it from deepdiscountdvd.com
Honestly I wouldn't purchase a thing from amazon.com, they vary vary vary rarley have the best price.

i just buy anime from stores, heck i dont even buy anime. I download it ^^

No, its the fact that Bandai has the license to the series. Amazon could get sued from Bandai, not volt.

My point was that Amazon wouldn't be sued, the person selling the dvd's may. I believe it's in the user agreement that Amazon will not be held responsible for things sold by private dealers. Although, if Amazon (the company) were selling the dvd's, then yes, Amazon could be sued. Though I'm sure it's just a private seller. And correct, Bandai would be the one to do so.

Well, the way volt said it, I thought it was sold by amazon not a private seller :p

I feel sorry for you guys that have gotten burned on Amazon. I have gotten my fair share of anime from that site, both from sellers (got the first volume of Princess Nine for $7) and straight from Amazon (i.e. Mini-Goddess boxset) and so far I haven't gotten burned. I didn't learn about these other sites until a few weeks ago from just browsing this site. I'll probably be buying from the sites mentioned here, but I wouldn't be surprised if I still buy things from Amazon.

i've never been burned by amazon or ebay. I Make sure that they say CLEARLY region 1. Or Offical US/Canada Release, unless I am indeed shopping for an import.

Well, you should be able to trust Amazon as long as you're purchasing form them directly, but as for buying from resellers, I highly advise against it.

Anyways, I buy most of my anime from http://www.deepdiscountdvd.com

You can get authentic anime there for unblelievable prices. NO BOOTLEGS! I say this having shopped with them for over a year, and I've never gotten burned by them. Also check out http://www.dvdpricesearch.com

Street wrote:I work at amazon.com

Great, maybe you can get me some consolation for the book I ordered in December 2001 that amazon hasn't sent me yet. :]

Oh well... it was a gift certificate anyways... I woudln't normally be shopping at amazon.com, because I never have to look very hard to figure out how expensive amazon is. I just use it for window shopping, and then buy from someplace alot cheaper like alldirect.

I've had only one problem with Amazon.com and that was when they shipped the package to the wrong address. They apologized and overnighted the order to me the next day. I always take free shipping and it always arrives before the projected date. Some things I do:
1) Always buy the new item direct from Amazon.com unless out of print.
2) If buying used, check the rating AND the number of sales (with the case you got, nobody had more than 200 sales. You're looking at eBay level reliability here.
3) Never buy from a Z-shop.

I would file a complaint with Amazon though. Tell them the seller is selling bootleg products. YMMV, but when I complained about a boot version of Azumanga Daioh I saw (didn't even buy) (this was before it came out on DVD), they contacted me the next day saying they were looking at it. Might not hurt to report it to Bandai as well.

Some other things: A new JP dvd is 99% of the time R2 and will run between $40 and $70 for a SINGLE disc (you don't even want to know what a set costs). If the supposed JP dvd has subtitles, try going to cdjapan.co.jp and look up the item. If it's subbed, they'll say so.

A legit R1 DVD costs about $30 new (barring sales) for a single disc.

A lot of boots are R0 and have Chinese subs, but some bootleggers are more clever and make their boots r1 (I have a few. They're copies of legit R2 discs) with no Chinese subs.

It might help, when looking at an item on eBay or from a private seller/Z-shop on Amazon, is to look for the item at another site and see if it really exists for sale in the US.

>.< Oh geesh.. I'm sorry, Volt.. I remember how happy you were last night about getting them... Bah, is there anything that can be done?

Gah this is why I hate bootlegs, they rip unsuspecting people off.

[quote="Street"]ummm I work