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Postby ChristianKitsune » Sun Oct 21, 2007 8:09 pm

KBMaster wrote:I went, I saw, I loved. The English VA's were pretty good. I was particularly impressed by Light's. It's like "I'm calm... I'M MANICAL AND CRAZY.... I'm calm..."



I went, I saw, I was... confused to say the least.


(sorry for getting off topic agaaaaaaaainnnnnnnn)

Blood+ is a bit confusing...but I guess it takes watching like a hawk to understand (watched most of the episodes closely instead of week by week ^^; )

I must say though epi 32 is a scary one. :/ that's the only episode I think drags down the entire series.

BACK on topic! (SORRY! I guess any further discussion about Blood+ should be through pm or a new thread, aye? Since this is about Death Note. ^^; sorry, mods.)

I wonder how this show will do for the Action ratings? Do you guys think it will be more successful than Bleach? Was that show even successful?
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Postby Mr. SmartyPants » Sun Oct 21, 2007 8:12 pm

Lol okay ML, you enjoy your crappy Inuyasha while we go enjoy this very thematic and well done (albeit a tad bit overrated) piece of entertainment. I don't necessarily like the opener either, (As an opener. As a song it's okay with me) but it doesn't detract from the show at all.

Seriously. I finished Death Note in it's entirety, and although it's quite loquacious at times, it's masterfully put together and very intelligent. You say there are plot holes, but I beg to differ. Of all the anime and manga I've come across, this is one of the few titles that does everything possible to avoid plot holes. (Hence why it's intelligent) You also fail to realize that Light is purposefully portrayed as an an egotistical megalomaniac so the plot can actually develop. (Unlike shows like Inuyasha that lack an interesting plot. I got bored of Inuyasha way faster than I got bored of Naruto)

But knowing you, I'm sure something like Inuyasha would be better off for you.
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Postby Sheenar » Sun Oct 21, 2007 8:34 pm

I just watched the first 2 episodes ...I must say it's...um...interesting...

I'll definitely watch some more of it ...it'd be interesting to see how Light's character develops...
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Postby ADXC » Sun Oct 21, 2007 9:00 pm

Radical Dreamer wrote:Light: Yes, he IS the villain. What you probably have yet to realize is that in Death Note, the antagonist is the main character. The protagonist has yet to be introduced. This is a theme not unlike that of Shakespeare's Macbeth, so think twice before you start bashing it so ruthlessly.


Yeah your right about that. The show does mind me of Macbeth(And we just finished reading Macbeth just so you know.). At the start of Macbeth he seemed like the protagonist, but as the story went along he progresively became more evil until the point where he killed people without a good reason. But Light seems to become the antagonist very quickly. I mean you do see him having a humdrum, mundane life to which we can all relate to, but then his whole life changes (well progressively changes.) He says he's doing it(Killing people) just because he want to make the world a better place. I don't know anything past that, but if this mindset changes to worse than that then he would have become like Macbeth(Which is to kill people for no good reason this was of course at the last or close to the last stage of the story when he sends murderers to kill not just Macduff, but also Macduff's family as well just because they were affiliated with him). But I don't know that he does become more evil, so I'll just be quiet for now. Im just giving my two cents.
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Postby KhakiBlueSocks » Mon Oct 22, 2007 12:52 am

mitsuki lover wrote:I thought episode 1 was an overrated mediocre piece of crap for the following reasons:

Music:
Opening Theme:This was rather a bit of unmemorable J-Pop.Not as good as the jazzy opening to Boogiepop Phantom and definitely not as good as
Tokko's opening theme 'Nothing'.

(As compared to the annoying, bubblegum pop of "Change the World"?)

Background Music:Overstated.The fact is it was at one point too loud.
When Light was in his room I half expected to hear O,Fortuna break out!:lol:

(Too loud? Try turning down your TV. My sound was cool.)

Closing Theme:There was one?!

(Yes, there was. And it matched pretty darn well.)

Art:This was probably the best part of the episode.:thumbsup:


Characters:
Light:Drama Queen who has the infernal habit of internalizing everything.
Once he realized he was the Villian he should have stopped it.I mean the habit is annoying and I would really have loved to see him get punched in the nose once because he is such an annoying brat!

(See Also: Inuyasha)

Light's Mom:Totally useless to the episode.They could have done the entire episode without her and no-one would have noticed the difference!

(See Also: Shippo, Koga, Souta, Kagome's Mom, Sesshoumaru, Rin, Jakken...)

Ryu:Why are the Shimgami so durn UGLY?They could use beauty tips from the Hollows on Bleach!

(Well, not all "gods of death" can wear pink kimono's, have long hair, and speak in a high bubbly voice.)

Plot:There was one?This was so full of holes that you could have flown the Enterprise through it.

(Plot holes?! IT'S THE FIRST EPISODE! As first eps go, this one was the most descriptive. It gives you the foundation of the story and gives you enough to carry over to the next episode without spelling out everything.)

Overall rating::thumbsdow:thumbsdow:thumbsdow:thumbsdow
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Hopefully the rest of the eps.won't be as insultingly poorly constructed as this one.

(Also, hopefully, it doesn't carry on for over a hundred episodes without getting anywhere.)



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Postby Radical Dreamer » Mon Oct 22, 2007 4:49 am

KhakiBlueSocks wrote:See the above in red. I mean no disrespect, but I just had to say something.


AHAHA. YOU SO WENT THERE. I appreciate this post. XD

Also, Death Note's something like 36 episodes. *nod*
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Postby ChristianKitsune » Mon Oct 22, 2007 5:44 am

Radical Dreamer wrote:AHAHA. YOU SO WENT THERE. I appreciate this post. XD

Also, Death Note's something like 36 episodes. *nod*


ohhhh compact for our convenience? :D
Long shows actually annoy me. ^^; I think 50 episodes or 26 episodes is a decent amount.
but 165 episodes where the majority of them are filler....drives me insane.
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Postby KBMaster » Mon Oct 22, 2007 10:42 am

Okay, people, we should probably obliterate the going back and forth between bashing Inuyasha and bashing Death Note. It's not very nice. :(

Back on topic: I think 36 episodes is a pretty good amount, although I'm hoping they don't cut the series off at a premature stage.
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Postby bakura_fan » Mon Oct 22, 2007 11:17 am

Since viz got the rights to dub the series...I wonder if they will get rights to the very short 15 minute movie? It's the whole series from Ryuk's side. At least that's what the description was. ^_^ I watched it on www.deathnote.tv (special director's cut) but since there were no subtitles, I could barely understand it. heh heh. Also, this is like the final episode since it includes everything from prior episodes (characters and situations).
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Postby Nate » Mon Oct 22, 2007 11:38 am

I just want to know what these plot holes were. I love how he claims there were huge plot holes but doesn't give an example of any of them.

In other words, "I don't like this anime so I'll make up something untrue to look intelligent."
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Postby Roy Mustang » Mon Oct 22, 2007 1:28 pm

Death Note is 37 eps long. I didn't find one plot hole at all.

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Postby uc pseudonym » Mon Oct 22, 2007 1:38 pm

I'm going to ask that the Inuyasha-themed discussion stop. Please, this is a Death Note thread. However, if mitsuki lover wants to name specific plot holes there can be discussion of those.

Mr. SmartyPants wrote:although it's quite loquacious at times

Did you choose that word to be ironic? Or do you actually use it in daily life?

Or are you just trying to make me think this is a question of irony or standard usage? Evidence would suggest it is more reasonable to assume that you chose that term in order to distract me from the first clause of the sentence. However, it seems equally probable that you are aware of this, making this a ruse within a ruse. I estimate it is 70%]Back on topic: I think 36 episodes is a pretty good amount, although I'm hoping they don't cut the series off at a premature stage.[/quote]
Unless I'm quite mistaken, the anime finishes the manga's plot, bringing it to a definite end.
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Postby Mr. SmartyPants » Mon Oct 22, 2007 2:52 pm

Only you, UC. Only you. XD
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Postby Yokuo » Mon Oct 22, 2007 3:04 pm

Death Note is 37 episodes long. The anime does end when the manga does. They don't cut much out, but the ending is slightly altered (but it's still good). The series as a whole does not have plotholes, just keep watching, because in the end it all makes sense.

There are two live-action movies out, which are pretty good. The first one follows the plot until the character Misa is introduced (Dub watchers, you'll meet her later. Then want to shoot her. Then shoot her again. Etc.). The second movie strays from the anime/manga script, but is very good nontheless. These movies are subs only right now and I doubt ViZ has the rights to them as of current.

There is one Death Note special (it was aforementioned as a short 15 munite movie). Actually, this is a 2 hour, 10 minute special (advertised as a 3 hour special due to commercials...), showing everything in the series (at least through L) from Ryuk's standpoint. There's only about 15 minutes of new footage, but the movie in it's entireity is much longer than that.

Additionally, there are three OST's released in Japan (not counting movies), as well as two DS games.

I hope that helps people with their questions, and I hope that helps you all understand the details of the serieses entireity better.
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Postby bakura_fan » Mon Oct 22, 2007 3:25 pm

Yokuo wrote:There are two live-action movies out, which are pretty good. The first one follows the plot until the character Misa is introduced (Dub watchers, you'll meet her later. Then want to shoot her. Then shoot her again. Etc.). The second movie strays from the anime/manga script, but is very good nontheless. These movies are subs only right now and I doubt ViZ has the rights to them as of current.


I actually prefer the live action final ending than the one in the series...^_^ because

[spoiler] L outsmarts Rem, the shinigami when it comes to his death. but then again, I am a major L fan so to see him time his death was a nice thing to watch. However, I've only skimmed the endings of the manga and anime, so I don't know if he comes back, but I don't think he does.[/spoiler]

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ah. ok. that would make more sense than calling 15 min of stuff a movie. ^^,
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Postby Yokuo » Mon Oct 22, 2007 4:15 pm

@bakura_fan: I liked the movie ending also. I'll stick with the show, but...

[spoiler]Remember in the movie, how Light told Ryuk to kill them, but Ryuk kills him? That's how it happens in the manga against Near. And no, L doesn't come back, except as a memory in Light's mind in the last episode.[/spoiler]
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Postby bakura_fan » Mon Oct 22, 2007 4:44 pm

Yokuo wrote:@bakura_fan: I liked the movie ending also. I'll stick with the show, but...

[spoiler]Remember in the movie, how Light told Ryuk to kill them, but Ryuk kills him? That's how it happens in the manga against Near. And no, L doesn't come back, except as a memory in Light's mind in the last episode.[/spoiler]

yeah. the show's pretty good too. ^_^ right now reading the manga, halfway through book 5.

[spoiler]ah. well phooey. :( but figures... L was such a cool character[/spoiler]
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Postby Felix » Mon Oct 22, 2007 5:16 pm

Omigosh, this is awesome news! ^__^ I've been wanting to watch this anime for mucho time... and now I get to! I hope the dub is good... and I hope they release it on DVD at some point. <.<
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Postby bakura_fan » Mon Oct 22, 2007 5:27 pm

Felix wrote:Omigosh, this is awesome news! ^__^ I've been wanting to watch this anime for mucho time... and now I get to! I hope the dub is good... and I hope they release it on DVD at some point. <.<


I believe the first DVD will be available next month. . .but I'm not sure. I think that's what the release date was for the pre order stuff.
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Postby Felix » Mon Oct 22, 2007 5:48 pm

Great to hear ^_^ I'm assuming they'll be releasing it with the option of the original japanese audio track? I tend to prefer subs over dubs, even if the dub is good.

And I didn't realize the show was on air already. I just went and watched it on the Adult Swim website. Wow, it's really good! Very cinematic... I actuallly found myself much more emotionally charged than I was in the manga, and just from episode 1. Looks like it's going to be really great!
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Postby bakura_fan » Mon Oct 22, 2007 6:01 pm

Felix wrote:Great to hear ^_^ I'm assuming they'll be releasing it with the option of the original japanese audio track? I tend to prefer subs over dubs, even if the dub is good.

And I didn't realize the show was on air already. I just went and watched it on the Adult Swim website. Wow, it's really good! Very cinematic... I actuallly found myself much more emotionally charged than I was in the manga, and just from episode 1. Looks like it's going to be really great!


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acording to this site it will. I'm going to wait until they come out in a box set. ^_^
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Postby Yokuo » Tue Oct 23, 2007 12:57 am

Yeah, DVD 1 comes out next month with a limited collectable figure. There will be dub and the subs with original japanese track, of course :P

Right now, I just want to see episode 2 of the dub. I have to know how they handle "L".
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Postby RobinSena » Tue Oct 23, 2007 9:07 am

Looks very interesting. I'm definitely looking forward to the full series being out on DVD.
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Postby Blitzkrieg1701 » Tue Oct 23, 2007 1:11 pm

Well, I'm no longer the only anime fan left in the world to have not seen Death Note. The first episode was pretty interesting, but I'll have to see some more to know if it really lives up to the hype or not.
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Postby uc pseudonym » Tue Oct 23, 2007 2:11 pm

I have yet to see the live action films, mostly due to lack of time. From what I've heard of the ending, however, I think that it creates a better story arc overall. But that takes us into "part two haters" versus "part two lovers" so we don't need to discuss it.

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Postby Yokuo » Tue Oct 23, 2007 9:58 pm

@UC pseudonym: That's exactly what it comes down to, but overall, it's a hard call... I feel it should have ended like in the movie. If you ever get time, anyway, make a note to see them! (no pun intended. Seriously. lol)
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Postby KhakiBlueSocks » Wed Oct 24, 2007 1:43 am

I don't know if anyone else noticed this, but when Light was writing in the Death Note towards the end, there were sparks shooting from his pen with each stroke. Dramatic effect, or is this just what naturally happens?
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Postby mechana2015 » Wed Oct 24, 2007 12:16 pm

I think its just a dramatic effect.
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Postby Felix » Sat Oct 27, 2007 9:31 am

Uwaa~ The second episode is up now, it's amaaazing. I love how they handled the confronation with L... and his voice. It's really perfect. :D I'm liking this more than the manga already, I thinks. Can't wait for more o.o

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Postby Yokuo » Sat Oct 27, 2007 4:21 pm

Yes, I watched it last night. I'm happy wth L's voice.
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