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Postby Roy Mustang » Tue Jan 05, 2010 8:27 pm

Spider-Man 4


ICv2 wrote:Shooting on Spider-Man 4 has been pushed back and the May 6, 2011 release date is in jeopardy, according to Deadline Hollywood. The problem is the script, which has been on a second rewrite since the summer (see "Gary Ross to Rewrite Spidey 4") and is still not ready to shoot. Crew members are being told to stand down until a new shooting start date is set.

Marvel movies (both from Marvel and its licensees) have aggressively staked out the first weekend in May (Free Comic Book Day!) for years, especially for Spider-Man, so the date will not be given up lightly, but a script would have to be approved soon for production to be completed in time.



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Postby Radical Dreamer » Tue Jan 05, 2010 8:38 pm

What, this thing was still actually in the works?

...Can they please just drop it? I'm still trying to erase Spidey 3 from my memory. XD
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Postby Roy Mustang » Tue Jan 05, 2010 8:45 pm

Radical Dreamer wrote:Can they please just drop it? I'm still trying to erase Spidey 3 from my memory. XD


They can't. Sony has put money in making more Spider Man movies. They plan to have Spider Man 4, 5 and 6.


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Postby Radical Dreamer » Tue Jan 05, 2010 8:50 pm

Roy Mustang (post: 1364064) wrote:They can't. Sony has put money in making more Spider Man movies. They plan to have Spider Man 4, 5 and 6.


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I will only ever approve of this if they spend movies 4, 5 and 6 completely backtracking over and erasing everything they did in the third film, re-creating it into something that actually makes sense and isn't a giant pile of Spidey-fail. XDD


I want Venom to be COOL again!! XD
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Postby Roy Mustang » Tue Jan 05, 2010 9:07 pm

Radical Dreamer (post: 1364065) wrote:I will only ever approve of this if they spend movies 4, 5 and 6 completely backtracking over and erasing everything they did in the third film, re-creating it into something that actually makes sense and isn't a giant pile of Spidey-fail. XDD


I want Venom to be COOL again!! XD


Sony was at fault over Venom being put in the Spider Man 3.

This was posted last month, but I didn't post it, because at the time, it was just nothing but a rumor, but now its ture. The reason why they have a problem with the script.

Sci Fi wire wrote:The site says there were problems with an incomplete script because director Raimi and Sony Pictures can't agree on a villain for the film.

Raimi is pushing hard for the Vulture to be the big baddie, something he also pushed for in the third film to star alongside the Sandman but didn't get and we all know how that one turned out.

On the flip side, who does the studio want to be the villain? Our source says they seem to only be interested in featuring which ever character is selling books right now but basically they have no idea, just not the Vulture.


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Postby Tarnish » Tue Jan 05, 2010 9:18 pm

I thought I heard that Kirsten Dunst said she wouldn't do another one of these movies...

That said, while I wish this movie were not being made at all, I can almost forgive Spider-Man 3 simply because it made this possible.
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Postby Radical Dreamer » Tue Jan 05, 2010 9:23 pm

Tarnish (post: 1364070) wrote:I can almost forgive Spider-Man 3 simply because it made this possible.


Thaaaaaat is amazing.


Carry on. XDD
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Postby Bobtheduck » Tue Jan 12, 2010 3:11 am

It's too soon for a reboot... Though I liked the hulk reboot that came out 5 minutes after the first one. Spiderman is different. Say what you will about spidey 3, Spidey 2 is in the top 10 comic book movies of all time, if not the top 5.
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Postby ShiroiHikari » Tue Jan 12, 2010 12:35 pm

I would like to see a different vision of Spiderman put to film, preferably one that doesn't suck, but I'm not getting my hopes up.

I personally never liked the cast of the Spiderman films. Tobey Maguire wasn't doing it for me and Kirsten Dunst forgot how to act, apparently. Willem Dafoe as Green Goblin was pretty cool but they screwed that up by not having him on the screen a whole lot.

Also I am literally the only person on the planet that hated Spiderman 2, so take my opinion with a grain of salt, I guess.
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Postby bigsleepj » Tue Jan 12, 2010 1:16 pm

I can't help but feel that rebooting Spiderman at this stage is a very bad idea. I have my issues with the series, the cast and the director, but they're not that bad / unwatchable, and the series HAS established itself firmly. It is not like other reboots like Batman where the series had hit a low point critically and financially (Batman and Robin) or just died a slow death (Superman) or just did not work from the beginning (Hulk). The last three movies are too firmly set in people's minds, and they will psychologically hang over the fourth movie like a grim socialist phantom (don't ask).

The one thing Raimi did particularly well was map Peter Parker's emotional and psychological development, and to lob the story back to highschool is not progression, it's regression. It's a deliberate invalidation. Yes, the third film was not the best (on some level its a retread of the second one, complete with the same emotional arcs slightly altered), but it did not sink the franchise, it did not make every fan of the films and comic books swear a blood oath never to return to a new movie (well, maybe a few) and I actually looked forward to the fourth film. But highschool? Maybe they're trying to go the Ultimate Spiderman Route, but for most of his publishing history the original Spiderman did not stay in school as far as I know.

The only reason they're doing it (probably) is because Hollywood is not particularly original, and seeing how some reboots (Batman, practically the only one) paid off they're probably hoping to catch some of the same magic. Or maybe they're just trying to get Sam Raimi's goat; Hollywood has a pretty large, extended history for extreme pettiness.

Its impossible to tell if the movie will be any good at this stage, but the fact that they're yelling "REBOOT" days after losing their director is not a good sign. You have to wait more than ten minutes...
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Postby Tarnish » Tue Jan 12, 2010 2:23 pm

Dude, I'm really not old at all and I remember seeing the first Spider-Man movie in theaters. And they're rebooting it?

...I don't know why, but I'm getting serious "One More Day" flashbacks all of a sudden.
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Postby Nate » Wed Jan 13, 2010 5:03 pm

I agree with Bob and Johnnie. Why a reboot of Spider-Man? It does seem like they're just looking at what Batman and Hulk did and saying "Hey, reboots are the COOL thing to do!" Spider-Man 3 was crap on toast but to do a reboot? It doesn't make a lot of sense. People are comparing it to Ultimate Spider-Man but the reason for that was because there was about 50 years of backstory to Spider-Man and they knew that making references to storylines from the 80s or even 90s would alienate a lot of new readers, plus you have the problem of "If Peter Parker has been around since 1960 wouldn't he be like 50 years old?" That's why the Ultimate series was made, so that new readers could start from day one without needing to know things like who Ben Reilly is.

So this is nothing like the Ultimate series, most people have seen the first three movies and there's zero reason to do a reboot except maybe to spite Sam Raimi and because it's the hip-happenin' thing to do because all the young kids are into those hula-hoops and rock music and movie reboots.
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Postby Cognitive Gear » Wed Jan 13, 2010 5:41 pm

I'm pretty happy about this, myself. I'm not a big fan of the Raimi version of Spider-man, though it wasn't terrible.

I'm hoping that whoever gets this project is brings a more witty Spider-man to the screen. Alternatively, it would be nice if Marvel's movie studios could strike a deal to work on the film a bit.
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Postby mechana2015 » Wed Jan 13, 2010 9:26 pm

I think that the reason they're doing jumping at the reboot is the Avengers movie. They didn't set it up across the three movies they made and may have had issues with Raimi or some of the actors with setting it up so spider man could be an Avenger in the fourth movie, in addition to their near catastrophic venom portrayal in 3. Maybe we'll get Mysterio done this time, and a better Venom. Maybe even Carnage?
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Postby rocklobster » Thu Jan 14, 2010 1:26 pm

Yeah, but making him an Avenger wouldn't work. It didn't work in the comic, so why would it work here?
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Postby Nate » Thu Jan 14, 2010 2:55 pm

I know! And like, in the comics he had to create wrist cartridges to shoot webs but in the movies it was naturally part of his mutation!

Man, it's almost like the movies are their OWN SEPARATE REALITY that have nothing to do with the comic or something!
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Postby thisiskris89 » Thu Jan 14, 2010 3:53 pm

aww it was gonna come out on my 22nd b-day!stoopit writer guy><
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Postby Cognitive Gear » Tue Jan 19, 2010 7:55 pm

Marc Webb, director of (500) Day of Summer, is officially the director for Spider-man 2012.

(500) Days of Summer was one of my favorite movies of last year. I am now officially excited for this movie.
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