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In 1983, a group of fascist aliens known as the Visitors arrived on Earth promising goodwill. But they were lying. These reptilian aliens easily took over the planet and almost succeeded in crushing us under their heels. Luckily, an underground resistance was enough to oppose them.
This was the premise for V, a TV series that ran on NBC from 1983-1985. It was a cool miniseries and is most likely available on DVD now. It also launched the career of Robert Englund, infamous for his role as Freddy Krueger in the Elm Street movies.
Now the series has been remade and airs on ABC. If you didn't watch the pilot on Tuesday, I urge you to go online and do it now. (Assuming they have that capability on the homepage.) The remake appears to be faithful to the original and even has the same people writing it. I watched the pilot when it aired and I was immediately hooked. I enjoyed the first run of V and am eager to see how things go this time.

I'd seen they were doing this and would love to check it out.

FIY:The old tv series came later. The miniseries was a two part series in 1983 and then they did a three part miniseries called V: The Final Battle. Then the tv series that ran from 1984 to 1985 with what most fans have said a crappy ending to it. Most hope that the new series will not go that route as far the ending.

I only saw the tv series a little as a kid. Looking back at it and seeing it, you can tell how hard it was to do a series like this with the special effects and they were very hokey special effects to this day and age, but for its time, it wasn't.

As for the new series, I really liking it. But I want to see more, before I'm hook on it.

The only thing that I'm worried about is, they are going to only show four eps in Nov and then it will not pick up until March of 2010.

So if people don't get a chance to watch it now, I would say they will air the eps again in March to get people caught up or will show them online on ABC website or through other streaming websites.

Another then this show, The Prisoner to air on AMC next week are the only ones that I will be watching on TV as new series that I will be watching this year.

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Roy Mustang (post: 1354306) wrote:
The only thing that I'm worried about is, they are going to only show four eps in Nov and then it will not pick up until March of 2010.

Three words.

LOST final season.

Just about any show ABC has would end up getting bumped for that.

mechana2015 wrote:Three words.

LOST final season.

Just about any show ABC has would end up getting bumped for that.

Nope, that is not the reason. They are going to resume in March 2010 after the 2010 Winter Olympics to complete its 13-episode season. The production on the remaining nine episodes will resume in January 2010 as well.

Which I wondering is Lost going to head to head with the Olympics?


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Roy Mustang (post: 1354345) wrote:Nope, that is not the reason. They are going to resume in March 2010 after the 2010 Winter Olympics to complete its 13-episode season. The production on the remaining nine episodes will resume in January 2010 as well.

Which I wondering is Lost going to head to head with the Olympics?


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I'm guessing LOST will go head to head with the Olympics. The markets for the two are somewhat exclusive from each other, and LOST will only really be facing up to it for about 2 weeks. The Olympics will have every day of those weeks, but LOST will have the rest of the season to win its ratings.

If anyone that miss the Pilot, you can watch it on ABC website until tomorrow night at 8 pm ET time.

Pilot ep


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I was generally pleased with the first episode. It'll take a few more for me to decide if this was a remake someone put some quality thought into doing, or if they just hoped to capitalize off nostalgia. Time will tell.

V week 2 drops 29% -- where'd all the viewers go?

[quote="Sci Fi wire"]Last week's second episode of ABC's alien-invasion series V saw its viewership drop off dramatically—on the order of 29 percent—from its premiere a week earlier, which drew a massive audience of 13.9 million viewers.

So where'd they all go?

Here's The Hollywood Reporter's take on it in its Live Feed blog:

After last week's record-setting premiere, ABC's "V" was destined to drop in the ratings for episode two.

Driven by 1980s nostalgia and plenty of marketing, viewer curiosity ran high for the debut—a pattern we've seen in recent years for network remakes of "Knight Rider," "90210" and "American Gladiators." Tuesday night's decline, therefore, was not exactly surprising ... yet it was pretty steep.

The second "V" hour was seen by 10.6 million viewers and drew a 3.7 preliminary rating among adults 18-49, down 29% from last week. That's the largest fall from a premiere we've seen for a scripted show this season.

In the second episode, "There Is No Normal Anymore," Erica (Elizabeth Mitchell) discovers that Jack (Joel Gretsch) is a priest, and he finds out she works for the FBI]

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V deathwatch: ratings drop another 18%

[quote="Sci Fi wire"]Wow, looks like ABC's V is definitely in trouble.

Last night's third episode saw ratings and audience drop significantly again, down 18 percent to 9.3 million (3.1 rating among adults 18-49), according to The Hollywood Reporter's Live Feed blog.

That after a precipitous 29 percent drop in week two from the blockbuster premiere.

We're going to go out on a limb and say that the lizard aliens won't be on Earth for very long. Remember, ABC is airing only four episodes now (the last one airs next week) and was planning on returning to the air next spring with the final episodes of season one.

We don't know, but we've always thought this was ABC's way of not committing to the production of the show before they had a good sense of which way the audience would go]

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That's why I hate ABC. If it's not comedy, they're never interested.

That's a shame I really liked V. It was a pretty interesting and entertaining series. I saw the first two episodes online at Hulu.com (legal) and I enjoyed it and saw the latest on TV (finally).

I hope this series doesn't end abruptly since it's one of better shows on non-cable TV besides some of the many murder mystery series IMO. -__-

I don't know, 9 million viewers seems like a lot to me, but then again I don't know anything about television ratings.

ShiroiHikari wrote:I don't know, 9 million viewers seems like a lot to me, but then again I don't know anything about television ratings.

Really, 9 million viewers is not bad, but from what the ratings were for the Plot, it shows a drop in viewers.

The Pilot ep had 14.30 million viewers, Rank 2 in Timeslot , Rank 2 of that night and rank 1 in 18-49 age group.

No. two ep had 10.70 million viewers and the rank was the same in timeslot as the week before but rank 5th of that night. Then this week's ep the viewers were 9.32 million viewers and the rank in timeslot was no 3 and 6 in rank of that night.

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Also do those ratings count the number of times it's been viewed on Hulu?

ShiroiHikari wrote:Also do those ratings count the number of times it's been viewed on Hulu?

I haven't seen it listed as count the number of viewed on the net. I would think they would be, like Flash forward show on ABC is only being saved, because of the high number of DVR of the show.

Its also why I haven't been watching NCIS in the past few weeks, because I can watch the eps on Hulu.


Then again, the rantings may have drop because no one has eaten a guinea pig yet. I want some one to eat a guinea pig like the old series had.


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rocklobster (post: 1356927) wrote:That's why I hate ABC. If it's not comedy, they're never interested.

The channel or the audience?

the channel. And they keep Lost on because it has good ratings, Roy.

rocklobster (post: 1357060) wrote:the channel. And they keep Lost on because it has good ratings, Roy.

And ratings means money. And money means getting more shows that will appeal to most audiences.

If there was a TV station not run by ratings and money, now that would be something.

On topic, I never did see the original V series. Though the idea of it does sound interesting and I may check out the remake online, at least. ^_^ I think if the show continues to hold some interest and improve, the ratings will pick up. Only few shows start out with awesome ratings.

rocklobster wrote:the channel. And they keep Lost on because it has good ratings, Roy.

Now just think what you said yesterday. Its not the channel to blame, but people not watching it. As what Golden just said, so you can't blame the network and think they don't care, its people that don't care. Because the way you said it, the network only care about comedy, and if the was true, then why is Lost still on. I don't believe that is a comedy. Its on because people watch it and love the show.

Its all about ratings and if a show has bad ratings, then no money for the network.Then its going to be taken off the air.

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The problem with networks is they want shows to be INSTANT SMASH HIT all the time. They need to give shows time to find an audience and give the audience time to find the shows. Not every show can be super mega ultra hit like Lost.

rocklobster (post: 1357060) wrote:the channel.

―]That's capitalism[/I]. You don't stock products that don't sell, quality is irrelevant. You stock up on popular items and slowly filter out low sellers, and occasionally take a risk with dangerous new opportunities, like V. Science fiction is always a pretty niche audience for mainstream television. You're chewing out ABC when you should be thankful that they even took a shot at all.

It's not surprising that the premier saw a drop by the second episode. Nobody knows what the first episode is about. Afterward, they do, and then decide if they want to bother to keep up with it. Further ratings drops by the third episode is unfortunate, but that's on the shoulders of the audience.

That you hate the channel for its audience boggles my mind.

Saw the pilot ep, this morning. The choice of actors and acting was ... yeah. Not satisfactory, but the plot is pretty interesting so far. *shrug*

Fish, my problem is that some shows take a long time to reveal their plot. They got to have the time to get the kinks out. Giving a show four weeks to get an audience and deciding then is not enough time.
But then you're right. This is why Sci-fi works better as print than as visual.

I still fail to see how not capturing audiences' attention is somehow the fault of the network. If the creators of the show have failed in creating a show that makes people want to watch it, that's their problem, not the network's. The network has zero obligation to keep a program that gets poor ratings "because it might get better eventually at some point in time!"

What's the old saying? "Time is money?" If a show is wasting the network's time, it's also wasting their money. This is not the network's problem, it's the show's problem for not being interesting enough.

Yeah but why is 9 million viewers considered poor?

Fish and Chips (post: 1357093) wrote:Of course they kept Lost because it has good ratings.

. . .

Science fiction is always a pretty niche audience for mainstream television.

Actually, this is where I think most people are seeing things differently. Lost IS science fiction--about as science fiction as they come, really. However, it gets good ratings because it's a well-written show with characters the audience cares about and questions the audience trusts will be answered.

And I think it's kind of faulty to say that sci-fi is a niche audience for mainstream television. Star Trek, anyone? Granted, the times have changed and more people tend to lean towards comedies or dramas, but I think a large audience will enjoy a well-written show. I haven't watched V for myself just yet, but perhaps the audience is falling away because it's not written in a manner that draws a good audience. I'm just guessing, though.

Also, let's keep this civil, guys. No need for a snarky tone when there's no bait for it.

Radical Dreamer (post: 1357169) wrote:Actually, this is where I think most people are seeing things differently. Lost IS science fiction--about as science fiction as they come, really. However, it gets good ratings because it's a well-written show with characters the audience cares about and questions the audience trusts will be answered.

Yeah, I don't think that's a fair comparison. V wears its science fiction ambitions right out on its sleeve, whereas Lost eased you into it. I've still only watched the first three episodes of Lost, but that alone proves my point]And I think it's kind of faulty to say that sci-fi is a niche audience for mainstream television. Star Trek, anyone? Granted, the times have changed and more people tend to lean towards comedies or dramas, but I think a large audience will enjoy a well-written show.[/QUOTE]No, science fiction is still niche. Star Trek is a notable exception, as is, for that matter, Star Wars, which actually opened up the genre to people.

Remember that when I say niche, it's a comparative term. Nine million is a lot of people, but how many more watch other shows in other genres and on other channels?

Radical Dreamer wrote:Lost IS science fiction--about as science fiction as they come, really.

Funny that you bring that up. Not too long ago, Elizabeth Mitchell had an interview that was posted on Sci Fi channel. She was saying that V wasn't a science fiction show, which is. But she said that Lost was and quoted and said, I'm glad to be done with a science fiction show.

It kind of got some heated comments from people as saying that she needs to get a clue that she still doing science fiction series.

I haven't watched V for myself just yet, but perhaps the audience is falling away because it's not written in a manner that draws a good audience. I'm just guessing, though.

Its kind of the writing. The first ep, which I like was good. But we have been stuck with a plot that hasn't move along that much.

With this being the last week that it will be on, until March of next year. People know that its going to end on a cliffhanger.

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Roy, I think I know why no lizards have eaten any guinea pigs. If they did that, PETA would be up in arms!