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Postby Sesshoumaru » Sat Jan 22, 2005 4:08 pm

What it's just to discuss the series. Lighten up jeez :shake:
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Postby relientkrox » Sat Jan 22, 2005 4:30 pm

personally i find this to be very offensive...i take it as the fact that we may be the only example of Jesus that some people see....and if i spend my spare time watching shows that use profanity as a form of humor....well that isnt very Jesus like to me....so i personally dont think a Christian should fill thier minds with things of that matter...worldly humor isnt so funny anymore
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Postby Jman » Sat Jan 22, 2005 4:46 pm

I find it offencive how he is briinging this crud into these forums, now I understand everyone is entitled to their opian I mean buy for petes sake this is a CHRISTIAN forum and South Park is neither Christian nor Child fridly, and we have some younger members on these forums, and also the fact that he is cussing really ticks me off.

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Postby _Sin_ » Sat Jan 22, 2005 5:12 pm

Jman wrote:I find it offencive how he is briinging this crud into these forums, now I understand everyone is entitled to their opian I mean buy for petes sake this is a CHRISTIAN forum and South Park is neither Christian nor Child fridly, and we have some younger members on these forums, and also the fact that he is cussing really ticks me off.


If you find this thread offensive: Simply, don't post and let the Mods deal with it if they think that it's against the rules. You know, not posting in a particular thread is also a way to voice your opinion and everything will be fine; those who don't like Southpark stay away from the thread and those who do discuss it here. What does that tell us? It's possible to not only please both sides but to also convey a message of tolerance.

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Postby Hitokiri » Sat Jan 22, 2005 5:23 pm

I agree with Sin though. I usually stay away from Inuyasha or Harry Potter threads cause frankly, I dislike them. If you don't like a particular thing, don't pat attention to it. Just ask yourself if it's worth your time.

But then again...this is Christian forum and for us to pay no heed to a obviously anti-christian show when we can't discuss subjects such as politics or Evangelion, why should we allow South Park discussions that may even cause worse arguements.

" wrote:One of the funniest ones was "It hits the Fan" when they said s*** uncensored. They said it 162 times. It was hilarious


I fail to see any trace of humor in that. Cussing and Swearing is compromising to the world and it's views and as Christians, we shouldn't. Instead of looking through the worlds eyes, we must at the world through God and the Bible. I just wanted to make that comment.
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Postby agasfas » Sat Jan 22, 2005 5:25 pm

I find it very Balsamous. I remember watching a few episodes long time ago and they make fun of Jesus and religion-- christians and jews. I remember a few eps where Jesus has a TV show called "Jesus, too hot for TV." Plus they have him curse a lot, boxing with Satan etc... Also, i don't find humor in bestiality... they have a few episode about that too. OVerall, it's one of the stupidest shows I've ever seen. It's not funny and it's dumb. It's a good way to currupt your mind.

One of the funniest ones was "It hits the Fan" when they said s*** uncensored. They said it 162 times. It was hilarious

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Yeah man, what can I say, that was the funniest thing I've seen. Humor at it's best I say...
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THere are other ways to be funny then to make jokes about God, religion, homosexuals, bestiality, cursing, the poor, the handicapped etc. If that's the only kind of humor you perfer, then you need do some self evaluation and where you stand with God.

It's quite sad to see young people think there is nothing wrong with these things.
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Postby _Sin_ » Sat Jan 22, 2005 5:37 pm

Now that's interesting because the policies tell us this:

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One of our primary goals is to provide a list of Christian-approved anime and a list of anime that should be avoided. Violence, cursing, hentai (pornogrophy), homosexuality and nudity will be dealt with accordingly, not glossed over like many other reviewers. For example, if there's an episode with a nude scene but has a good message, we'll highlight both things in there, not just up-play the message and down-play the nudity.
As in everything else, CAA will take Biblical attitudes towards homosexuality and other subject matters. While this means we do NOT promote the act itself, we recognize the people involved in this act are sinners, just like us. Christ came to forgive ALL, not just the good people. In this context, CAA's policy is 'love the sinner, hate the sin'.


Feel free to correct me but I will tell you what I understand from this: This board exists to illucidate anime series for their Christian value while still striving to retain tolerance. You cannot achieve this with shutting down any thread dealing with topics that the site sees as non-Christian-approved the moment it's created. The Forum is there to discuss good and bad sides so that everyone can form their own opinion about the series. Outright forbidding something is not very efficient since the effect of doing this is less big than actually allowing a civilized discussion, so that everyone else can come to a conclusion if the series is worth watching or not.
That's how I feel, feel free to disagree though.

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agasfas wrote:I remember a few eps where Jesus has a TV show called "Jesus, too hot for TV." Plus they have him curse a lot, boxing with Satan etc...


I already said how I interpreted this: I think it's making fun of the people who go to talk shows telling everyone "Look at me, I'm Jesus!" and the media for believing him and trying to market everything. It's their way of criticism and some might not be able to stomach at like others but keep in mind that this is not directed against Christianity at all.
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Postby Arnobius » Sat Jan 22, 2005 5:49 pm

Hitokiri wrote:I agree with Sin though. I usually stay away from Inuyasha or Harry Potter threads cause frankly, I dislike them. If you don't like a particular thing, don't pat attention to it. Just ask yourself if it's worth your time.

But then again...this is Christian forum and for us to pay no heed to a obviously anti-christian show when we can't discuss subjects such as politics or Evangelion, why should we allow South Park discussions that may even cause worse arguements.



I fail to see any trace of humor in that. Cussing and Swearing is compromising to the world and it's views and as Christians, we shouldn't. Instead of looking through the worlds eyes, we must at the world through God and the Bible. I just wanted to make that comment.

On the other hand, it helps to understand on what grounds it is condemned. I won't watch it anymore because of some of their more insulting behavior, and wilfully blasphemous concepts. However, just labelling it as "evil" in a knee-jerk way without defining why is dangerous because it tends to give those out there who hate us fodder for the "dumb fundy Christian" label they slap on us.

I think of it this way. Yes, there are impressionable kids here, but which will make a more lasting impression: The statement that SOuth Park is stupid and evil and nobody should watch it might not make a good impression, while someone who explains why it is bad might achieve better results.

I'm not very eloquent, but I can say that the show is morally offensive because it deliberately caters to the lowest possible taste, uses profanity to try to shock the viewers, treats Christianity as a religion of bigoted fools and portrays Christ as a bumbler. It mocks our morality, treating anyone with moral issues as being hypocritical.

I quit watching the show about 3 or 4 years ago because the treatment of Christianity and morality got to be too offensive even for me. If there are people out there who share my values and still watch the show, I'd advise them to quit and not support "shock humor" that got old about the time the movie came out.
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Postby agasfas » Sat Jan 22, 2005 5:57 pm

I quit watching the show about 3 or 4 years ago because the treatment of Christianity and morality got to be too offensive even for me.


I'm the same way, I watched the first two seasons then stopped watching it. Long time agao... I think it was when i was in about 7-8grade. It just got old and repetitive fast.. plus I just didn't care for the humor. I only really watched it to have something to talk about with my friends in middle school. I just think there is a better way to make people laugh that doesn't have to be so balsamous.

But ya know, so goes life. There will be things I agree with and things I don't. No one is a "perfect" christian as they might want to believe they are. We can easily say don't do this or, that is evil. We all do things that doesn't always go over well with God. We all sin. I just don't think we should purposely brush off things that we know aren't right... it doesn't help.
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Postby Arnobius » Sat Jan 22, 2005 6:08 pm

agasfas wrote:I'm the same way, I watched the first two seasons then stopped watching it. Long time agao... I think it was when i was in about 7-8grade. It just got old and repetitive fast.. plus I just didn't care for the humor. I only really watched it to have something to talk about with my friends in middle school. I just think there is a better way to make people laugh that doesn't have to be so balsamous.

But ya know, so goes life. There will be things I agree with and things I don't. No one is a "perfect" christian as they might want to believe they are. We can easily say don't do this or, that is evil. We all do things that doesn't always go over well with God. We all sin. I just don't think we should do things that will just make the damage any worse.

7th/8th grade during the first 2 seasons? AACCk! I'm old! <Sorry, shouldn't have posted that>
You are right about nobody being a perfect Christian. As I said earlier in the thread, I do like humor that could be considered "bad taste." Sometimes I forget my responsibilities as a Christian.

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Postby Sesshoumaru » Sat Jan 22, 2005 7:29 pm

Ummmm you people DO realize that when they "insult" Christianity in the show it is not reciprocated?? it happened once or twice in the show :shake:
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Postby ShiroiHikari » Sat Jan 22, 2005 8:07 pm

South Park makes fun of everyone and everything. it's not like it's exclusive to Christianity. it's not even really ANTI-Christianity. what the creators of South Park seem to be most opposed to is 1. ignorance, 2. bigotry, 3. censorship. true, the language is used for shock value most of the time, but the truth is a lot of people in real life everyday talk like that. swearing is only as offensive as you make it, in my opinion.

anyway, to prevent further discord, I'm going to close this.
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Postby Arnobius » Sat Jan 22, 2005 8:08 pm

I can't speak for what happened after I quit watching. However, during the time I did watch, there were several instances where they crossed the line. Among them: Starvin Marvin in Space where Christians are portrayed as evil, the Passion Play where Cartman plays Jesus, the Y2K episode, the Explosive Diarrhea episode (where parents opposed to the show are portrayed as mindless Christian bigots), Satan vs Jesus, the one about Stan's gay dog and so on. These either had a very intolerant view of Christians or made Christ look like a befuddled idiot.

I agree that the "Too Hot for TV" bit on Jesus' TV show was making fun of the Jerry Springer show (Mexican Staring Frog?), but I think just during the three 1/2 seasons I watched, there was enough material to repel me. No I don't think the *sole* purpose of the show was to mock Christianity, but I think Parker and Stone made their hostility towards Christianity quite clear.
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