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Postby Warrior 4 Jesus » Sat Aug 21, 2010 7:32 pm

Rocklobster, I've only known classic Doctor Who episodes to go for up to 30 minutes. A story would be anything from two to seven episodes long (sometimes more). The reboot introduced the idea of 60 minute episodes and only a small number are double-episode stories. I don't think I've ever heard of 90 minute classic Doctor Who episodes.
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Postby Htom Sirveaux » Sat Aug 21, 2010 9:28 pm

Oh, favorite stories. Forgot to mention that.

Classic: Although Tom Baker isn't my favorite Doctor, I'd have to say The Brain of Morbius is quite possibly the best example of a classic Doctor Who story I've ever seen. I need to get the DVD, I only have it on VHS.

Modern: This one's gotta go to The End of the World. It just goes so over-the-top with all those great, bizarre alien creatures, and it restates a rule that the classic series went by: the show is often at its best when it's not taking itself seriously.

My favorite thing about Doctor Who in general? I don't even really like sci-fi.

@W4J: Some of the later stories do have funky lengths like that. For instance, Colin Baker's Revelation of the Daleks is comprised of two +/- 45-minute episodes. Each episode is an hour timeslot when you factor in commercial breaks. And I think the TV movie with Paul McGann (the 8th Doctor) was about 90 minutes long, although American audiences never saw that one.
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Postby rocklobster » Sun Aug 22, 2010 4:06 am

Warrior 4 Jesus (post: 1418821) wrote:Rocklobster, I've only known classic Doctor Who episodes to go for up to 30 minutes. A story would be anything from two to seven episodes long (sometimes more). The reboot introduced the idea of 60 minute episodes and only a small number are double-episode stories. I don't think I've ever heard of 90 minute classic Doctor Who episodes.


Well, the PBS station I watched must've combined the 45-minute eps so that they ran 90 minutes and removed the opening from some of them. (I looked up on Wikipedia. Beginning with Colin Baker, they started running 45 minutes, w/o ads.
Oh wait, here's quote from TV Tropes' trivia page:
When the series was first syndicated in the US, many stations did not show it in its half-hour long, cliff-hanger format. Instead, a "movie version", made up of all episodes of one adventure, but with the cliff-hanger endings edited out, would be shown. Since the number of episodes used to tell one story would sometimes vary (usually four episodes, but sometimes 6, 7, or only 2), the "movie versions" varied in length. Because of this, many stations showed the movie versions on weekends, in late-night or early-morning slots, where their schedules were more flexible.

That explains why I stayed up late on Saturday nights a lot when I lived in Federal Way, WA. This was before Adult Swim appeared too! Luckily, I have DVD players that fix the need to stay up.
I guess we should say why we like a certain doctor best. The main reason I like 6 is he's the most aggressive. (I wasn't there for 3, but I hear he was action heroish too) I think after all the bad stuff the 5th one went through (True, Adric was annoying and whiny, but I think if I had to stand and watch someone I lived with that long die and be unable to stop it, I'd be pretty messed up), it'd seem logical for him to be tempermental in the next regeneration. Plus, I liked the colorful outfit.
Oh, and CT Girl, I did some wikipedia walking. Turns out some of the episodes from doctors 1 and 2 are missing. That may be why you're having problems with them.
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Postby Htom Sirveaux » Sun Aug 22, 2010 3:29 pm

rocklobster wrote:Turns out some of the episodes from doctors 1 and 2 are missing.


:sweat:Yes, the vast majority of them, in fact. There's precious little out there, especially of the second Doctor. If you wanna see some of their work, I'd recommend William Hartnell's The Keys of Marinus and Patrick Troughton's Tomb of the Cybermen, both of which did survive and can be found on DVD.
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Postby rocklobster » Mon Aug 23, 2010 2:25 pm

BTW, has anyone seen the two spin-offs, The Sarah Jane Adventures and Torchwood
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Postby goldenspines » Mon Aug 23, 2010 5:19 pm

rocklobster (post: 1419256) wrote:BTW, has anyone seen the two spin-offs, The Sarah Jane Adventures and Torchwood

I've seen bits and pieces of both. The former is more for a younger crowd and the latter is mainly for adults only (concerning its content). Doctor Who will probably always remain the happy medium between them by being suitable for most ages.
Though, fun fact, the tenth Doctor has made a guest appearance on The Sarah Jane Adventures and it's scheduled for the next season to have a guest appearance by the eleventh Doctor.
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Postby acgifford » Tue Aug 24, 2010 9:45 am

goldenspines (post: 1419296) wrote:
Though, fun fact, the tenth Doctor has made a guest appearance on The Sarah Jane Adventures and it's scheduled for the next season to have a guest appearance by the eleventh Doctor.


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Postby c.t.,girl » Tue Aug 24, 2010 10:57 pm

tenth doctor was also in the fourth harry potter movie! *u*
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Postby acgifford » Wed Aug 25, 2010 9:18 am

oh totaly! I noticed that as well! He was good.^^ His insane twitch was awesome.
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Postby Yuki-Anne » Wed Aug 25, 2010 5:22 pm

The best scene with them yet has to be when they encounter the Cybermen in the reboot series 2. Robot trash-talking at its finest.


YES.

First Doctor: Tom Baker. My parents used to rent VHS tapes of the Tom Baker years when I was a kid. We got a couple with Pertwee and Davison, but nobody could stand up next to Tom Baker.

Favorite Doctor: David Tennant. Hands down. Baker comes in second, with Eccleston and Smith vying for third. I haven't seen enough of Smith to really like him just yet. I need to finish Season 5.

Favorite Episode: Oh, goodness. That's a tough one. The End of Time was soooo good. Also, I adored the grandness and scope of The Stolen Earth two-parter. But I loved Blink's zaniness, creepiness, and general originality. They're all so good.

Favorite Villain: The Master, hands down.

Favorite Companion: Four-way tie: Donna, Rose, Amy, and Rory.



I caught the first few episodes of Torchwood but it wasn't for me. The content was too adult for comfort. I haven't seen any of the Sarah Jane Adventures.
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Postby Blitzkrieg1701 » Sat Aug 28, 2010 3:37 pm

Like a lot of the late arrivals here, my first Doctor was Eccleston but my favorite is Tennant. However, I have caught up on enough of the classic to rank Tom Baker as my second favorite Doctor.
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Postby rocklobster » Sun Aug 29, 2010 8:12 am

There's a Doctor Who marathon on Syfy on Monday August 30 starting at 7 am-3pm CST! Don't know if this means it's being added. They're still on the David Tennant era, though.
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Postby Htom Sirveaux » Mon Aug 30, 2010 4:13 pm

You know, it occurs to me that if the Daleks are sort of "intergalactic Nazis," then the Cybermen are the Conquistadors of the Spanish Inquisition. Think about it: They consider themselves to be mankind in its most perfect form, and are driven by some unquestionable sense of duty to "convert" the human race into one of their own. And they don't present it as an option; Or rather the option is either "YOU WILL BE LIKE US!" or "DELETE! DELETE!"

So the show has and still does stick close to the original "historical fiction" idea, even when it's not readily obvious. You could write a thesis on this stuff. Probably, somebody has.
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Postby rocklobster » Tue Aug 31, 2010 12:45 pm

I was wondering which version of the Master people like best. As someone who was there in the "serial" days, I'd have to say I like the Arthur Ainley and "crispy" Masters (the latter was played by Geoffrey Beeves and Peter Pratt). I haven't seen much of the reboot (I'm working on it, okay? I'll be starting soon, I promise!), so I can't really give an opinion on John Simms' performance, or anyone else's for that matter.
(BTW, I found out that in 2011, the BBC might finally release that TV movie Mark McGann played the Doctor in on DVD. I'm kinda curious about it, if only to see how "awful" it really was.)
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Postby Yuki-Anne » Tue Aug 31, 2010 1:33 pm

John Simm was absolutely brilliant. Just throwing that out there.
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Postby Htom Sirveaux » Tue Aug 31, 2010 3:28 pm

Yuki-Anne wrote:John Simm was absolutely brilliant. Just throwing that out there.


Oh, yeah. Totally opposite end of the spectrum from Roger Delgado and Anthony Ainley in terms of personality, but great fun.
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Postby ich1990 » Tue Aug 31, 2010 11:08 pm

Just saw John Simm a few days ago. Great, great villain. Now there was a guy who loved his job.

As for Cybermen and Daleks.... I guess that means Dr. Who just answered the age old question of who would win in a fight: Nazis or Conquistadors. Well, maybe it is not age old. Well, maybe no one asked it either--well, maybe someone.
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Postby goldenspines » Wed Sep 01, 2010 5:31 am

rocklobster (post: 1420917) wrote:(BTW, I found out that in 2011, the BBC might finally release that TV movie Mark McGann played the Doctor in on DVD. I'm kinda curious about it, if only to see how "awful" it really was.)

Oh THAT movie. XD It was very strange to say the least, but it does count, somewhat, in the Doctor's life (since that is about all we get of the 8th Doctor and the reboot of the series goes straight to the 9th Doctor). Since it was in a movie format, there wasn't much time for the character development of this new Doctor, which left the movie lacking (especially since it took until maybe 15 minutes before the end for the Doctor to remember who the heck he was).
The movie was mediocre at best. The events after this regeneration was one of the more interesting ones, though.

Also, it was Paul McGann, not Mark. ^_^



Concerning the Master, John Simm filled the role very well, and if anything, he took the character to new heights. Instead of just being "that other timelord who's always trying to get power and messing up the Doctor's plans" he presented himself as the Doctor's foil, thus emphasizes the Doctor's selfless kindness and the Master's selfish madness.
That being said, I don't like the Master character too much, but I think he makes a good rival (more than a villain) for the Doctor. Plus, I liked his part in End of Time.

Though:
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Postby rocklobster » Wed Sep 01, 2010 6:08 am

Just so you guys will stop saying "You should check out the reboot!", I have been watching it off and on. I'm backtracking to see what I missed of the original, but I have been watching it. I can understand why you folks like David Tennant so much. I think if the Doctor isn't eccentric, he's not as much fun. And David captures his eccentricities so well, it's almost as if he was born for the part. From what I've seen, my favorite part is the Children in Need special where he meets the Fifth Doctor. It's not canonical, per se, but it's so fun for the fans. Now if only they'd have the new guys meet Tom Baker!
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