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Computer hanging hard

Postby Slater » Fri Apr 27, 2007 6:46 pm

Alright, I'm not sure what to do or what is wrong... but my computer keeps freezing. Doesn't respond to any input I give it; keyboard, mouse, nothing.

So I hard reset it, it boots up, then locks up completely again. Round and round we go.

I try running it in safemode to run virus scan and spyware scan... well, I started the spyware scan, left the room for a few seconds, come back and there's a lot of stuff listed... but that's not what bothers me...

It said that the scan was aborted by the user...

That doesn't make sense since I was out of the room and nobody else is home but me... How could a user have canceled it when there is no user?

So I start scanning again... 30 seconds later, boom; locks up just like before.

Reboot, safemode again, try again... boom, locks up before anything can happen.

Anyone have any idea what's going on here?

btw, yeah, all OS-related stuff is up to date. Microsoft has nothing to say.
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Postby Mithrandir » Fri Apr 27, 2007 8:00 pm

Hmm... If the system cannot read the hard disk, it's possible the scanning software could misinterpret that as a user interrupt. Can you boot to a CLI (or preferably from another drive like a CD or floppy) and run scan disk? That would answer that question, at least.

BTW. If you don't know about it, check this out:
http://www.ultimatebootcd.com/

I HIGHLY recommend that you include this in your arsenal of error-finding stuff. It includes memory scanners, HD scanners, and all kinds of other fun stuff.

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Postby Slater » Fri Apr 27, 2007 8:32 pm

I'll try that. However, I dunno if I can burn.

The problems seem to be getting worse. Now, the computer emergency resets seconds after logging in to windows...

(btw, my dad threw out all the system restore discs that came with the computer)

Edit: Windows claims to have discovered a critical error :D

Edit2: wows...

Problem type: Windows stop error

Solution Available? : No

What does this mean? Windows has encountered a problem it cannot recover from and it needs to be restarted

Cause: Unknown

Problem caused by a Device Driver
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Postby Mithrandir » Fri Apr 27, 2007 8:37 pm

Slater wrote:Windows claims to have discovered a critical error :D

For some reason I'm reminded of paying the robber to watch the house...
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Postby Slater » Fri Apr 27, 2007 8:42 pm

Yay! now that I am unable to burn anything, after a month of waiting, Windows support provided me with a download link to my XP pro ISO file!

Ironic, isn't it?
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Postby Kenshin17 » Fri Apr 27, 2007 9:16 pm

ROFL!!!

Microsoft tech support at work again!! And people wonder why I don't like Microsoft...
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Postby Slater » Fri Apr 27, 2007 9:18 pm

oh... uhm...

I can't build the Ultimate Boot CD without my windows disc?
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Postby Mithrandir » Fri Apr 27, 2007 9:45 pm

Sorry... I was assuming you would use someone else's compy to burn that, and use that to make sure you don't have a HW issue.
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Postby Slater » Sat Apr 28, 2007 2:24 am

I used my dad's :D

Reformatting ftw
It's gonna be like the day I first got it in 2004...

only with FlyFF :D

Edit: Great, now it's hanging in the middle of my Format commands... --;

Maybe there IS something buggy with the hardware...
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Postby Saj » Sat Apr 28, 2007 6:56 am

Slater wrote:Maybe there IS something buggy with the hardware...



Best way to test that is hit your num lock or caps lock key when the system hangs. if the light on your keyboard comes on and off, that will mean that the lockup is software based, if the light doesnt come on and off then the lock up is hardware based.

from what youve been saying, the HDD might be the source of the problem. Borrow a drive from some one and boot off it, install windows, and try useing it for a few days to a week. If you dont experience any problems, then you know its the HDD.

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Postby Mithrandir » Sat Apr 28, 2007 9:01 am

Saj wrote:If the light on your keyboard comes on and off, that will mean that the lockup is software based, if the light doesnt come on and off then the lock up is hardware based.


Technically, this tells you if it was software that caused the hang. In the event you have a disk, bus, io, controller that's bad, and the FORMAT program doesn't know how to deal with it, you may very well be experiencing the Software glitch as a symptom of the HW glitch.


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Postby Slater » Sun Apr 29, 2007 10:24 pm

Well, I've ruled out the idea of it being a memory-related issue. Just plugged a brand-new stick in... crashes just like usual.

Bought a new hard drive since mine is old and other boards have suggested that this is probably the problem. New problem; the new HDD is serial and eMachines' T3085 series only supports IDE HDDs. Blast. Sometime this week, I'll be picking up a serial-to-IDE adapter (found them on CompUSA's site... if anyone has any info on how efficiant these are, I'd like to hear)... Seems like they don't make many IDE HDDs anymore, unless you want a 300 USD, half-terabyte drive.

Other potential, but more unlikely, possibilities include... well, pretty much the eMachine motherboard. I hope it isn't that. Doesn't seem to be sound/video card related since Windows XP boot-disk doesn't use any of that (though it still crashes there).

If it is the motherboard, well then I'll just build myself a brand new computer... I'm tired of eMachine's crappy stuff... 3/4 of the eMachines I've owned have died prematurely (though one of them was from a BestBuy technician shorting the harddrive... real profesional, huh?).

Gosh, I hate hardware related issues...
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